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paul_w wrote on 6/29/2012, 12:25 PM
would that be a HD-DVD

short playing time.

Paul.
Kimberly wrote on 6/29/2012, 12:30 PM
I'm a little fuzzy on the details without checking Wikipedia, but here goes:

BD-5 if you are burning to a single layer 4.5 gig DVD.
BD-9 if you are burning to a double layer 9 gig DVD.

At one time BD-9 was an officially recognied spec. BD-5 was the slang for disks BD format discs creating on a basic DVD.

My Sony Blu-ray player plays the BD-5 disks that I make. Not all players support BD-9 or BD-5.

Regards,

Kimberly
videoITguy wrote on 6/29/2012, 3:01 PM
I don't think there ever was coined an "official" name for this process since it became generally disassociated with the various standards of DVD and Blu-ray production.

There was an early generation of Blu-ray players that carried the AVCHD desigination - and this was considered to be indicative that (might) could play AVCHD High-definition files recorded on non high-definition media as the early cameras of this format did. Very few players in current manufacturer will actually play Blu-ray encoded material recorded on a standard DVD -and if they do, you get about 18minutes of AVCHD coding on a standard DVD.

SCS has disallowed producing this type in current versions of their production software.
john_dennis wrote on 6/29/2012, 4:39 PM
"SCS has disallowed producing this type in current versions of their production software."

Vegas and DVD Architect allow one to create an .iso image. One can burn that image to any media you choose. Whether it will play on a particular player is a different issue.

It's been some time since I burned a "round and shiny" disc, DVD-5, DVD-9 or BD-R. For about a year now, I've created Blu-ray .iso images. I then rewrap the .iso to .mkv using MakeMKV and play them on a Sony Blu-ray player from a USB-attached hard drive. Using AVC, the Sony Blu-ray player allows chapter navigation within a title. It doesn't allow menus or supprt navigation for MPEG-2 Blu-rays or DVDs. I like the process so well that I bought my son a Blu-ray player just like mine. He can play the raw files from his AVCHD camera or the edited Blu-ray images that I make from his source.

Prior to this, I had to waste time making DVD's for him. Now I can give him a file or Blu-ray on DVD-5. DVD-9 can be more trouble than it's worth.
Kimberly wrote on 6/29/2012, 10:00 PM
Sorry for the confusion on my reply.

When I burn a Blu-ray format disk on a standard DVD, I call it a BD-5. Blu-ray is the format; the container just happens to be DVD and this holds less content than a proper BD disk. It's like having chocolate frosting in a 1 cup tub or chocolate frosting in a 3 cup tub. It's the same frosting but the bigger tub holds more.

You can make BD-5s in DVD-A by changing the disk size in the menu. I don't have DVD-A up right now but I think the setting is under "Optimize" or something like that. When I do this I can get about 25-30 minutes of video on the disk.

My Sony Blu-ray player plays my BD-5 disks. Other Blu-ray players may not play such disks. I cannot play the BD-5 in the DVD drive on my computer even though I burned it in the same drive! That makes sense to me because the DVD drive cannot read the Blu-ray format disk.

Here is where I obtained my information on the subject. Not sure if this is 100% accurate but it may be helpful to others:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#BD9_and_BD5
john_dennis wrote on 6/29/2012, 10:27 PM
"You can make BD-5s in DVD-A by changing the disk size in the menu.

Kimberly,

You can select 8.5GB and 4.7GB disk in Project Properties in DVD Architect 5.0b, but SCS removed the option for Blu-ray in version 5.2. I believe this is what VideoITGuy was alluding to. I didn't even notice the change until someone else pointed it out because I never burn a physical disk from DVD Architect.
Kimberly wrote on 6/29/2012, 11:36 PM
You can select 8.5GB and 4.7GB disk in Project Properties in DVD Architect 5.0b, but SCS removed the option for Bluray in version 5.2. I believe this is what VideoITGuy was alluding to. I didn't even notice the change until someone else pointed it out because I never burn a physical disk from DVD Architect.

Curious! I just checked DVD-A 5.2 Builds 133 and 135 and you are absolutely correct. Those sly devils at SCS stole that capability away from us : (

But I'm sure I made a BD-5 after upgrading to Pro 11, so that would have been DVD-A 5.2 but an earlier build. I cannot find the link on this site that has all the software and previous versions . . . I had that version installed on my computer until a few weeks ago when I did a clean install of Windows 7.
john_dennis wrote on 6/30/2012, 12:20 AM
" I cannot find the link on this site that has all the software and previous versions..."


Start Here
vkmast wrote on 6/30/2012, 4:21 AM
Kimberly,
I think the build you want would be DVDA Pro 5.2 build 124.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=22&MessageID=784792
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=22&MessageID=784234
Kimberly wrote on 6/30/2012, 9:23 AM
I think the build you want would be DVDA Pro 5.2 build 124.

Yep, that's the one! And if you look in the list of available build numbers at http://download.sonycreativesoftware.com/current/, I don't see Build 124, unless it's the file that is called dvdarchitectpro52.exe.

I keep a copy of my important software along with my serial numbers in a notebook . . . I wonder if I have a copy of Build 124 upstairs . . .

It's important to me because I'm (finally) ordering a new laptop with a 1920 x 1080 screen and a Blu-ray reader. I was planning to test Blu-ray format disks on DVD so must locate Build 124.

Regards,

Kimberly

EDIT: I wrote to tech support asking them to re-enable this capability. It disappeared quietly from Build 124 to subsequent builds. Maybe it can reappear quietly as well : )
Kimberly wrote on 6/30/2012, 2:48 PM
Hello All:

I successfully rolled back to DVD-A 5.2 Build 124. This lets you burn the Blu-ray format disk on DVDs (BD-9s and BD-5s).

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/41612696/Snip%20DVDA5.2.124.PNG

I like having this capability so I'm going to save this file off on disk and put it in my software notebook just it disappears from the website.

I followed the link provided by John Dennis elsewhere in this thread. It's the file about halfway down the page that is called [u]dvdarchitect52.exe[/]. Note there are several DVD-A files higher up in the page that show the build numbers. You don't want those.

I'm really glad the OP asked about this. I wouldn't have noticed this straight off and would have had to deal with it when my new laptop arrives in a few weeks.

Regards,

Kimberly
Kimberly wrote on 7/5/2012, 4:30 PM
Update

I wrote to SCS Support on June 30 about why we can no longer make BD-5 and BD-9 disks in the newest versions of DVD-A. Just heard back from them today:

Per SCS:

Unfortunately, that feature was taken out due to legality issues with the Blu-ray format trademark, and had to be taken out in a newer build of the software.