Thank you so much for your response @fr0sty! It's good seeing you again. Thanks for informing me about Vegas Pro 20 and it being heavily tested. At least my plugins are in the right place! Thanks again!

Debbie

First of all, you should be able to rest a bit easier knowing that VEGAS 20 is the most heavily tested version of VEGAS released since Magix bought it, they greatly expanded the size of the beta team for this release, and the types of hardware that it gets tested on, so it should hold up better than previous releases as far as stability goes (not to say it'll be perfect, but better).

As for the issue with your plugins, I can't offer much help there, but I'm sure there's some folks around here who have a better idea of what causes this and what can be done to fix it... We'll get you sorted.

@Debbie-Whitmer, You can rest confidently on using Vegas Pro 20, it is solid. As for the rest of all your trusted plugins, i am confident that all of them can still work well in Vegas 20. If there is a problem with any of them, often times there is a work-around in getting them to show up and work, i can assist with that..... In the meantime for this to happen, after installing Vegas 20, reinstall all your trusted plugins!

So, when you have everything working and solid with Vegas 20 and all plugs working, you can easily then uninstall and remove all other previous versions if you like, and free up all the clutter.

@Debbie-Whitmer, You can rest confidently on using Vegas Pro 20, it is solid. As for the rest of all your trusted plugins, i am confident that all of them can still work well in Vegas 20. If there is a problem with any of them, often times there is a work-around in getting them to show up and work, i can assist with that..... In the meantime for this to happen, after installing Vegas 20, reinstall all your trusted plugins!

So, when you have everything working and solid with Vegas 20 and all plugs working, you can easily then uninstall and remove all other previous versions if you like, and free up all the clutter.

@Steve_Rhoden - Thank you so much for responding. At this exact moment, I have a radio broadcast that I'm doing so I will come back and reread and absorb your reply when I have more time. Thank you!

@Debbie-Whitmer, Did you also install "Live 2 Post"?

Please go to the previous version of VEGAS and "clear the cache". Search for instructions here but there are two ways: use the CTRL-SHIFT when starting which will fully reset VEGAS or delete some file which will cause the cache to be rebuilt without doing a full reset.

@jetdv - Thank you so much for responding. At this exact moment, I have a radio broadcast that I'm doing so I will come back and reread and concentrate on your reply when I have more time. Thank you!

Please go to the previous version of VEGAS and "clear the cache". Search for instructions here but there are two ways: use the CTRL-SHIFT when starting which will fully reset VEGAS

That's resetting the software to default settings, instructions here. Be sure to follow them closely.

@Debbie-Whitmer

Please go to the previous version of VEGAS and "clear the cache". Search for instructions here but there are two ways: use the CTRL-SHIFT when starting which will fully reset VEGAS

That's resetting the software to default settings, instructions here. Be sure to follow them closely.

@Debbie-Whitmer

@vkmast - THANK YOU SO MUCH for the link to those directions. I have done it before but it’s been YEARS ago and I knew i would have to look it up but you gave me the link for those instructions! I appreciate so much that kindness. I’m rendering a radio broadcast right now but as soon as I get that out and posted on-line, I will start investigating these suggestions when I’m more free to concentrate. Again, thank you!

@Debbie-Whitmer, You can rest confidently on using Vegas Pro 20, it is solid. As for the rest of all your trusted plugins, i am confident that all of them can still work well in Vegas 20. If there is a problem with any of them, often times there is a work-around in getting them to show up and work, i can assist with that..... In the meantime for this to happen, after installing Vegas 20, reinstall all your trusted plugins!

So, when you have everything working and solid with Vegas 20 and all plugs working, you can easily then uninstall and remove all other previous versions if you like, and free up all the clutter.

@Steve_Rhoden, @vkmast, @fr0sty and @jetdv - I just wanted to let everyone know how things worked out.  Two people told me to reset my previous version of Vegas Pro 19.  So, just to see what it would do, I did a reset on all Vegas Pros 16, 17, 18, and 19 and everything reset nicely!!  And it also corrected the rest of the errors I was having.  All the plugins are back in order again!  As I stated before in my original post, after all that mess happened, Vegas Pro 20 was the ONLY Vegas Pro that was working on my system with the plugins in the correct folders.  So, now, I decided to delete Vegas Pro 16, 18, and 19 off of my system and I just want to keep Vegas Pro 17 to be on my system just for a while longer since I have YEARS of projects originating in Vegas Pro 17 but Vegas Pro 20 will remain as my main video program in moving forward.  So, by removing those aforementioned programs, I got some of that “clutter” off my hard drive.  Everything seems to be working okay now for which I am greatly relieved!!  Whew! I want to thank EVERYONE who pitched in to help me and you surely did!!  I’m grateful for all of you.  As I stated before, when everything is working properly, I really like and enjoy using Vegas Pro.  I think the Vegas Pro video program is brilliantly constructed and I’m amazed at some of the detailed operations that it is able to perform.  When you like what you do with a program that’s user friendly but yet challenging because there is always something new to learn, it makes what you so very enjoyable and satisfying.  Thank you again for your willingness to help and your kindness in doing so!   

As I stated before in my original post, after all that mess happened, Vegas Pro 20 was the ONLY Vegas Pro that was working on my system with the plugins in the correct folders.  So, now, I decided to delete Vegas Pro 16, 18, and 19 off of my system and I just want to keep Vegas Pro 17 to be on my system just for a while longer since I have YEARS of projects originating in Vegas Pro 17 but Vegas Pro 20 will remain as my main video program in moving forward. 

@Debbie-Whitmer, that's because only VEGAS Pro 20 had the correct information cached (as the information had changed and the older versions had not "refreshed" their cache).

On this newest laptop I have versions 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 - my other laptop has versions 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 (it was really getting to slow to run the current versions so I stopped at 19). There's really no "clutter" unless you just needed the drive space and it's nice to be able to test things in older versions as needed. I even have an older laptop with versions 8 and 9 and an older desktop with 10, 11, 12, and 13. It's nice to have a variety of versions to be able to check things in.

As I stated before in my original post, after all that mess happened, Vegas Pro 20 was the ONLY Vegas Pro that was working on my system with the plugins in the correct folders.  So, now, I decided to delete Vegas Pro 16, 18, and 19 off of my system and I just want to keep Vegas Pro 17 to be on my system just for a while longer since I have YEARS of projects originating in Vegas Pro 17 but Vegas Pro 20 will remain as my main video program in moving forward. 

@Debbie-Whitmer, that's because only VEGAS Pro 20 had the correct information cached (as the information had changed and the older versions had not "refreshed" their cache).

On this newest laptop I have versions 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 - my other laptop has versions 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 (it was really getting to slow to run the current versions so I stopped at 19). There's really no "clutter" unless you just needed the drive space and it's nice to be able to test things in older versions as needed. I even have an older laptop with versions 8 and 9 and an older desktop with 10, 11, 12, and 13. It's nice to have a variety of versions to be able to check things in.

@jetdv - Thank you so much for responding. Wow, you had a lot of Vegas programs installed on your computer like I did! In light of what you just said, I have a quick question. Now that you know that only have Vegas Pro 17 and Vegas Pro 20 stored on my PC right now, what would happen if I decided to reinstall Vegas Pro 18 or 19 back on again; would that mess up VP-17, VP 18/19 or VP 20 by any chance? Or would everything still be okay? I look forward to your response. - Debbie

@Debbie-Whitmer, that would be perfectly fine if you want to do that. There should be no issues at all. The only issue this time is that the older versions had cached a previous version of the plugins which is why the stopped working correctly and version 20 cached the new version so it worked. You should not have to do anything except reinstall the other versions and they will continue to work fine.

@Debbie-Whitmer, that would be perfectly fine if you want to do that. There should be no issues at all. The only issue this time is that the older versions had cached a previous version of the plugins which is why the stopped working correctly and version 20 cached the new version so it worked. You should not have to do anything except reinstall the other versions and they will continue to work fine.

THANK YOU AND ALL who were "confident builders" and got me through it! And it's good that Vegas continues to put out a great product! You all have a great day!!

@Debbie-Whitmer, that would be perfectly fine if you want to do that. There should be no issues at all. The only issue this time is that the older versions had cached a previous version of the plugins which is why the stopped working correctly and version 20 cached the new version so it worked. You should not have to do anything except reinstall the other versions and they will continue to work fine.
 

@jetdv - I have a 2-part question while we are on this subject. After I uninstalled Vegas Pro 16, 18, and 19 (I only have VP-17 and VP-20 installed now on my Windows 10 PC), I went to my C-Drive with File Explorer to look at my VEGAS main folder. When I opened it up, the folders that still remain are all of them which are Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. My question is (1) WHY are the folders for VP-16, VP-18, and VP-19 still there after I uninstalled them? And (2) How are these plugins set up, for example, when a newer version of Vegas Pro is installed, is the newer version dependent on the older Vegas Pro's plugins in order to work? Or does each new version of Vegas Pro have its own set of plugins? It's kind of confusing how this works regarding plugins especially when you buy additional plugins AFTER each new version of Vegas Pro is installed.

The folders are mostly empty but have things like presets in them- if you ever reinstall them those versions of Vegas will retain memory of how you used those versions. You can delete the folders if you like.

The few plugins I have need to be in the installed folder of each version of Vegas so when I get a new version I download a newer installer or manually copy them over.

@Debbie-Whitmer This isn't really a VEGAS problem. It has happened to me on 18.

It's quite simply the risk that comes with a software allowing you to maintain multiple versions of the same product.

This is one of the reasons of why other publishers simply opt to make the newer version overwrite the old one; while in your case, each VEGAS version builds a new directory and once every often could potentially lose the plugin folder. Windows is a bit of a flaky beast in that regard.

One of those quirks, I'm afraid.
 

@Debbie-Whitmer This isn't really a VEGAS problem. It has happened to me on 18.

It's quite simply the risk that comes with a software allowing you to maintain multiple versions of the same product.

This is one of the reasons of why other publishers simply opt to make the newer version overwrite the old one; while in your case, each VEGAS version builds a new directory and once every often could potentially lose the plugin folder. Windows is a bit of a flaky beast in that regard.

One of those quirks, I'm afraid.
 

@Mohammed_Anis - Thank you for responding. That is a good point that you make. If you have followed this conversation, when I did a reset on Vegas Pro 19, and I reset all the rest of the older versions as well, by holding down the CTRL and SHIFT keys while double-clicking the executable file, it fixed the problem quite nicely on all those older versions and I was good to go! This was the first time that I have run into this particular problem but, fortunately, there was an easy fix! Again, thank you for your comments. They are greatly appreciated.

@Debbie-Whitmer, the plugins you fixed are the "common" plugins. For example, you indicated issues with NewBlue plugins. Those plugins are installed into c:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins - a common location for installing OFX plugins that many different programs see.

Anything installed in that folder are also seen by VEGAS. When you updated the NewBlue plugins, it updated that common folder. So the "cached" information in the old versions was now out of date. By clearing the cache and forcing it to cache again, it updated to the new versions.

Some plugins are in the version specific folders. Those plugins are seen only by that version of VEGAS. So you don't need to worry about other versions of VEGAS losing anything if you remove the folder from a version you uninstalled. But if you choose to reinstall those versions, I'd leave the folders and just install.

When uninstalling Vegas (and most other applications) the default uninstaller leaves behind folders, registry entries and other data. If one one wants to remove this 'clutter', it can be done manually (time consuming and dangerous), or with a third-party uninstaller, I usually recommend Revo Uninstall'. However.. if multiple versions of an application are installed, it can also remove 'shared data'. So one must be extremely careful on what is removed after the initial uninstall. Fortunately Revo Uninstall has three 'scan' modes (safe, moderate and advanced), with the option to choose exactly what data files (and leftover folders) are removed. Revo Uninstall' also has a Windows cleaner (similar to CCleaner) and other useful tools. I usually recommend Revo when problems reoccur after a reinstall.
Revo Uninstall has pro and freeware versions. The free version is adequate in most cases unless a 'forced' uninstall is needed.

rraud, Magix forums moderator

@Debbie-Whitmer, the plugins you fixed are the "common" plugins. For example, you indicated issues with NewBlue plugins. Those plugins are installed into c:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins - a common location for installing OFX plugins that many different programs see.

Anything installed in that folder are also seen by VEGAS. When you updated the NewBlue plugins, it updated that common folder. So the "cached" information in the old versions was now out of date. By clearing the cache and forcing it to cache again, it updated to the new versions.

Some plugins are in the version specific folders. Those plugins are seen only by that version of VEGAS. So you don't need to worry about other versions of VEGAS losing anything if you remove the folder from a version you uninstalled. But if you choose to reinstall those versions, I'd leave the folders and just install.

@jetdv - Now THAT was helpful too! It makes sense now and now I know how it works. I didn't know about the "c:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins - a common location for installing OFX plugins that many different programs see." Thank you so much for that precise and clear explanation! Thank you so much! 👍👍👍