Restriction in trial version of V18?

aboammar wrote on 8/7/2020, 2:20 PM

@studiolynga Can you provide screenshots for what you are getting?

studiolynga wrote on 8/7/2020, 2:37 PM

How do I attach a screenshot to my reply?

vkmast wrote on 8/7/2020, 2:44 PM

Split Screen View button selected? If so, deselect it

Maybe not if the other fx work.

Upload file button

aboammar wrote on 8/7/2020, 3:50 PM

How do I attach a screenshot to my reply?

@studiolynga

pierre-k wrote on 8/7/2020, 4:12 PM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vp18-ai-plugins-unmanaged-exception-0xe0434352--122731/

studiolynga wrote on 8/8/2020, 6:56 AM

Picture 1- I choose the fx

Picture 2- After I click ok, they are gone

I see from the links you provided that I am not alone with this problem.

I guess I have to wait for the next bugfix.

Thanks for your kind help!

Dexcon wrote on 8/8/2020, 7:04 AM

@studiolynga ... make sure that your computer's specs meet Vegas Pro18 minimum specs:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/specifications/#productMenu

I also experienced the same problem with the AI FX not working in either the trial or purchased versions, but then I checked the minimum specs and my computer (a 6 years old Dell XPS i7) didn't have enough cores (and no HT) - VP18 requires 8 cores. Installing VP18 on a 1 year old Dell Inspiron i7 laptop, the AI FX worked just fine on the laptop.

j-v wrote on 8/8/2020, 7:20 AM

I can not get the "colorize" or "style" fx to work in the trial of V18

I have those in VPro 18 but, maybe you named them wrong, with me they have other names
1. Colorization

2. Style Transfer

Did you also tried to drag them from the Video FX pane?

aboammar wrote on 8/8/2020, 9:12 AM

@studiolynga ... make sure that your computer's specs meet Vegas Pro18 minimum specs:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/specifications/#productMenu

I also experienced the same problem with the AI FX not working in either the trial or purchased versions, but then I checked the minimum specs and my computer (a 6 years old Dell XPS i7) didn't have enough cores (and no HT) - VP18 requires 8 cores. Installing VP18 on a 1 year old Dell Inspiron i7 laptop, the AI FX worked just fine on the laptop.

@Dexcon According to the Vegas Pro 18 system requirements, Core i7 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 3.0Ghz and 8 Core minimum is for 4K video, not the AI FX!

How many cores does your i7 Dell Inspiron laptop have?

aboammar wrote on 8/8/2020, 9:18 AM

I can not get the "colorize" or "style" fx to work in the trial of V18

I have those in VPro 18 but, maybe you named them wrong, with me they have other names
1. Colorization

2. Style Transfer

Did you also tried to drag them from the Video FX pane?

@j-v Thanks for the clarification. But on my Vegas Pro 18 Trial, both Colorization and Style Transfer do not show any preset, thus I can not apply them! Any idea why?

studiolynga wrote on 8/8/2020, 9:39 AM

I have those in VPro 18 but, maybe you named them wrong, with me they have other names
1. Colorization

2. Style Transfer

Did you also tried to drag them from the Video FX pane?

Yes, I was a bit lazy I meant "Colorization" and "Style Transfer", sorry if I was a bit confusing.

@studiolynga ... make sure that your computer's specs meet Vegas Pro18 minimum specs:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/specifications/#productMenu

I also experienced the same problem with the AI FX not working in either the trial or purchased versions, but then I checked the minimum specs and my computer (a 6 years old Dell XPS i7) didn't have enough cores (and no HT) - VP18 requires 8 cores. Installing VP18 on a 1 year old Dell Inspiron i7 laptop, the AI FX worked just fine on the laptop.

My processor has only 6 cores but I can edit 4K without problems.

(Intel i7, GeoForce1070, 64 Ram)

@j-v Thanks for the clarification. But on my Vegas Pro 18 Trial, both Colorization and Style Transfer do not show any preset, thus I can not apply them! Any idea why?

I have the same problem, there are no presets showing and if I drag the "Colorization or Style transfer-fx to the timeline Vegas crashes.

vkmast wrote on 8/8/2020, 9:53 AM

@studiolynga try (re)installing using the link here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-18-pro-demo--122727/#ca763933

j-v wrote on 8/8/2020, 9:55 AM

@aboammar
I have seen the same.
Then I uninstaled all I had of Deep Learning Models and after a restart downloaded this file :VEGAS_Deep_Learning_Models_INT_200729_10-19_18_0_0_0 from my Magix account and after installing that one a saw them.

studiolynga wrote on 8/8/2020, 10:50 AM

@studiolynga try (re)installing using the link here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-18-pro-demo--122727/#ca763933

Thanks!

I will try this tomorrow.

aboammar wrote on 8/8/2020, 3:36 PM

@aboammar
I have seen the same.
Then I uninstaled all I had of Deep Learning Models and after a restart downloaded this file :VEGAS_Deep_Learning_Models_INT_200729_10-19_18_0_0_0 from my Magix account and after installing that one a saw them.

@j-v Thanks for the tip. Will give it a try.

Dexcon wrote on 8/8/2020, 6:35 PM

@aboammar

How many cores does your i7 Dell Inspiron laptop have?

4 cores, but HT gives it 8 threads.

I fully understand that the specs are re 4K. In fact, no specific specs are given for AI. But it does seem significant to me that 'colorization' and 'style transfer' do not work (or even load onto the Video Event FX window) on my 4 core (a la 4 thread) desktop whereas those FX do work as expected on my 4 core/8 thread laptop.

BTW, I can edit 4K quite happily on the 4 core desktop without needing proxies.

studiolynga wrote on 8/9/2020, 8:36 AM

@studiolynga try (re)installing using the link here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-18-pro-demo--122727/#ca763933

Thanks!

I will try this tomorrow.

I have now tried that, removed the old file restarted and downloaded the new one but it still doesn't work.

Other fx work without problems.

I checked my processor and it has 6 cores and 12 threads (i7-4930K@3.40GHZ) maybe it is to weak for AI-fx?

I have Geforce GTX-1070 and 64 RAM,but that might not help either?

Dexcon wrote on 8/9/2020, 8:40 AM

It would be very helpful if Vegas Creative Software would publish the minimum specs for AI.

studiolynga wrote on 8/9/2020, 9:15 AM

It would be very helpful if Vegas Creative Software would publish the minimum specs for AI.

Yes, that would be helpful indeed!

I opened a 4K project in V18-trial, it was created in V17 (without proxies) and the playback was ultra-smooth.

It played much better than the same project in V17.

I viewed it in "best/full" mode, not a single glitch or stutter even in long crossfades or when I applied color grading.

aboammar wrote on 8/9/2020, 5:13 PM

@aboammar

How many cores does your i7 Dell Inspiron laptop have?

4 cores, but HT gives it 8 threads.

I fully understand that the specs are re 4K. In fact, no specific specs are given for AI. But it does seem significant to me that 'colorization' and 'style transfer' do not work (or even load onto the Video Event FX window) on my 4 core (a la 4 thread) desktop whereas those FX do work as expected on my 4 core/8 thread laptop.

BTW, I can edit 4K quite happily on the 4 core desktop without needing proxies.

@Dexcon Well, my Xeon CPU also has 4 cores and 8 logical processors, yet AI FX is not working! This indicates that Vegas Pro AI FX does not require higher specs than the minimum required to run Vegas Pro which is 4 Core.

Even Magix specify 8 Cores as the minimum for 4K! So I really don't understand how you can edit 4K on a 4 Core system without needing proxies!!! How is that even possible? What codecs are you using?

aboammar wrote on 8/9/2020, 5:18 PM

@studiolynga try (re)installing using the link here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-18-pro-demo--122727/#ca763933

Thanks!

I will try this tomorrow.

I have now tried that, removed the old file restarted and downloaded the new one but it still doesn't work.

Other fx work without problems.

I checked my processor and it has 6 cores and 12 threads (i7-4930K@3.40GHZ) maybe it is to weak for AI-fx?

I have Geforce GTX-1070 and 64 RAM,but that might not help either?

@studiolynga AI FX is running on 4 Core systems, so your system is more than powerful to run the AI effects. The problems is from Vegas Pro!

aboammar wrote on 8/9/2020, 5:20 PM

It would be very helpful if Vegas Creative Software would publish the minimum specs for AI.

@Dexcon Well since they did not specify it, it obviously means that it does not require more than the minimum requirements to run Vegas Pro 18.

aboammar wrote on 8/9/2020, 5:27 PM

It would be very helpful if Vegas Creative Software would publish the minimum specs for AI.

Yes, that would be helpful indeed!

I opened a 4K project in V18-trial, it was created in V17 (without proxies) and the playback was ultra-smooth.

It played much better than the same project in V17.

I viewed it in "best/full" mode, not a single glitch or stutter even in long crossfades or when I applied color grading.

@studiolynga I tried many codecs of 4K footages and never get more than 20fps when my preview set to Good/Auto, so I am wondering what kind of codec are you using to get that real time performance? Your 6 Core system is below the minimum requirements for 4K, according to Magix, so I am wondering!!

Dexcon wrote on 8/9/2020, 11:33 PM

@aboammar

What codecs are you using?

MP4 shot on a Sony AX100.

EDIT: I've double-checked the specs for the desktop's processor, and contrary to my earlier understanding, the processor (i7-4770) does have HT and thus the 4 cores means 8 threads. So that's good news I think. I guess that explains a few things but further raises the question about why AI works on my laptop but not the desktop - and the same .exe file was used with each install. Curiouser and curiouser!

Surely there must be something that AI needs that is unique to AI. If that is the case, then it really should be shown in Specifications as a minimum spec expressly for AI.

BTW, the desktop's GPU is an AMD RX470 with 4GB memory so meets VP min specs as far as I can tell. System RAM is 32GB.