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NickHope wrote on 6/14/2017, 8:30 AM
Remove gaps worked fine in V14 but it has stopped to work properly - I was able to remove gaps and join video clips and its audio, but right now audio stays where it is and I'm able to remove gaps only between video clips.

I use Vegasaur for this sort of thing if I need it but this RemoveAllGapsAndOverlaps.js script by John Meyer also seems to be working after I updated it for VP14:

/**
* Program:
* Description: This script deletes empty space between events,
* and removes all overlaps between events, and removes all event fades
* on all tracks.
* No attempt is made to synchronize audio and video events.
* Author: John Meyer
* April 9, 2007
*
* June 17, 2017 - Updated for VP14 by Nick Hope
*
**/

import ScriptPortal.Vegas;
import System.Windows.Forms;

try
{

  // step through all selected video events:
  for (var track in Vegas.Project.Tracks) {

    var tracktime = track.Events.Item(0).Start;
    var Fadelength : Timecode = new Timecode("00:00:00.00");

    for (var evnt in track.Events) {

        evnt.AdjustStartLength(tracktime,evnt.Length,false);
    evnt.FadeIn.Length = new Timecode(Fadelength);
    evnt.FadeOut.Length = new Timecode(Fadelength);

//        Take currTake = evnt.ActiveTake;
//        Timecode currOffset = currTake.Offset;
//        evnt.Start = tracktime;
//        currTake.Offset = currOffset;

        tracktime = tracktime + evnt.Length;

    }
  }

}

catch (errorMsg)
{
MessageBox.Show(errorMsg, "Error", MessageBoxButtons.OK, MessageBoxIcon.Exclamation);
}
Cliff Etzel wrote on 6/14/2017, 8:53 AM

As I've both read and experienced issues I will say this: No software is perfect. If it were, everyone would be using it. I just tried an export of an XML from a simple project in VP13 b545 to import into Resolve. It did not import correctly into Resolve 14 b3. Not sure if it's Resolve or Vegas Pro 13. Reality is there are those who have little to no issues with Vegas, and there are others who have alot of issues and have moved away from using Vegas. IMO, Resolve will have its issues as well as any other software out there. It's difficult when you use software to earn a living and it eats into your making a living that isn't eating away at your time because of known issues. I've had the same thing happen with Adobe products, Resolve and Vegas Pro. It's the realities of technology...

arkadiusz-buchala wrote on 6/14/2017, 12:36 PM

I will try it Nick.

Cliff, I understand that but it doesn't explain why in V14 we don't have a freakin GPU support that is worth something. A proper support should be something obvious unless Vegas doesn't want to be eaten by competiton.

I would like to continue using Vegas, because I invested money in 3rd party plugins for this platform and because I like Vegas workflow, but I'm not going to force it if Vegas won't be reliable. As I wrote before, new Resolve is giving me a great performance even on older machines and also good workflow, that's why I'm thinking about completely switching to Resolve.

In my experience XML form V14 works fine with Resolve 14 b3, but I tried it only in one project so it's maybe only a coincidence.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 6/14/2017, 1:33 PM

@arkadiusz-buchala - it seems that the XML file exported from VP13 isn't seen completely by Resolve - I had to have it search for all my clip s from a sample project. I will admit, the rendering engine in Resolve is very fast. But given I edit so efficiently in Vegas Pro and can use the Vegas2Handbrake script to render out to custom templates I've created, it works perfectly. I find the node based color grading paradigm in Resolve cumbersome. I want to be shooting and efficiently editing, not dealing with figuring out how to color grade a clip. I have a feeling version 15 is not going to be like the previous iterations of Vegas Pro as there appears to be a serious commitment to Vegas Pro 15.

Matt12 wrote on 6/14/2017, 3:32 PM

i am totally baffled by what is happening...last year I did not update to 14 because of the mess with the offer for upgrading (wait for...) and planning to skip for the 1st time an update. Now I am getting a 149 euro's offer. So, just start to wonder about what's going on with V15. Is it 1 year away or 6 months or 2 years or what? Really confusing.

Barton-Santello wrote on 6/14/2017, 9:06 PM

Magix usually releases a new version each year. I believe Vegas Pro 14 was released in the fall of 2016. I would expect a version 15 around that time.

NickHope wrote on 6/14/2017, 11:08 PM

...Now I am getting a 149 euro's offer...

Where? How? The minimum I'm seeing is 199 Euros/Dollars upgrade to VP14 Edit here.

Matt12 wrote on 6/15/2017, 12:42 AM

...Now I am getting a 149 euro's offer...

Where? How? The minimum I'm seeing is 199 Euros/Dollars upgrade to VP14 Edit here.

received an email with offer to upgrade before june the 19th

vkmast wrote on 6/15/2017, 1:28 AM

Nick's still not receiving Vegas emails?!? Come on, MAGIX.

 

TheDingo wrote on 6/15/2017, 3:47 PM

I will be totally p*ssed if I am forced to upgrade to Vegas Pro 15 to be able to natively edit my GH5 10-bit video files. ( Adobe Premiere now supports GH5 10-bit video )

I will switch to start editing with DaVinci Resolve 14 ( which I am already using for advanced color correction right now ) if this happens.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 6/15/2017, 4:38 PM

I will be totally p*ssed if I am forced to upgrade to Vegas Pro 15 to be able to natively edit my GH5 10-bit video files. ( Adobe Premiere now supports GH5 10-bit video )

I will switch to start editing with DaVinci Resolve 14 ( which I am already using for advanced color correction right now ) if this happens.

GH5 came out after Vegas Pro 14.... Work arounds exist but not ideal... PPro constantly updates due to Ransomeware model... Magix isn't doing that. Resolve 14 still feels incomplete for editing and I'm not a fan of node based color grading but my work doesn't require it.

cdavid wrote on 6/15/2017, 4:57 PM

The earliest archived notice I received for the Vegas 14 release was August 8, 2016. So only a couple of months to go before version 15 is available. 😉

TheDingo wrote on 6/15/2017, 6:24 PM

I will be totally p*ssed if I am forced to upgrade to Vegas Pro 15 to be able to natively edit my GH5 10-bit video files. ( Adobe Premiere now supports GH5 10-bit video )

I will switch to start editing with DaVinci Resolve 14 ( which I am already using for advanced color correction right now ) if this happens.

GH5 came out after Vegas Pro 14.... Work arounds exist but not ideal... PPro constantly updates due to Ransomeware model... Magix isn't doing that. Resolve 14 still feels incomplete for editing and I'm not a fan of node based color grading but my work doesn't require it.

Yes, the GH5 came out after Vegas Pro 14, but this should not prevent Vegas Pro 14 from supporting GH5 formats. The GH5 10-bit file formats have been around since January 2017, but we are still waiting for Vegas Pro to be updated to be able to use these formats, and I honestly can't believe how long it's taking to add this support.

- The FREE Sony Catalyst video browser/transcoding software supports GH5 10-bit file formats.

- DaVinci Resolve 14 beta software supports GH5 10-bit file formats.

I fully expect that the FREE version of DaVinci Resolve 14 will support GH5 10-bit file formats when it's out of beta.

- EDIUS video editing software supports GH5 10-bit file formats.

- Premiere Pro CC software supports GH5 10-bit file formats.

Where is Vegas Pro 14 support ???

...I have access to Adobe Creative Cloud through work, so that's another option for me to go with. I've been using the Vegas editor for more than 15 years now, but I will not be blackmailed into purchasing an upgrade for what should be a basic feature of the current VP14 editor.

 

VEGAS_CommunityManager wrote on 6/16/2017, 7:42 AM

...Now I am getting a 149 euro's offer...

Where? How? The minimum I'm seeing is 199 Euros/Dollars upgrade to VP14 Edit here.


@vkmast Nick already has VEGAS Pro 14. This is why he didn't get an email for that offer. The emails only go to users with older version.

NickHope wrote on 6/16/2017, 8:09 AM


@vkmast Nick already has VEGAS Pro 14. This is why he didn't get an email for that offer. The emails only go to users with older version.

It's good that your email system can automatically withhold promotions for users who already have that product 👍

I guess vkmast was referring to the fact that some of us don't seem to be on the VEGAS email list at all. However I did receive one email from news@vegas.magix.net last November, so maybe I am on the list and that was the last email I should have received.

gary-rebholz wrote on 6/16/2017, 11:22 AM

There is so much in this post that I don't really know how to begin. Maybe just a few summary points to start:

  • I'm surprise that there are still questions about whether VEGAS Pro will be developed into the future, but I get that users get nervous--I'm the same way with products I rely on. So, let me say again, we are committed to the future of the VEGAS line. Version 15 is already under development. I cannot discuss details of timing and features at this time. That's not unusual for any product, not just VEGAS.
  • Another update for VEGAS Pro 14 is also in the works and we will release that as soon as we can
  • We are aware of many bugs. We'll fix as many as we can following a logical and reasonable release schedule and balancing their importance with the importance of implementing new features that users are also asking for. I hope that bugs that are most impacting you individually will be fixed, but I can't promise that for all users.
  • We are aware of GPU problems. We'll make as many improvements as we can following a logical and reasonable release schedule. Will we make it perfect in the next release? No, but we will make progress
  • Export to Resolve is problematic--we know that. I don't know when we'll be able to fix it, but it's certainly not delayed because we don't want to fix it. We do. It's a matter of time, team, and priorities
  • GH5 10-bit video is certainly on our list. Again, it's a matter of priorities. I understand and sympathize with those of you to whom it is the most important factor and can't use VEGAS because of it. I don't want you to think I am discounting its importance to you. I also understand that some of the competition already support it. I don't like the situation, and of course I don't want anyone switching away from VEGAS because of it. We will address it as soon as possible given our priorities
Barton-Santello wrote on 6/16/2017, 4:29 PM
  • gary-rebholz wrote on 6/16/2017, 9:22 AM
  • "...We are aware of many bugs. We'll fix as many as we can following a logical and reasonable release schedule and balancing their importance with the importance of implementing new features that users are also asking for. I hope that bugs that are most impacting you individually will be fixed, but I can't promise that for all users.."

Thanks Gary for your comments and efforts of the VEGAS team.

My main problem with VegasPRO 14 is 'stability' with windows 10. I have a new Intel 6-core video-editing desktop and after launching the program and after adding any video file to the timeline - just waiting idle, I'll get a crash notice within a couple of minutes. I have the program on a high-performance (WIndow 10) laptop and it's more stable, but prone to crashes after calling-up third party plugins, so I have to 'save' often.

I know new features to keep up with camera and computer technology is important, but 'stability' is key to the psychology of the user's long-term commitment to the software platform.

Bart

Cliff Etzel wrote on 6/16/2017, 6:03 PM

There is so much in this post that I don't really know how to begin. Maybe just a few summary points to start:

  • I'm surprise that there are still questions about whether VEGAS Pro will be developed into the future, but I get that users get nervous--I'm the same way with products I rely on. So, let me say again, we are committed to the future of the VEGAS line. Version 15 is already under development. I cannot discuss details of timing and features at this time. That's not unusual for any product, not just VEGAS.
  • Another update for VEGAS Pro 14 is also in the works and we will release that as soon as we can
  • We are aware of many bugs. We'll fix as many as we can following a logical and reasonable release schedule and balancing their importance with the importance of implementing new features that users are also asking for. I hope that bugs that are most impacting you individually will be fixed, but I can't promise that for all users.
  • We are aware of GPU problems. We'll make as many improvements as we can following a logical and reasonable release schedule. Will we make it perfect in the next release? No, but we will make progress
  • Export to Resolve is problematic--we know that. I don't know when we'll be able to fix it, but it's certainly not delayed because we don't want to fix it. We do. It's a matter of time, team, and priorities
  • GH5 10-bit video is certainly on our list. Again, it's a matter of priorities. I understand and sympathize with those of you to whom it is the most important factor and can't use VEGAS because of it. I don't want you to think I am discounting its importance to you. I also understand that some of the competition already support it. I don't like the situation, and of course I don't want anyone switching away from VEGAS because of it. We will address it as soon as possible given our priorities

Thanks Gary for responding with a bullet list - Kudos for keeping us updated.

Video_flaneur wrote on 6/16/2017, 6:41 PM

Thank you Gary for your response. There is a tremendous amount of goodwill out there for Vegas, but given the silence and hiatus before the switch to MAGIX numbers of users have become nervous that they may have hitched their wagon to a product that is slowly heading down a blind alley. A little reassurance from the production team from time to time that things are progressing can help calm that nervousness.

Laptop: Asus W.10, 64 bit, i7-3630QM @ 2.4 GHz; 16 GB Ram, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M

Vegas Pro 19 (Build 643); Vegasaur Toolkit 4.0.1; ProDad Mercall v.4; HitFilm Pro Version 2021.1; Acid Pro 10; Sound Forge Pro 12;

JJKizak wrote on 6/16/2017, 6:42 PM

Too bad they can't use a testing computer facility to run the program in all functions with a test program to test all parameters and settings, when a defect is found it prints out all the defective stuff and repairs it at the same time, then continues to the next defect, prints out what was wrong, repairs it, then continues until the testing program is finished. Such a deal.

JJK

TheDingo wrote on 6/16/2017, 7:50 PM

Barton-Santello wrote : My main problem with VegasPRO 14 is 'stability' with windows 10. I have a new Intel 6-core video-editing desktop and after launching the program and after adding any video file to the timeline - just waiting idle, I'll get a crash notice within a couple of minutes. I have the program on a high-performance (WIndow 10) laptop and it's more stable, but prone to crashes after calling-up third party plugins, so I have to 'save' often

Vegas has always been rock solid for me, including three PCs currently running Vegas Pro 13 and Vegas Pro 14 on Windows 10.

One thing that might be different for me is that ALL of my computers are using AMD video cards, as I know that Vegas runs best under AMD GPUs.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 6/16/2017, 7:56 PM

 

Vegas has always been rock solid for me, including three PCs currently running Vegas Pro 13 and Vegas Pro 14 on Windows 10.

One thing that might be different for me is that ALL of my computers are using AMD video cards, as I know that Vegas runs best under AMD GPUs.

@TheDingo - I have a Radeon 6970 that I was going to use until I discovered ti was running HOT! I mean like 10-15C hotter than my nVidia GTX-660ti. It's also alot noisier - I gave up on the card and reinstalled my nVidia card. Do Radeon cards tend to run hotter???

TheDingo wrote on 6/16/2017, 8:04 PM

re: Radeon heat : I think it depends on the GPU, the cooler, and who makes it. I usually run ASUS or Saphire AMD cards and they seem to be ok. What sort of temps are you seeing ?

cdavid wrote on 6/16/2017, 8:18 PM

Thanks for the response Gary (gary-rebholz). It seems you work at Magix. What's your role?

I'm a developer working for a software company, so I understand that you can't promise anything, or anywhen. However, I (and others I'm sure) appreciate knowing that Magix is planning on, and actively working on, the next version of Vegas. You have a ready-built community of users who want the product to continue and thrive. I hope you'll use us for that purpose.