Does Vegas have an 'audio object editor' like Samplitude?

ikhider wrote on 5/7/2022, 7:17 PM

Does anyone know if Vegas can get as granular with Audio as Samplitude? I know audio engineers who use Vegas just for audio. Am looking at Samplitude for sound design/ audio scoring for video/documentary. Samplitude has an 'import video' option, but you have to have the right format and I do not think you can import/export video like you can with Reaper, so you have that limitation. But I do not think Reaper has an object editor like Samplitude, which could be useful. Anyone here use both Vegas and Samplitude for film/video work?

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walter-i. wrote on 5/8/2022, 2:28 AM

There are 30-day trial versions of both Samplitude and Vegas Pro.
The big advantage of trying it out for yourself is that you can test it on your own system.
The problem with relying on the opinions of others is that your own system may not meet the minimum requirements, or some settings or components may not fit your own (very specific) requirements or the desired or usual workflow.
Then, despite well-intentioned advice, very often dissatisfaction remains.
There are many, many examples in the Vegas Pro forum about this - and this is (in my opinion) also the good reason why software companies provide trial versions - they want satisfied customers.

ikhider wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:25 AM

@walter-i. My question spans beyond what a 30-day trial can answer, like a seasoned audio veteran who has been in the trenches with Samplitude Pro for a number of years.

Samplitude marketing is mostly directed towards musicians. The only video series on Samplitude I was able to find was by Studio Marco Primeau who uses it for studio recording and mixing and Davinci Resolve for audio-for video. However, Samplitude now advertises that it can be used for working with film footage. I was aware of this ability but do not know of many people who use it as such. There are videos of people who use Logic, Cubase, and Avid Pro Tools for film/video work and share insights. Then you have Glenn Fricker who will scream at you over the course of hundreds of videos as to why Reaper is the best solution, when not doing spoof videos that mock Avid Pro Tools and their users.

While Samplitude has some weaknesses out-of-the-gate (does not support a lot of video formats), things like their advanced object editor look like a major plus. I hoped someone who does use Samplitude for audio-for-film might share insights from experience and highlight some benefits.

Anything can do audio-for-video, including Audacity or any NLE. But if you work on some larger, more ambitious projects, you *might* feel you need 'a little more' for audio and want to import the project into a DAW, preferably a really good one.

vkmast wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:33 AM

 I hoped someone who does use Samplitude for audio-for-film might share insights from experience and highlight some benefits.

@ikhider I assume that you have tried to discuss this here https://www.magix.info/us/audio-forum/samplitude/ ?

ikhider wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:38 AM

@vkmast Actually, I wanted to go straight to the Samplitude forum and ask, but it is restricted to Samplitude users. Not really a marketing tool, is it? Heh.

I am able to read the forum posts, but there does not seem to be a lot of dialog about Samplitude-for-video apart from complaints about lack of format support. (hint-hint for developers).

I use Vegas, it is a fine tool, but it cannot do everything. That is why Sound Forge Pro is bundled with it at times, so it can do more. It is possible that using Samplitude in conjunction with Vegas for larger scale projects could be useful. Of course, I could also be wrong and Vegas might be able to do everything Samplitude can.

vkmast wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:40 AM

@ikhider OK. https://community.samplitude.com/ ?

Btw, I seem to be to comment here https://www.magix.info/us/audio-forum/ incl Samplitude though I'm not a user. Odd.

ikhider wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:51 AM

Was never a member, my regular ID does not work and have tried to register twice. Odder.

I guess it as as Woody Allen says, I would not want to be part of a club that would have me as a member. 😜

vkmast wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:56 AM

That actually may not be as odd as not being able to post at magix.info

Odd is also that you do have an own post at Samplitude there.

ikhider wrote on 5/8/2022, 4:57 AM

@vkmast Have you used Samplitude for sound design? Thoughts?

vkmast wrote on 5/8/2022, 5:10 AM

No, I have not.

@ikhider

ikhider wrote on 5/8/2022, 5:15 AM

@vkmast Thanks, no worries. I suspect Samplitude Pro is an excellent tool for such a task. In no way am I making light of Vegas as an audio tool either.

vkmast wrote on 5/8/2022, 7:44 AM

Please continue here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/samplitude-for-sound-design-for-video--135292/ to avoid cross posting (CR #3).