Upgrade Vegas Pro Edit 21 to Vegas Pro Suite

Ian_S wrote on 11/25/2023, 1:45 PM

Hi. I'm considering upgrading to Vegas Pro Suite, so I can check out the Mocha Vegas features. I currently have a licence for Vegas Pro 21 Edit. I can't find anything on the Magix site that refers to upgrading within the same version, only from earlier versions. Is there a route that's cheaper than the £199 I'm currently being presented? Before anyone asks why I didn't get the Suite version in the first place, I have this licence through work and I am looking to upgrade it at my own expense. Thanks for any advice.

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

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vkmast wrote on 11/25/2023, 2:50 PM

@Ian_S please try emailing shop@magix.net and tell them that you want to cancel the VP Edit 21 and upgrade to VP Suite 21.

You probably need to include the details of the "work " license you have.

Ian_S wrote on 11/25/2023, 3:14 PM

Thanks for the advice. Yes, hopefully they will be able to sort something. The licence I have was supplied to me by my client (NewBlueFX) to create tutorials for them, although it is registered to me personally. I was hoping it was something I could easily do online. Thanks again.

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

Ian_S wrote on 11/25/2023, 3:40 PM

Well I emailed them and got a reply within ten minutes with a ticket number (in the email subject) but the email was empty! I guess it was an automated response and I assume there is somewhere I can enter my ticket number to check progress, but i can't find it on the Magix website! Any advice welcomed!

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

vkmast wrote on 11/25/2023, 4:16 PM

@Ian_S in my experience you get first the automatic response with the ticket number. The included letter states last that "Your email will soon be answered by one of our employees".(last time in German). The (Customer support) answer usually has taken 1 or 2 working days.

Ian_S wrote on 11/25/2023, 5:16 PM

Thanks again :-)

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

Ian_S wrote on 11/28/2023, 3:30 AM

I heard back from Magix and unfortunately (strangely?) there is no upgrade path from VP Edit to VP Suite. It seems the only way to do this is to buy a new copy of VP Suite and request a refund for VP Edit - which of course will go to my client and not to me! It's all a bit messy and I don't want the awkward situation of having to ask the client to refund me!

As I only wanted to evaluate Mocha within Vegas it's cheaper (and less awkward) for me to subscribe to it directly through Boris for a month for approximately £23.

I appreciate your time helping me with this @vkmast

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

vkmast wrote on 11/28/2023, 4:23 AM

Thanks @Ian_S. Good that you found a practical solution 🙂.

RogerS wrote on 11/28/2023, 11:53 PM

I have only seen upgrades between versions of VEGAS, not between packages of a single version. Would be good to have that option.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (256GB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Ian_S wrote on 11/29/2023, 5:36 AM

Would be good to have that option.

Agreed :-)

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

Gid wrote on 11/29/2023, 5:51 AM



As I only wanted to evaluate Mocha within Vegas it's cheaper (and less awkward) for me to for a month for approximately £23.

@Ian_S Hi, is that Mocha Pro you 'subscribe to it directly through Boris'? Mocha Pro works a bit differently (is integrated differently / applied differently) to Vegas Mocha .

Vegas Pro 21 
Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, 

I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Ian_S wrote on 11/29/2023, 5:56 AM

Thanks Gid, yes I've just discovered that! I get the impression that it's very similar in terms of basic functionality and features, though?

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

Dexcon wrote on 11/29/2023, 6:48 AM

I get the impression that it's very similar in terms of basic functionality and features ...

Mocha Vegas is rather similar to Mocha HitFilm and Mocha access in BCC plugins - the basic function is planar tracking which is without doubt great. But Mocha Pro is that but way more including its excellent Remove module as well as many more features/module that aren't available in Mocha Vegas etc.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

Gid wrote on 11/29/2023, 7:12 AM

@Ian_S 👍 Yes the basics of tracking in Mocha UI are the same @Dexcon  "But Mocha Pro is that but way more" - agreed,

From what I've seen of Vegas Mocha there's a few steps of transferring the tracking data to Vegas, there's no need for that with Mocha Pro, just add your insert as an 'Insert' on the layer in Mocha & you can switch backwards & forwards from the Mocha UI to Vegas to make adjustments,

I don't have Vegas Mocha because I have Mocha Pro plugin+standalone, so i screen captured an image from one of Boris's vids, if you look at the options at the bottom you can see a big difference, also there's an option or two extra at the top. I'm prob preaching to the choir tho as you have Mocha Pro😉😁 I don't think you'll regret your choice.

.

Vegas Pro 21 
Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, 

I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Ian_S wrote on 11/29/2023, 7:18 AM

Thanks again! I'm on a shoot again today but I'll check that out this evening.
I don't actually have Mocha Pro yet, but I'm going to subscribe for a month and see how I get on with it. I don't think I will ever be a power user, but it's nice to have it up my sleeve, and with the Boris sub I can rent it for a month on the few occasions I may need it.
Cheers!

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!

Gid wrote on 11/29/2023, 7:27 AM

@Ian_S 👍 I love Mocha Pro, I use it quite often just to make simple masks, the Mocha UI is much easier to use then the Bezier mask in Vegas, & if you find Mocha is slowing down the timeline you can export a B/W mask from Mocha, turn off Mocha in the Vegas FX window, then use that B/W mask on the timeline (Multiply mask - Mask Generator), If you want to adjust the mask just open Mocha again - adjust - export mask again, it's a bit of a faff but Vegas will play at full fps.

Last changed by Gid on 11/29/2023, 7:27 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Vegas Pro 21 
Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, 

I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Gid wrote on 11/29/2023, 8:30 AM

@Ian_S Here I made a quick vid about the B/W mask for you to watch in your down-time,

Only FHD 1920x1080 but Mocha slows the timeline, with a B/W mask it plays full fps. This is no good if you're tracking & applying an insert but for simple masking it's just an option to keep in mind if you struggle to get good performance in Vegas.

I wonder if or suspect Vegas Mocha avoids this slowdown because it uses transferred data & it's own in built Vegas masking? Can Vegas Mocha be turned off once the tracking data is transferred to Vegas?

I also played with the stabilize button in Mocha that stops the tracking spline jumping around, this makes checking the spline easier.

 

Vegas Pro 21 
Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, 

I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Ian_S wrote on 11/29/2023, 8:58 AM

Very kind! Look forward to checking that out.

 

System specs (as of 07/1/2021):

Edition    Windows 10 Home
Version    20H2
Installed on    ‎12/‎08/‎2020
OS build    19042.1052
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Vegas Pro 21 (full time professional user since Sonic Foundry Vegas 3). Boris Continuum, Red Giant Magic Bullet Suite, Universe Suite, everything from NewBlueFX (I produce their tutorials), Neat Video, Vegasaur, PluralEyes.

Also a heavy user of After Effects, Cinema4D and other video/animation/motion graphic production tools.

About to take a long hard look at Resolve, to see if it can handle my mixed format timelines without crashing. It's a shame, as I adore the Vegas workflow - but it falls over way too frequently for me to trust it. After 20+ years I've kinda had enough!

Device name    i9
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900X CPU @ 3.70GHz   3.70 GHz
Installed RAM    64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Device ID    77F498C3-7EBE-479E-AE21-AAFC8AC96B26
Product ID    00325-81833-14367-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Pen and touch support with 10 touch points
GPU 2 x Nvidia 2070 Super, NVLink, driver 471.11 released 06/23/2021

Most frequently used cameras include Panasonic G9, GH4, GH5 (into an Atomos Shogun Flame), GoPro Hero Black 5 and 6, Mavic Air 2 drone. A typical Vegas Pro timeline could include footage from any or all of the above, png/tiff seqeunces from Cinema 4D/After Effects (often with alpha channels), stills, voiceovers - a real mixed bag!