well they STILL haven't incorporated voice command!!!

i want to be able to sit back and simply command vegas to do everything, eg, play, cut, trim 3 frames dissolve to track 4, bring up audio on track 7, etc., etc.,

meanwhile am about to have a bit more of a play with 15...

Medium works OK for me, even with my 73 year old eyes. But you do need a decent size monitor but also I have to use my computer medium distance glasses for all IT work these days.

well they STILL haven't incorporated voice command!!!

i want to be able to sit back and simply command vegas to do everything, eg, play, cut, trim 3 frames dissolve to track 4, bring up audio on track 7, etc., etc.,

meanwhile am about to have a bit more of a play with 15...

I went through the voice command baloney years ago and got very tired of cussing out the computer and found it was about 10 times slower than using the mouse and shuttle pro.

JJK

I like the new GUI. The only thing I can quibble with is that that event names on the events on the timeline are white against a mostly light color - it would be much better if there was a contrasting difference that would make the event names stand out.

I like the new GUI. The only thing I can quibble with is that that event names on the events on the timeline are white against a mostly light color - it would be much better if there was a contrasting difference that would make the event names stand out.

Yes, agreed,the combination of White and Pastels don't offer much contrast, standout clarity to already small Text:

Hi,

New here. I did write a post on the same subject and using almost the same words on March 25th 2018 ''Changing the Interface colors - MSP 15''. It's today that I took the time to look at the posts that I saw this one with a terrific title ''I'm done with V. 15'', me too in fact! I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one complaining on that major design glitch! No doubt about it, it's a major GLITCH!

I saw how Vegas pro 15's interface works. They have three choices and the lighter one looks a lot like the one used in V. 13 either for the interface as for the Menus. I'm not passing judgement on those of you who are more comfortable working with a dark version, some of us can prefer a ''lighter shade of pale'' (had to get it in...hahaha). And why not?

So I'm still working with Version 13. Yep, should have tried V. 15 before buying it...that's my problem. I do hope they correct this soon, either in a new version or in a build!!!???

I wonder sometimes how the designers work? I imagine the guy sitting in front of his screen or screens and identifying the lighter shade and telling to himself...wow perfect shade...hum! compared to what?

Have a nice day

Michel

This is an excerpt from the "Light" interface:

Is anyone actually using this and think it's OK?

It seems to me that "Light" is a bit of a misnomer for this version, and that the black text would be much better as white or near-white like it is in the "Medium" and "Dark" versions.

+1. Recently also discussed and depicted here.

Besides pale text in the "Light" version, I suggest the following name changes for VP16. These make more sense to me:

• "White" change to "Light"
• "Light" change to "Medium"
• "Medium" change to "Medium-Dark"
• "Dark" keep as "Dark"

Besides pale text in the "Light" version, I suggest the following name changes for VP16. These make more sense to me:

• "White" change to "Light"
• "Light" change to "Medium"
• "Medium" change to "Medium-Dark"
• "Dark" keep as "Dark"

Hi Nick,

Great suggestion...for Pro 16 I presume, they'll never add so many options to MS. I wouldn't mind a change to White or Medium (like V. 13) onto MS 16...gotta be patient now.

Have a great day

Michel

Besides pale text in the "Light" version, I suggest the following name changes for VP16. These make more sense to me:

• "White" change to "Light"
• "Light" change to "Medium"
• "Medium" change to "Medium-Dark"
• "Dark" keep as "Dark"

Hi Nick,

My eyes were "hooked'' on the color changes (shades) you were proposing in your text without noticing that you were actually talking about VPro 16...sorry about that.

Michel

This is an excerpt from the "Light" interface:

Is anyone actually using this and think it's OK?

It seems to me that "Light" is a bit of a misnomer for this version, and that the black text would be much better as white or near-white like it is in the "Medium" and "Dark" versions.

I will admit, I think the contrast in the menus is not very good for this color scheme. We do have some larger fish to fry as far as problems are concerned, but I will definitely enter this in our issues backlog and see if we can improve this specific color scheme a bit in the future, especially since this scheme is so important for many Movie Studio users.

This specific color scheme was created to be very close to what we had in VEGAS prior to version 15 (and VMS prior to version 14), but the menu background is definitely darker in comparison.

Besides pale text in the "Light" version, I suggest the following name changes for VP16. These make more sense to me:

• "White" change to "Light"
• "Light" change to "Medium"
• "Medium" change to "Medium-Dark"
• "Dark" keep as "Dark"

Believe it or not, before VP15 shipped, we actually did have a number of discussions about the color schemes and how dark or light each one should be. A number of strong opinions existed, and in hindsight, the overall difference between Dark, Medium and Light was probably not drastic enough for many of our users to care to change to them...especially the medium and light schemes. We shipped with what we had with hopes of getting feedback like this from our users so that we could fine-tune the schemes in the future...so you can expect some changes to be made in the next release. (I do not think we will do much with this in any updates to VP15.)

Ultimately, we would love to provide sliders that would update the brightness in real-time so that you could get the interface just as each user would want it. Sadly, that work would be a pretty significant change to the GUI that could take a lot of time away from implementing some critical features in VEGAS that we think our users would find much more beneficial (and are desperately needed). Not to say it will not happen in the future, but it is probably going to be a while before we would consider doing something like that.

I like the new GUI. The only thing I can quibble with is that that event names on the events on the timeline are white against a mostly light color - it would be much better if there was a contrasting difference that would make the event names stand out.

While the text color is not adjustable, for VEGAS and Movie Studio Platinum, you have the ability to change the color scheme of the track/event headers in the Preferences under the Display tab. You should be able to darken the track headers (same color is used for the event headers) to colors that will allow the event names to stand out a bit more. The other option (in VP15) is to turn off of the event headers which will show the event name in black text with a light background.

I like the new GUI. The only thing I can quibble with is that that event names on the events on the timeline are white against a mostly light color - it would be much better if there was a contrasting difference that would make the event names stand out.

While the text color is not adjustable, for VEGAS and Movie Studio Platinum, you have the ability to change the color scheme of the track/event headers in the Preferences under the Display tab. You should be able to darken the track headers (same color is used for the event headers) to colors that will allow the event names to stand out a bit more. The other option (in VP15) is to turn off of the event headers which will show the event name in black text with a light background.

Hi Derek,

I bought the MSP 14 package that included V. 15 when it came out at the end of February 2018. I never installed V. 14 nor would I ever install it because it is way to dark for me. So I bought that package to get V. 15 and presuming the color scheme would be comfortable to work with. Naturally it wasn't!! What simply gets me is that no one from the design dpt. says how he or she felt working with the colors offered by V. 15. This is where the knitty gritty is.

How can someone from Magix say ''WOW what a great interface, I'm sure all our actual and future customers will greatly enjoy this new environment'' How can anyone see what is WRITTEN in Menus without approaching to their screens? It's ''unreadable''...I just don't get it!

I presume you have Beta versions that are tested before hitting the stores and our PC's...you are seriously telling me that a majority of testers approved these color schemes. Unbelievable!

I can appreciate that there will be some corrections made due to the overwhelming amount of negative comments on that subject...just hope those corrections come out before me being fed up of working with Version 13!!

Michel Plante

Michel, I think you've made your point. Several times.

Maybe the designers are just not blind... I have never had an issue reading anything in Vegas. There are multiple color schemes to choose from as well, including making it look like it used to. They've already acknowledged that some changes could and will be made, so I'd leave it at that.

Having purchased VEGAS Pro 15 Edit (Build 321) on the 26th March and fiddling around with the UI colour scheme options (which I greatly welcome), I personally see no problem with them. For what it’s worth, I’m using a 4K monitor (LG 27UD88-W to be precise) scaled to 125% and I have no issues seeing anything or have anything to complain about regarding the readability of text (colour-wise) in any of the four (4) colour scheme options. But this is obviously a subjective matter and so some people are going to have problems with it.

It’s just an unfortunate and true fact that absolutely no software is perfect. Even Adobe’s software has issues that I’ve read up on. You can’t completely blame Magix for the issues that have plagued VEGAS Pro for many years, and even if you blame Sony I’d like to believe that they did the best job they could with developing VEGAS Pro from the initial audio editing software that it was to the full-fledged NLE it is today.

What I’d say to those that complain so much about it is that you try building a complete NLE from scratch and see how many bugs you come across. I can imagine it’d be a lot. So whilst VEGAS Pro might have various things you don’t like about it, you should cut the developers some slack because I believe they’ve done the best job they could with the software.

I know that I’ll probably come across some annoying and frustrating issues myself with VEGAS Pro, but I’m not going jump on this forum and chuck a wobbly about it because first and foremost it’d be completely immature to do so, and secondly it’s just not appropriate to do so.

@MH7, I have the LG 27UD68 UHD 4K monitor. Windows is at 125% too like yours. I use the dark theme in VP15 with no problems seeing the text or icons. For "me" everything is clearly visible. But it was clearly visible with VP14 too in it's light color scheme. Certain things I learn to adjust to. Everyone has their personal preferences, I'm just easy to please for the most part. I've used several different editors over the years, and every one, from consumer/prosumer to pro have crashed at some point.. And they all have bugs. All of them. Can someone live with them? Some are deal breakers, others, we work around them. I'm basically new with VP, but finished a short (5min) 4K project with no fuss and was amazed and impressed by the speed (with proxies) in which I was able to edit.

Maybe as I extend my knowledge with VP, and do "more", things will crop up. When they do, I'll post what happened with repo steps.

@MH7, I have the LG 27UD68 UHD 4K monitor. Windows is at 125% too like yours.

Ah, okay, nice!

My mum has that exact same one with her PC and I have Windows 10 scaled to 200% (looks like 1920 x 1080) because she doesn’t have the best vision. But scaling seems to work pretty well for her, and the clarity you get with a 4K monitor is most noticeable at 200% scaling. Everything is just extremely clear. Being used to high DPI displays these days it definitely makes it easy for your eyes.

I have my monitor scaled to that 125% because I find gives you a good balance of useable screen realestate and readability. I’ve figured out that @ 125% on a 4K monitor you’re getting the equivalent of a 3200 x 1800 desktop resolution, which is quite nice.

I use the dark theme in VP15 with no problems seeing the text or icons. For "me" everything is clearly visible. But it was clearly visible with VP14 too in it's light color scheme.

Well, I’m happy for you mate. I’m glad you have no problems with it like myself.

Certain things I learn to adjust to.

Exactly! I see no point in anyone coming on here and chucking a tantrum about things they don’t like or have problems with, as I said in my novel-of-a-post. Just deal with it and move on.

Everyone has their personal preferences, I'm just easy to please for the most part.

That they do and so am I. So much so that’d I’d probably frustrate some people here (haha).

I've used several different editors over the years, and every one, from consumer/prosumer to pro have crashed at some point.. And they all have bugs. All of them. Can someone live with them? Some are deal breakers, others, we work around them.

Well, you’ve got the right attitude mate. Certainly nice to see. Truth be told, I actually used Corel VideoStudio before I tried VEGAS Pro. It had it’s issues but I dealt with them, usually by throwing things around the room and screaming in frustration, but apart from that I was fine (joking XD).

However, I never actually realised how limiting VideoStudio was until I taught myself how to use VEGAS Pro (through the various trials and trails of new builds). It was a night and day difference.

I'm basically new with VP, but finished a short (5min) 4K project with no fuss and was amazed and impressed by the speed (with proxies) in which I was able to edit.

Ah nice! Glad it went smoothly for you. I’m currently in the process of creating a YouTube intro myself. And with knowing the software as well as I do it does make it easier. On that note, though, if there’s anything you need help with just post me a message and I’ll see what I can do. Of course, I know we have this great community here, but the offers there if you need or want it.

Maybe as I extend my knowledge with VP, and do "more", things will crop up. When they do, I'll post what happened with repo steps.

Sounds like a plan! 👍🏻

@MH7, thanks for the kind offer to help. Many here have helped me either by reading through the posts or directly. You might be sorry you offered to help!

I started editing way back with the Amiga Video Toaster (I had several Amiga's tasked to different work loads.. all genlocked and networked). It was a blast back then, but progress forced me to move to the PC back with Win98 and DPS Editbay. When I left video editing for profit (got tired of hearing Uncle Joe can now do it for less) back with Avid Liquid, I went consumer editing because my needs and demands changed.

You'll laugh knowing that I do have VideoStudio Pro 2018 on my computer. I personally do not use it, but beta for Corel. My main editing program has been Pinnacle from Avid Studio to PS21Ultimate today. After editing with overlays being just that, and not placed under the main video (I just can't think upside down for some reason), I never really bothered (but did own and try) other consumer editors. I ignored Vegas because of the really ugly looking interface to "me".

I bought VP14 Edit with a Humble Bundle of Magix software for $21. I thought for that price, I'll give it a shot. Wow, was I impressed as I fumbled around with it! Impressed so much that I upgraded to VP15 Suite, where I am now.

While others are "done", I'm just getting started!

Michel, I think you've made your point. Several times.

I made a comment following a post, truly am sorry, never thought there was a limit!