Problems when trying to burn a BluRay-disc with menu.

bge wrote on 2/20/2017, 4:30 PM

Hello out there, I hope you can help me now. I have edited a movie using Vegas Pro issue 13 and transferred it to Architect 6. I have created menu with some buttons. I have tested it with the button Preview and everything seamed to be OK. When I move on and ask the system to make a BluRay disc I get an answer saying "Track 1 "Video in Marie-Louise" cannot be recompressed because its bit rate is to low. What does this mean? What have I done wrong and how to solve it? Any help is appreciated. Thank`s in advance!

Bo in Nora Sweden

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Former user wrote on 2/20/2017, 5:14 PM

What template did you use to create the video file for DVD Architect?

bge wrote on 2/21/2017, 5:07 AM

Hi there ... thanks for yur interest. When preparing for rendering I printed the following under Output format:

Main concept MPEG-2 and there: BluRay 1440x1080-50i, 25 Mbps video stream.

Thanks again!

Bo

 

OldSmoke wrote on 2/21/2017, 5:30 AM

How did you create the audio for the video?

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bge wrote on 2/21/2017, 6:11 AM

Hello OldSmoke, when asking for rendering I chose 48 000Hz, 24 bit, Stereo, PCM. Is that choise OK?

Kind regards

Bo

OldSmoke wrote on 2/21/2017, 6:16 AM

No. When you render from Vegas, you should use a BluRay template, it will only generate a video file with no audio. You than render the audio with the AC3 Pro encoder. If both file names only differ by the file extension and are in the same folder, DVDA will see it and combine it. If not, you have to change the audio track for the video file manually in DVDA. This way, DVDA will not recompress the audio and you should have no error message.

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Former user wrote on 2/21/2017, 8:34 AM

OldSmoke, that sounds like what they have done. They rendered to BluRay 1440x1080-50i, 25 Mbps video stream and PCM Audio. Bluray can play back PCM audio so that should not be a problem. BGE, can you download a program called Mediainfo from this post and give us more information on the files you are using in DVDA. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-file-properties--104561/

OldSmoke wrote on 2/21/2017, 8:42 AM

DVDA expects AC3 Pro, anything else will be recompressed as far as I know.

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Former user wrote on 2/21/2017, 8:49 AM

No, DVDA can use PCM with no problem at all, as long as it is not over the max bitrate for the medium.

 

vkmast wrote on 2/21/2017, 8:55 AM

Just to rule out something, try resetting.

bge wrote on 2/22/2017, 4:55 PM

Hello my friends, I have tested to change the Audio settings to AC-3 as recommended by you. It has helped me to move on a bit but now the process adress a messeage (warning) saying that "the Inactive button default colors should be set to None in the file". Where do I find such a button mentioned above, do you think?

Once again: The changed Audio settings seams to have helped me move on a bit, but hopefully you can help me with the last step.

Kind regards

Bo in Nora sweden 

EricLNZ wrote on 2/22/2017, 6:28 PM

dxdy wrote on 2/23/2017, 11:18 AM

This problem occurs with some of the DVDA templates (especially the one with the burgundy stage curtains in the background) for BR only. The same template works fine for DVD.

bge wrote on 2/23/2017, 12:23 PM

Thank`s all of you  who have helped me with advices and comments. Now I have succeded in making a running BluRay disc. The last step for me is to figure out how you can get the Start - button (first button in the menu) to highlight in order to easier find it. The second remaining thing to do is: How do I get the program to return to the top menu after the movie has reach it`s end. It must be something with the button "End Action", isn`t it?

 

Kind regards

Bo in Nora, Sweden

john_dennis wrote on 2/23/2017, 12:43 PM

"How do I get the program to return to the top menu after the movie has reach it`s end. It must be something with the button "End Action", isn`t it?"

With the title of interest selected in Project Overview, select End Action in the Media Properties panel. Select the target that you want from the Destination category.   

Hint: If you would like to test your End Actions, place a chapter mark a few seconds before the end of each title. Then, you can Next(PageDown) through each title quickly in DVDA Preview to see the return to Menu, etc.

 

bge wrote on 2/24/2017, 12:51 PM

Hello again friends out there ...  I have added an audio file as background music but can`t adjust the volume of that background track. I have searched "everywhere" in the manual and Help and all possible options. I assume there must be a possibility to adjust the volume of the background sound.

Thank`s in advance for any help.

 

Kind regards

Bo in Nora

Red Prince wrote on 2/24/2017, 1:14 PM

I have added an audio file as background music but can`t adjust the volume of that background track.

This is how you adjust it:

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john_dennis wrote on 2/24/2017, 1:35 PM

You can't adjust audio volume in DVDA but you can adjust it in Vegas Pro or Sound Forge and render to a new audio file.

Use the Menu Page Properties panel to replace the background audio with the new file.

bge wrote on 2/27/2017, 10:51 AM

Hello again and thank`s for your advices. I adjusted the volume in Gold Wave and now I have an almost complete BluRay disc. Still I think it`s a bit strange that you can`t adjust the volume directly in Architect! Indeed a disadvantage. Now I have moved on and now try to make an DVD from the same movie file. When I start the rendering I discover a Jig-saw edge on all moving objects in the film, in the preview window. I have tested with different Bit rates but in vain. I use What can the reason behind these Jig-Saw edges be?  

Bo

Former user wrote on 2/27/2017, 11:15 AM

What does the final product look like?Does it have the Jig saw edges? That is what is important.

rraud wrote on 2/27/2017, 1:54 PM

If DVD-A had an audio volume control, the file would need to be re-rendered (quality loss). If the audio is a separate file, (the recommended SOP) it's easy to redo just the sound track in Vegas, A PCM file could be adjusted in SF or other audio app w/o any audible quality loss ( then re-encoded to AC-3 for DVD or BU).

bge wrote on 3/4/2017, 5:37 PM

Hi again friends there!

A week ago or so, I got help from you regarding the problems I had trying to burn a BluRay disc with menu. After changing the audiofile to AC-3 Pro I finally got rid of the errors before I pushed the button "Burn". The BluRay discs are now OK. After this success I planed to create the same movie on DVD discs but now many of the previous problems returned.

In Vegas I chose DVD and for video: MPEG-2 DVD Architect PAL Widescreen videoscreen. For Audio I chose AC-3 Pro Stereo. The first warning I got was "Track 1 Video cannot be recompressed because it`s bit rate is too low". The second warning was "The Audio on trac 1 will be recompressed. Because of these two warnings I could not move on and burn my DVD disc. I couldn`t neighter check any burned disc and see if the Jig saw-edges still were there and as they had appeared in the preview window before.

What can the problem be? I assume I should use "Upper field"? Shall I use variable bit rate or constant bit rate?

I used constant bit rate 9800 000 in my attempts. Is it too high? What is a reasonable figure? If I use Variable bit rate, what should Max, average and minimum figures be for DVD?

Thank`s in advace for your help!

Bo

dxdy wrote on 3/4/2017, 6:14 PM

While the maximum bitrate for a DVD is 9800 000, you have to leave room for the audio, too. I like to use 9200 000, although 8800 000 looks just as good. If you want to try variable, set the average to 8800 000, max to 9200 000 and min to 4000 000. (IMHO)

set wrote on 3/4/2017, 6:19 PM

Hi again friends there!

A week ago or so, I got help from you regarding the problems I had trying to burn a BluRay disc with menu. After changing the audiofile to AC-3 Pro I finally got rid of the errors before I pushed the button "Burn". The BluRay discs are now OK. After this success I planed to create the same movie on DVD discs but now many of the previous problems returned.

In Vegas I chose DVD and for video: MPEG-2 DVD Architect PAL Widescreen videoscreen. For Audio I chose AC-3 Pro Stereo. The first warning I got was "Track 1 Video cannot be recompressed because it`s bit rate is too low". The second warning was "The Audio on trac 1 will be recompressed. Because of these two warnings I could not move on and burn my DVD disc. I couldn`t neighter check any burned disc and see if the Jig saw-edges still were there and as they had appeared in the preview window before.

What can the problem be? I assume I should use "Upper field"? Shall I use variable bit rate or constant bit rate?

I used constant bit rate 9800 000 in my attempts. Is it too high? What is a reasonable figure? If I use Variable bit rate, what should Max, average and minimum figures be for DVD?

Thank`s in advace for your help!

Bo

Try reset the DVD Architect to default settings. (Push and hold CTRL+SHIFT while double clicking the DVD Architect application icon. Then you will notice a question window 'Do you want to reset ... to default values? Click Yes)

I was having this issue many years ago... but I couldn't replicate this issue now... If I remember, it was happening after I set the new default settings. I need to go to Properties and adjust the video and audio bitrate settings, set it higher. Happens everytime... and after I reset the DVD Architect to default settings, the problem gone.

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bge wrote on 3/5/2017, 3:25 PM

Hi there, What could the main reason to Jigsaw edges on mowing objects in the movie be? As mentioned above I try to make a DVD with menu. I started with a movie file, imported it into Vegas software and used settings for BluRay (1440 x 1080) PAL and 25i. I finally succeeded to burn a BluRay disc with menu.

Now my intention is to make a "copy" of that movie but designed for DVD and, of cause, with lower resolution.

How do I preceed? What I have done so far is to open up the "BluRay -file" in Vegas and saved it under a new name. I then opened up the project settings and chose PAL 720x576 25i and saved. Now I discover the JIGSAW edges in the Preview window for the first time. What have I done wrong to get these terrible edges which spoil the movie.

These JIG-saw edges then follow me all the way through Architect Pro 6 and the final disc. I assume you could make such a down convert operation from a BluRay quality file to an file for DVD without getting these edges, or?

Thank`s in advance!

Bo