'Entry version' is kind of one of those 'eyes of the beholder' terms, probably based on one's own experience with companies who have used that term over the years. I've generally taken it to mean that 'entry version/level' is the lowest cost version of the available product range which, in this case, is Vegas Pro Edit. Before VMS was discontinued, if VMS was promoted as being the entry to the Vegas Pro world, I would think that that would have been misleading because VMS was genuinely the junior version to Pro. But it's all perceptions.

But I've long struggled with Vegas Pro version naming. Vegas Pro should be branded as the basic (entry) version of the Vegas Pro line of products. Usually, the basic version of a product has the simplest name and the better featured versions have augmented names. To me, it would have been much better if Vegas Pro Edit was simply named Vegas Pro, and what is now called Vegas Pro was named something like Vegas Pro Plus (because there's more than the basic version - if only Sound Forge Pro), and then the top offering was the well named Vegas Pro Suite because it implies an even better offering.

Going back to the transfer of ownership of Vegas products from Sony to MAGIX, I can see how the Edit name came about because Vegas Pro came with DVD Architect which meant that a project could both be edited and finalised to DVD/BD with Vegas Pro, but MAGIX introduced with VP14 the non-DVDA version called Edit so named because it was only for editing but not burning. How times have changed.

It's always possible marketing-wise to re-jig version naming conventions, particularly with the introduction of a new version (like VP19/20/etc) to reconfigure version names and make it sound like an advancement with oft promoted lines such as 'All New', 'Revitalised', 'New Generation', etc that shroud a reconfiguration for marketing purposes. To do so is not always deceptive, but a good chance to reposition for the current technology and market needs and expectations.

Maybe, the ditching of DVDA and replacing it with Sound Forge Pro was a lost opportunity to have done that at the time.

@EricLNZ I read that too. But how would someone in ad copy describe it without saying "entry"? We know it's the full version of Vegas without the extras.

@Dexcon I guess the naming association also comes down to what someone has experienced in the past. In some software, the different between the "entry" and the next version up is a lot. More tracks, editing features, etc..

This is where the comparison is necessary. Vegas Pro Standard, Plus, Suite. Plus has everything Standard does and includes....blah blah blah.... Suite everything Plus has and blah blah blah. People would see the difference is only addons included, and not that the base editor in Standard is any different than Suite.

I just started up Movie Maker 17 and got a popup for an upgrade. Installed it, and now the program will not run. Also, every time I start it again, even after restarting the machine, it says I haven't installed the upgrade. Is this a trojan horse?? I need the software and now it's broken.

I just started up Movie Maker 17 and got a popup for an upgrade. Installed it, and now the program will not run. Also, every time I start it again, even after restarting the machine, it says I haven't installed the upgrade. Is this a trojan horse?? I need the software and now it's broken.

@Judith-Kerman Hopefully you have read the original (1st) post for this thread and know that Movie Studio 18 has nothing to do with Vegas Movie Studio 17. The VMS programs have been retired. The upgrade is not an upgrade at all - it is a completely different program based on a different video editing program. Magix Germany who are the owners of everything, are the people responsible for this deception - Vegas Creative Software has no part in this.

Did you download the free trial first or buy before you knew what was happening?

Which program is not running - Vegas Movie Studio 17 or Magix Movie Studio 18?

Type Control Panel in the Windows Search box (bottom left) and select Control Panel.
Switch View By = LARGE ICONS (top right)
Select Programs and Features
Press Publisher column to sort Alphabetically.
Scroll down to M's and look for Magix Software GmbH
If the program is installed, you will see Movie Studio 18 or Movie Studio Platinum 18, depending on which program you installed/bought. If you only have the Vegas Movie Studio 17 installed, that will be in the VEGAS section.

If you did install it, you need to use the new Movie Studio 18 icon to launch program.
If you don't see it, press Windows Start button and it will show under Recently added programs OR go to M's and find Magix - it will be inside this folder.

This Vegas forum here, cannot offer you any help with Magix Movie Studio 18. You need to post a message on the Magix forums to get help with that. https://www.magix.info/us/video-forum/movie-edit-pro/

If you feel like you have been tricked (like most people have), I would recommend requesting a refund from Magix.

Regards, Derek
 

@Reyfox From your comments it appears Corel are a better company to deal with than Magix. Unfortunately they don't provide a free trial for the current version of Pinnacle Studio, which is the favourite among my real life video friends.

I just checked and they actually have a trial version of Pinnacle Studio 25 which you can download without giving any credit card information: https://www.pinnaclesys.com/en/free-trials/

Corel support also told me they offer 30-day money back guarantee as well if you buy the software. This is how respectful and honest companies do .. you hear that magix?

@True-H I downloaded a Pinnacle trial a few months back but what I got was an earlier version which I wasn't impressed with. Your link looks like it might be something new though.

@True-H I downloaded a Pinnacle trial a few months back but what I got was an earlier version which I wasn't impressed with. Your link looks like it might be something new though.

Please share your experience with the new version if you try it.

Please share your experience with the new version if you try it

@True-H It's unlikely I will, at least not for a while. Periodically I play with other editors and each time I'm thankful for what VMS gives me. If I move anywhere it will be Vegas Pro.

I've had Pinnacle for almost 20 years. It has had it's ups and downs. Pinnacle Edition (later Avid Liquid) was beyond awesome, but being a direct Media Composer competitor for 1/3rd the price, well, business is business. When my needs slowed down, buying Media Composer (they offered a great price) was not necessary.

The current version of Pinnacle Studio is ok as a consumer editor. Lots of features for sure. That is what sells. But no 3rd party support if you want it. It also has other issues. I have it because I have a template I use every year for our church's "year in review" video. But for editing without worry, Vegas. @EricLNZ Vegas Pro would be the choice for sure. I like exploring other editors just to see what's out there. It's my only "vice".

And yes, if you buy it, you have 30 days to hammer away at it. Not for you? You get your money back.