Vegas Pro 18 internal preferences menu gone?

RealityStudio wrote on 8/3/2020, 1:34 PM

Anyone know how to get to the internal preferences menu on Vegas 18? On older versions you would hold shift then select preferences to reveal it but that doesn't work for me anymore. I need that menu so I can set the .jpg quality save level because by default the jpg files Vegas makes are huge in size, and that setting previously was only in the internal hidden menu.

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Marco. wrote on 8/3/2020, 1:47 PM

Press Shift while clicking Options.

RealityStudio wrote on 8/3/2020, 1:52 PM

Perfect, thank you!

gary-o wrote on 8/6/2020, 8:49 AM

Press Shift while clicking Options.

Thanks, so I see Internal is not part of Preferences anymore. But when I shift-click on the Options menu and then click (or shift-click) on Internal - nothing happens.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/6/2020, 9:12 AM

Same here, nothing happens also when i click on the "internal Preferences".

Dexcon wrote on 8/6/2020, 9:15 AM

I just commented on another post -

If you hit Shift-Options, the Internal access should appear at the bottom of the window that opens.

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vkmast wrote on 8/6/2020, 9:21 AM

Holding Shift or Ctrl+Shift while clicking Options both work here to show Internal.

Clicking Internal.. I get this (only upper part shown to save space)

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/6/2020, 10:02 AM

As i mentioned, the Internal Preferences is not opening up after it is selected!

vkmast wrote on 8/6/2020, 10:16 AM

Yes, I saw that clicking (or Shift-clicking) Internal... does not work for you (and gary-o). The thing is, both of those and also even Ctrl+Shift -clicking work here. Tried resetting?

wilvan wrote on 8/14/2020, 2:49 AM

Also here nothing happening when clicking on internal preferences ( after first shift options whereby internal prefs do show up in the list ) . Anybody an idea why this , after so many years working ( working ) the same way , had to be altered ?

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VEGASDerek wrote on 8/14/2020, 5:46 AM

Anybody an idea why this , after so many years working ( working ) the same way , had to be altered ?

Very simply, the conversion of the preferences to allow for importing and exporting resulted in us creating a new structure for all the VEGAS preferences that no longer supported the archaic Win32 dialog and grid controls which had previously displayed the internal preferences. As part of longer term conversion of preference UI, we created the new internal preferences dialog. Eventually, all the preferences will have a new UI which will be better organized and for flexible for us everyone.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/1/2020, 9:56 PM

wilvan, Are you by any chance using it on Windows 7 why nothing is happening when you click on the internal Preferences also?

wilvan wrote on 9/2/2020, 12:36 AM

@Steve_Rhoden : yes , we installed the trial on my partner's system ( same as mine , see my profile ) which has win 7 pro default installed ( he doesn't like all the crap kids apps of win 10 and removing/disabling all that " for kids " stuff takes a day or 2 ) . Too many stops working messages , freezes and crashes caused us to uninstall vegas pro 18 in the meanwhile . No problem doing so , we understand win 7 not being the right choice of OS for vegas pro anymore .

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Sony  PXW-FS7K and 2 x Sony PXW-Z280  ( optimised as per Doug Jensen Master Classes and Alister Chapman advices ) Sony A7 IV
2 x HP Z840 workstations , each as follows : WIN10 pro x 64 , 2 x 10 core Xeon E5-2687W V3 at 3.5 GHz , 256 GB reg ECC RAM , HP nvidia quadro RTX A5000 ( 24GB ), 3 x samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 x4  , 3 x SSD 1TB samsung 860 pro , 3 x 3TB WD3003FZEX.
SONY Vegas Pro 13 build 453  ( user since version 4 ) , SONY DVDarch , SONY SoundForge(s) , SONY Acid Pro(s) , SONY Cinescore ( each year buying upgrades for all of them since vegas pro 4 )
(MAGIX) Vegas pro 14 ( bought it as a kind of support but never installed it )
SONY CATALYST browse 
Adobe Photoshop  CC 2023
Adobe After Effects CC 2023 & Adobe Media Encoder CC 2023
Avid Media Composer 2022.xx ( started with the FREE Avid Media Composer First in 2019 )
Dedicated solely editing systems , fully optimized , windows 10 pro x 64 
( win10 pro operating systems , all most silly garbage and kid's stuff of microsoft entirely removed , never update win 10 unless required for editing purposes or ( maybe ) after a while when updates have proven to be reliable and no needless microsoft kid's stuff is added in the updates )

Joelson wrote on 9/2/2020, 2:39 AM

@Steve_Rhoden @gary-o @wilvan

I also can't access Vegas Pro 18 internal preferences. When I click the "Internal" in the option menu, nothing happens. Apparently it is a limitation due to the operating system used.  

I also use Windows 7 and I will only change when it is no longer possible to work with it. I want to avoid Windows 10 as much as possible.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/2/2020, 6:25 AM

Thanks, Well that's what i wanted to know. It's then a limitation if not using the recommended OS. Not accessible if one is on Windows 7.....

Dexcon wrote on 9/2/2020, 6:40 AM

Re W7 and VP18, I'm fairly certain that Vegas Creative Software staff have previously commented on this forum that it was inevitable that current or new VP versions will not be useable in W7 in the not too far distant future, but it wasn't clear (from memory) if this would occur in a VP18 update or with VP19.

Found it:

VEGASDerek wrote on 8/12/2020, 12:01 AM

The official VEGAS Creative Software stand on OS support is that VEGAS Pro 18 (and 17) requires Windows 10 to run properly. We are not preventing people from installing VEGAS Pro on Windows 7 at this time, however you do so at your own risk. Some features may not work properly on Windows 7 including:

Codec support

GPU encoding and decoding

Deep learning plugins

The reason we decided not to support Windows 7 was due to the fact that this old operating system lacks the components required for some of our features. Also, driver updates and support for hardware was lacking. If you do have problems while using Windows 7 with VEGAS Pro, technical support will first request that you upgrade your OS before offering any other assistance.

It is likely that we will remove the ability to install VEGAS Pro on Windows 7 in a future version of VEGAS Pro.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/will-vegas-18-work-with-windows-7-since-vegas-17-works-fine--123029/

So it looks like occurring after VP18.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

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10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor