Marco. wrote on 11/2/2012, 4:57 PM
In Vegas Pro rendering Blu-ray compliant video never included audio but needed a separate audio render process. Can't see what's different in the latest build.
Express wrote on 11/2/2012, 4:58 PM
What specific output are you creating?
I rendered 10min and 50min m2t output files a couple of hours ago with audio (on build 394).
Edit: By default many blu-ray templates do not 'include audio', but you can set it to do so.
cal79 wrote on 11/2/2012, 6:09 PM
I had to roll back to version 367 to finish my project.. I normally customize my templates to include the audio stream on all renders.. I do this all the time.. but this latest update won't let me.. it's happening on m2t and mp4 templates.. the selection for audio is grayed out..

Just to clarify rolling back to the previous build has allowed me to include the audio stream using the same template, I'd be happy for you guys to share your workflow if you are successfully outputting to bluray on this new build?
Ron Windeyer wrote on 11/2/2012, 9:58 PM
I can see what you mean. One thing that has saved me - might help you too, don't know.
I render to mp4 files. In VP10e I customised and SAVED a Sony AVC template; in VP12 (build 367) I similarly customised and SAVED a MainConcept AVC template. Gave them unique names.
Somehow, after updating, those templates are still there and I can access them. If I had not done this I would be like you, without the audio, and without the ability to select mp4 files.
That's just weird.
Customised templates can be transferred across versions and computers. See VP Help - Where are my customised rendering templates?
Guitartoys wrote on 11/2/2012, 10:36 PM
Same here. Audio check box is greyed out.

I'm also have huge ASIO driver problems. It might be related.

Currently Vegas is using the MS Mapper for audio.

I always use my ASIO driver for my M-Audio FastTrack Pro, which support 44, 48 and 96K 16 and 24 bit.

Vegas is complaining.

Guitartoys wrote on 11/2/2012, 10:59 PM
ASIO fixed

Still have the audio check box greyed out for blu ray export

PLS wrote on 11/4/2012, 8:28 AM
Yes looks like a bug. In all Blu-ray "render as" options the audio is greyed out.
Ron Windeyer wrote on 11/4/2012, 7:40 PM
I've done a bit more looking around. I thought initially that templates/options etc had been discontinued or deleted. Now I feel that they have simply been rearranged.

Sony seem to be following the Apple behavior - "we know what you need, here it is. If you thing you need something else you are wrong; we will politely tell you that you can't do that"..

So, if you are rendering for Bluray, you MUST want to create a .avc file - that is now the only option. No audio. You MUST be wanting to do a separate audio file, and combine the two using your Bluray authoring program.

I want to create .mp4 files, with audio. I have found I can do that with MainConcept AVC/MVC; under the Sony tablet 1080P template. It's all still there, just somewhere else. That template is for people creating .mp4 files - again, you can't change the file type. If you want to use the Sony templates for .mp4 files, look under the memory stick section - that will get you a .mp4 file with any specifications you want.

Not sure what the OP is wanting to do, but looking a bit wider amongst the templates might help. Or, rolling back to the previous build and creating a custom template, which will follow you.
musicvid10 wrote on 11/4/2012, 8:26 PM
If you will be authoring in DVD Architect, you will want to render separate files for video and audio. There is some very good sense to this, including multiple audio tracks and easy replacement. Giving DVDA muxed files will always result in the audio being rendered a second time, unnecessarily.

I'm sure there are some audio+video templates that will make good starting points for export to other authoring programs, although Sony does not explicitly support them.
I believe the .avc file extension was always intended as an elementary video stream, so there should be no confusion wrt that.

If the templates have changed slightly, it hardly qualifies as a "Major Issue." You can always modify or roll your own . . .
Guitartoys wrote on 11/4/2012, 8:59 PM
So basically, you are confirming Ron's comment.

Even though we've had the ability to do this for years, Sony (Apple) will decide how you should work, and only make those options available to you.

To me it's a bug.

musicvid10 wrote on 11/4/2012, 9:09 PM
Or maybe having the audio option available in previous template versions was the real bug.
Audio in an elementary video stream wrapper is an oxymoron.
Express wrote on 11/5/2012, 10:26 AM
I agree with Ron - templates created with a prior version of Vegas work just fine in Vegas 12 for included audio.
Because I use only customized templates for HD content - Vegas 12 has yet to show an audio (included audio) error in my workflow.

I use customized templates created in Vegas 11. The were created specifically to include Audio as nearly all of my content goes straight to servers as files.
At some point I'll want to create new templates - not having that option would be a fatal blow.

I do hope taking out the option to include audio was a mistake, not deliberate - if it is not restored, that will be a deal breaker for this long time Vegas user.

Peter Riding wrote on 11/6/2012, 8:53 AM
For what its worth if you use the Tools > Burn Disc > BluRay Disc route you should find selectable audio options. In Vegas 12 build 394 on my system it includes audio options I created in modified Render Templates in Vegas 11.

airport wrote on 11/7/2012, 1:24 PM
What is the best workflow to get from editing a ts or mt2s file in Vegas Pro 12 to creating a Blu-ray disc in dvd architect? I have been rendering with Blu-ray with audio but now can't.

musicvid10 wrote on 11/7/2012, 1:43 PM
"What is the best workflow to get from editing a ts or mt2s file in Vegas Pro 12 to creating a Blu-ray disc in dvd architect?"

Six posts up. That has always been the best workflow. Anything else RE-RENDERS the audio. That means degradation and wasted time. Why would anyone want that?
airport wrote on 11/7/2012, 3:58 PM
I am not a professional daily user, but do occaisional work for charities, etc so I need a little handholding. Since I can't use Blu-0ray 1920-1080 settings with audio what is the best video rendering selection for ts and m2ts files to render to go to DVD Architect? Then what is the best audio selection to render for the same?

vkmast wrote on 11/7/2012, 4:32 PM
the "long version" (so to speak) of musicvid's posts is here
Render Settings for a Blu-ray Disc
more on the same fresh out of cow...
airport wrote on 11/7/2012, 4:52 PM
Thank you, that helps a lot.

BriceWilliams2 wrote on 1/5/2013, 9:16 AM
I know this is an old issue; just signed up for Vimeo account and looked at V11 render (including audio) properties recommended by Vimeo. To my surprise the audio with mp4 is not on option

Now that i have my project file in V12, going back is not so easy. I tried tol create a custom file in V11 and V9, but audio is greyed out.

I did find a format that would meet Vimeo requirements:
Main Concept mp4
640 X 360 (Widescreen DV)
2,000,000 bit rate
AAC 320 K 44.1
Pixel 1.0

What would the result be if I shot in 1.2121 pixel interlace, and render to Square Pixel ? Could I use this for my Widescreen SD content on Vimeo ?