VP18 Deflicker is a bad plugin

Marco. wrote on 7/27/2021, 4:46 AM

Set the mode to "Histogram smoothing" and the blur is gone.

pierre-k wrote on 7/27/2021, 5:00 AM

The Histogram smoothing has no visible effect. Not even after calculation.

RogerS wrote on 7/27/2021, 6:02 AM

Use it in conjunction with motion tracking? I found that worked better but had a lot of crashes and gave up. That was a few builds ago, though.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 7/27/2021, 7:05 AM

Digital Anarchy Flicker Free is the ultimate best plugin for such an issue, it's what i use and highly recommend!

RE:VisionFX De-Flicker is not bad also, but way too slow. Flicker Free runs circles around them all.

andyrpsmith wrote on 7/27/2021, 8:32 AM

Neat Video is also a great option which includes a flicker control option.

VEGASPascal wrote on 8/5/2021, 9:22 AM

Hi.
I'm sorry, but it's true.
This plugin can only be used with 100% static video, where absolutely nothing moves.

For non-static movement I would suggest to use the "motion compensation" within the plugin (this requires motion tracking information).

pierre-k wrote on 8/5/2021, 9:46 AM

I'd rather stay with Neat Video, which works in real time and great. I'm sorry.

lan-mLMC wrote on 8/5/2021, 11:41 AM

Making plugins is not Vegas Team's strong suit. I prefer Vegas Team to spend energy to update and improve OFX system, such as improving OFX preview window control and improving OFX (Event FX)'s multi-layers input.

fifonik wrote on 8/5/2021, 6:39 PM

I'm also using NeatVideo for this.

RogerS wrote on 8/6/2021, 3:15 AM

I found the deflicker plugin usable with motion tracking (it didn't destroy all motion in the image) but it wasn't stable and I stopped using it after a few crashes. I haven't tested with the last few builds of VP 18, though.

I also have NeatVideo now.

pierre-k wrote on 8/6/2021, 3:38 AM

Does anyone use this VP plugin at all?

Dexcon wrote on 8/6/2021, 5:51 AM

I used Vegas Deflicker on 2 events late last year. As I recall, they were static shots and again as far as I can recall Deflicker worked well and had better playback speed on VP18's timeline than occurred when trying BorisFX's Flicker Fixer on the same events.

alifftudm95 wrote on 8/6/2021, 8:16 AM

Does anyone use this VP plugin at all?

Tried once, it work with static shots only.

VEGAS Pro sure indeed left behind a lot in providing fancy & practical OFX

Dexcon wrote on 8/6/2021, 8:50 AM

VEGAS Pro sure indeed left behind a lot in providing fancy & practical OFX

There's nothing 'fancy' (ornamental or extravagant) about deflickering - it's a rather boring computational process.

@alifftudm95 ... I'm interested to know which deflickering FX you use instead of Vegas Deflickering since you seem to have dismissed it?

IMO, it's a bit like stabilisation, each of Vegas Stab, Mercalli stab plugin, Mercalli SAL and Mocha Pro stab work better with certain stabilisation tasks than with the others. None are the magic bullet for all stab tasks. Like stabilisation, it seems to me to be better to have a number of deflickering tools in the toolbox rather than just one.

vkmast wrote on 8/6/2021, 8:55 AM

@Dexcon I think he wants those fancy OFX. I read his comment to mean that VEGAS Pro has been left behind in providing those OFX.

Dexcon wrote on 8/6/2021, 9:06 AM

I think he wants those fancy OFX. I read his comment to mean that VEGAS Pro has been left behind in providing those OFX.

His comment was maybe ambiguous because I took it as a reference to include the topic - deflickering.

alifftudm95 wrote on 8/6/2021, 1:38 PM

Fancy OFX as in, Chromatic Aberration, Perspective warp, cine lens flares etc. Yes, you can still achieve certain visuals like adding Chromatic aberration or hyperzoom transitions with VEGAS Pro existing OFX (mirror + PiP, RGB levels with 3 track blend etc etc) but it's not practical.

my terms for "Practical OFX" is like Luma Keying, Camera Shakes, strokes etc etc.

Doing Luma mask in VEGAS Pro required 2 track (parent/child ) with Multiply blending + Mask generator and yet you don't have control over feathering. You need to pay roughly 300USD (If you buy instead subscribe) more for Sapphire/BBC plugin for a drag and drop Luma Key OFX and have more fine tune parameters.

Mean while Adobe provide Luma key OFX by default, with more or less control like Sapphire plugins with just a subscription cost. (Its cheaper technically)

Here in my place, its a normal practice to replace the sky (post edit) if the weather is not that great.

But since VEGAS POST was introduce, all of these important OFX that is not available in VEGAS Pro is carried by VEGAS Effects, but I still think its not an ideal "solution".

if most of these OFX were added into VEGAS Pro by default, will greatly make it superior than other competitor.