VEGAS 19 stops responding in the middle of editing.

r_ad wrote on 6/23/2023, 12:39 PM

Almost every time I've ever used VEGAS to edit a video, the program just stops responding in the middle of my editing. No clue why, does anyone know what's up? Thank you.

By the way, my specs are:

GTX 1060 6gb

Ryzen 5 2600

16gb ddr4

500GB SSD

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jetdv wrote on 6/23/2023, 1:40 PM

Any error messages (with pressing "Show problem details"?

Build of VEGAS Pro 19?

Types of footage?

What you are doing at the time?

Video card(s) and driver(s)?

etc...

r_ad wrote on 6/23/2023, 5:22 PM

This is what happens. What do you mean by "build" of VEGAS, I'm a bit new to this. Just gaming videos, primarily Minecraft recorded at 120 or 240 fps, sometimes just 60 fps. Always 1080p. It happens out of nowhere, nothing specific going down. I have a GTX 1060 6gb Founders Edition with the latest "game ready" drivers.

vkmast wrote on 6/23/2023, 5:42 PM

Regarding "build" (an update of a version) please see this Support document.

Btw, please use the correct branding of the software to avoid confusion.

@r_ad

Branding corrected ("Sony" removed from the topic title.

r_ad wrote on 6/23/2023, 6:07 PM

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, I am talking about VEGAS Pro 19.0 (build 651). Thank you for explaining.

Last changed by r_ad on 6/23/2023, 6:07 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

Vegas Pro Edit 19 (build 651)
Windows 10 Version 22H2
NVIDA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor 3.40 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
500GB SSD

mark-y wrote on 6/23/2023, 6:37 PM

Try updating your graphics driver to the latest Studio version from the Vegas Help menu.

RogerS wrote on 6/23/2023, 9:02 PM

I've also seen this though it seems connected to the media I'm using. Screen captures cause the most problems.

Can you share MediaInfo for the main types of media you use? Here's how to share it: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

For troublesome types of footage I use the free ShutterEncoder to convert it using h264 of ProRes and then replace it in VEGAS. You can batch convert many files at once if you want.

Some discussion of optimizing OBS settings in the comments here.

r_ad wrote on 6/23/2023, 10:09 PM

Try updating your graphics driver to the latest Studio version from the Vegas Help menu.


mark-y wrote on 6/23/2023, 10:14 PM

Ok get it from Nvidia. It is important to install the Studio driver version for Vegas stability. Post back if more problems.

r_ad wrote on 6/23/2023, 10:19 PM

I've also seen this though it seems connected to the media I'm using. Screen captures cause the most problems.

Can you share MediaInfo for the main types of media you use? Here's how to share it: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

For troublesome types of footage I use the free ShutterEncoder to convert it using h264 of ProRes and then replace it in VEGAS. You can batch convert many files at once if you want.

Some discussion of optimizing OBS settings in the comments here.

This might be silly of me but I would like to refrain from downloading extra programs at the moment. Is there any sort of details I can provide you without using these programs? I can share OBS settings if that holds any sort of value in this.

RogerS wrote on 6/23/2023, 11:00 PM

If you have a media player like MPC open the media and click on properties as MediaInfo is embedded in it.

Please do share OBS settings (and read the comments in the thread for optimal settings).

You can also try a workaround using VEGAS. Make a new project with only the screencapture. Render the file as Apple ProRes422 or MagixAVC with mainconcept. (If that render fails you really should just use ShutterEncoder, Handbrake or another similar free utility that man experienced editors use). Go back to your original project and replace the media with the new file. See if problems persist.

r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 9:50 AM

Ok get it from Nvidia. It is important to install the Studio driver version for Vegas stability. Post back if more problems.

Do you mean like the Nvidia GeForce Experience driver program thing?

r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 9:51 AM

Ok get it from Nvidia. It is important to install the Studio driver version for Vegas stability. Post back if more problems.

Oh, shoot you might be on to something LOL.

r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 10:01 AM

If you have a media player like MPC open the media and click on properties as MediaInfo is embedded in it.

Please do share OBS settings (and read the comments in the thread for optimal settings).

You can also try a workaround using VEGAS. Make a new project with only the screencapture. Render the file as Apple ProRes422 or MagixAVC with mainconcept. (If that render fails you really should just use ShutterEncoder, Handbrake or another similar free utility that man experienced editors use). Go back to your original project and replace the media with the new file. See if problems persist.

I don't have MPC, The only media-type programs that I have are just what Windows comes with. Here are my OBS settings:

r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 10:10 AM

So, I installed the Nvidia Studio drivers and I'm now going to continue making videos as normal to see if VEGAS Pro 19.0 continues to freeze. If it does I'll be back here to try the next solution. And thank you, guys, so far for your willingness to help, and for giving me clear and swift responses.

r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 4:32 PM

Ok so a minute ago I was editing a video as per usual and VEGAS Pro froze again and stopped responding. It happened after I split the timeline of the excess clip of text project media.

Former user wrote on 6/24/2023, 5:00 PM

I've also seen this though it seems connected to the media I'm using. Screen captures cause the most problems.

Can you share MediaInfo for the main types of media you use? Here's how to share it: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

For troublesome types of footage I use the free ShutterEncoder to convert it using h264 of ProRes and then replace it in VEGAS. You can batch convert many files at once if you want.

Some discussion of optimizing OBS settings in the comments here.

This might be silly of me but I would like to refrain from downloading extra programs at the moment. Is there any sort of details I can provide you without using these programs? I can share OBS settings if that holds any sort of value in this.

@r_ad Hi, sorry to jump in but MediaInfo really is a useful app, not just for sharing info on forums like this but also for your own education, , download it, it's free, it's a tiny program & a fast download with no added adverts or any of that rubbish. https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

After downloading, right click on the media file in your Windows folder, open MediaInfo, choose Text from the options at the top, Copy & paste the information in a new comment on here 👍

Like this

r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 9:37 PM

I've also seen this though it seems connected to the media I'm using. Screen captures cause the most problems.

Can you share MediaInfo for the main types of media you use? Here's how to share it: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

For troublesome types of footage I use the free ShutterEncoder to convert it using h264 of ProRes and then replace it in VEGAS. You can batch convert many files at once if you want.

Some discussion of optimizing OBS settings in the comments here.

This might be silly of me but I would like to refrain from downloading extra programs at the moment. Is there any sort of details I can provide you without using these programs? I can share OBS settings if that holds any sort of value in this.

@r_ad Hi, sorry to jump in but MediaInfo really is a useful app, not just for sharing info on forums like this but also for your own education, , download it, it's free, it's a tiny program & a fast download with no added adverts or any of that rubbish. https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

After downloading, right click on the media file in your Windows folder, open MediaInfo, choose Text from the options at the top, Copy & paste the information in a new comment on here 👍

Like this

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r_ad wrote on 6/24/2023, 9:38 PM

I usually record in 240 FPS but I went down to 120 recently because of rendering lag. Just until I get a beefier PC.

RogerS wrote on 6/24/2023, 10:24 PM

For OBS change keyframe interval from 0 to 1 as the thread I linked to talked about.

Other than that I'd re-encode your current file with a third-party tool or re-render as I suggested for use in VEGAS.

r_ad wrote on 6/25/2023, 1:31 PM

For OBS change keyframe interval from 0 to 1 as the thread I linked to talked about.

Other than that I'd re-encode your current file with a third-party tool or re-render as I suggested for use in VEGAS.

Ok, I changed it to 1. Also, what would I re-encode the file type to and what third-party tool do you think I should use, like what's most popular. And what do you mean by re-render?

r_ad wrote on 6/25/2023, 1:33 PM

I just looked it up and saw some stuff about changing the interval to 2 which also happens the be the interval I use for streaming. Should I change it to 2 then?

RogerS wrote on 6/26/2023, 12:17 AM

1 means create a keyframe after every second of footage. In this case that's 120 frames which is a lot.
I'd do 1 instead of blindly copying other people using different editing software. 2 would be 240 frames.
(0 is automatic so even greater number of frames).

For re-encodes I already explained this.

For troublesome types of footage I use the free ShutterEncoder to convert it using h264 or ProRes and then replace it in VEGAS. You can batch convert many files at once if you want.

Or re-render through VEGAS (don't really recommend as you are having problems with VEGAS and these files):

You can also try a workaround using VEGAS. Make a new project with only the screencapture. Render the file as Apple ProRes422 or MagixAVC with mainconcept.

relaxvideo wrote on 6/26/2023, 12:25 AM

Forget everything about recode and studio driver, etc. I face the same issue since months and none of these suggestions helped. I mainly use original Sony camera files, other times DJI Osmo files. V19 decoding is buggy in my experience. Yes, any other app runs fine on my PC without freezing. In my family we have two total different system (intel-amd), on both we see the issue.

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#2 i7-2600, 32GB, Nvidia 1660Ti, SSD for system, M2-SSD for work, 2x4TB hdd, LG 3D monitor +3DTV +3D projectors

Win10 x64, Vegas22 latest

RogerS wrote on 6/26/2023, 12:50 AM

That's not helpful advice. Camera files and screen captures are very different types of files and there are OBS settings that actually work very well in VEGAS (and others that don't). This isn't theoretical, it's from experience.