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Master86 wrote on 8/12/2017, 7:59 AM

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glovercover wrote on 8/12/2017, 8:02 AM

I think more information than here - vegas-magazine.com, we do not know, before the release of Vegas 15. And it is sad! In the best traditions of Sony Creative Software.

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Mindmatter wrote on 8/12/2017, 8:55 AM

nice one, I didn't know of vegas magazine...!

but seeing this in the article "through extensive user participation in surveys", I wonder where that "survey " was done?? All I remeber was a couple of threads here about saying what you'd like to see. Is that what they mean?

TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/12/2017, 9:00 AM

Rendering settings are limited by codec requirements. With some codecs there is no limits.

 

JackW wrote on 8/12/2017, 7:01 PM

"Survey" = suggestions, bitching, complaints and bugs mentioned here on the Forum.

Red Prince wrote on 8/12/2017, 8:34 PM

I think more information than here - vegas-magazine.com

Wow, so just some cosmetic changes. <Yawn>

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/13/2017, 7:02 AM

As usual, don't think it's worth it, don't upgrade.

JJKizak wrote on 8/13/2017, 8:30 AM

As usual, don't think it's worth it, don't upgrade.


HHMMMM, didn't they say that in the auto industry when seat belts, air bags, anti-lock brakes, and computer controlled engines were introduced?

JJK

Red Prince wrote on 8/13/2017, 12:08 PM

As usual, don't think it's worth it, don't upgrade.

Don’t worry, I won’t. But if I just do that, they will not know why I didn’t upgrade, and it will help them make it worth upgrading.

Edit: By the it that will help them I meant mentioning here the reason for not upgrading.

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He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

ushere wrote on 8/13/2017, 8:29 PM

 computer controlled engines

ah, now there's a can of worms ;-(

great when working, impossible and expensive when not. rather like vegas ;-)

marc-s wrote on 8/14/2017, 1:13 AM

Will be interesting to see what they come up with in V15. I skipped V14 as it seemed like a couple of tweaks and a bunch of new bugs. Glad I did but I'm ready to upgrade if they deliver a solid stable product with actual GPU support and better effects especially in the color correction department. No more gimmicks please...

TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/14/2017, 5:39 AM

GPU support and better effects especially in the color correction department. No more gimmicks please...

My definition of gimmicks! :). To each his own, eh? :)

marc-s wrote on 8/14/2017, 11:59 PM

For me the gimmicks have been half baked title programs, 3D support, ipad editing, and so on instead solving the speed and stability issues and updating the color correction plugins, media management etc. to something similar to what we see in Resolve and Premiere. Vegas used to be so far ahead in many ways, I think if they spent their energy improving the core usefulness and stability they would do better.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/15/2017, 1:53 AM

 

My definition of gimmicks! :). To each his own, eh? :)

That is the point. For example, for Marc 3D was a gimmick, for me it was essential since I edit 3D footage.

If a new version offers features that bring me value will depend on my needs, and needs are different.

glovercover wrote on 8/15/2017, 3:32 AM

For me the gimmicks have been half baked title programs, 3D support, ipad editing, and so on instead solving the speed and stability issues and updating the color correction plugins, media management etc. to something similar to what we see in Resolve and Premiere. Vegas used to be so far ahead in many ways, I think if they spent their energy improving the core usefulness and stability they would do better.

Totally agree! I also think that they spend too much energy on Vegas Movie Studio. This is absolutely useless product. I'm sure its sales are very low.

I think the prices for Vegas also need to be looked at. Or in a year, Vegas will simply not be bought.

Vegas One - For free! (No import/export pro formats), Youtubers choice.
Vegas Edit - $ 99
Vegas Pro - $ 199

That's how I see it myself!

vkmast wrote on 8/15/2017, 3:46 AM

- - - I also think that they spend too much energy on Vegas Movie Studio. This is absolutely useless product. I'm sure its sales are very low.

If you're referring to the basic Vegas Movie Studio, I'd agree somewhat. OTOH, if you're referring to VMS Platinum, that would be a gross exaggeration.

glovercover wrote on 8/15/2017, 3:56 AM

- - - I also think that they spend too much energy on Vegas Movie Studio. This is absolutely useless product. I'm sure its sales are very low.

If you're referring to the basic Vegas Movie Studio, I'd agree somewhat. OTOH, if you're referring to VMS Platinum, that would be a gross exaggeration.

I mean the whole line Vegas Movie Studio. Only one quality product is needed - this is Vegas Pro! It is better to make one program well than badly many of its varieties.

It is better to do one thing well - than many but badly!

It's obvious that developers do not have enough time and resources to develop even one program.
This is my personal opinion, and this is just my thoughts aloud!

ushere wrote on 8/15/2017, 3:59 AM

+1 marc-s

whilst i realize there are some ardent fans of 3d there's absolutely no commercial value to it for me and many of the professional editors i know. if vegas wants to be considered a 'professional' nle, they need to think like professionals and implement what professionals want - stability, reliability and the incorporation of current technology, eg. gpu

vkmast wrote on 8/15/2017, 4:01 AM

gc, as a mod above says, the needs are different. You are absolutely free to see it your way though, as are others. Here.

glovercover wrote on 8/15/2017, 4:11 AM

+1 marc-s

whilst i realize there are some ardent fans of 3d there's absolutely no commercial value to it for me and many of the professional editors i know. if vegas wants to be considered a 'professional' nle, they need to think like professionals and implement what professionals want - stability, reliability and the incorporation of current technology, eg. gpu

I completely agree! A good product, sells itself!

TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/15/2017, 4:47 PM

I don't think I've met anyone (maybe one or two editors) who use Vegas "Pro", but have met many many many more who use the lower end lines. They don't need all the extra features I want.

And I want full, 10 point touch screen support. I find it silly tablet programs can support this but windows 8/10 programs can't. I should be able to use my touch screen to do multiple things at once in Vegas.

I also find my version VERY stable. I said in another post, most of my issues have been non-Vegas related. Adding video dongles just makes things more unstable. That's why I went with Vegas in version 3 vs Premiere to begin with.

JJKizak wrote on 8/15/2017, 6:43 PM

I don't think I've met anyone (maybe one or two editors) who use Vegas "Pro", but have met many many many more who use the lower end lines. They don't need all the extra features I want.

And I want full, 10 point touch screen support. I find it silly tablet programs can support this but windows 8/10 programs can't. I should be able to use my touch screen to do multiple things at once in Vegas.

I also find my version VERY stable. I said in another post, most of my issues have been non-Vegas related. Adding video dongles just makes things more unstable. That's why I went with Vegas in version 3 vs Premiere to begin with.


A lot of older people are reviled by the touch screen syndrome. That means they don't like it and the operating system that revels in it, namely Windows 10.

JJK

igniz-krizalid wrote on 8/15/2017, 8:07 PM

- - - I also think that they spend too much energy on Vegas Movie Studio. This is absolutely useless product. I'm sure its sales are very low.

If you're referring to the basic Vegas Movie Studio, I'd agree somewhat. OTOH, if you're referring to VMS Platinum, that would be a gross exaggeration.


No, He can't be serious, Platinum has alwyas been a great product 👍

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MSI X370 Pro Carbon, R7 1800X, OC Nitro RX 480 4Gb, 2X8GB DDR4 3200 CL 14, 850 EVO 500GB SSD, Dark Rock 3 cooler, Dark Power Pro 11 650W Platinum, Serenade PciE CM8888 Sound Card, MultiSync 1200p IPS 16:10 monitor, Windows 10 Pro 64bit

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glovercover wrote on 8/16/2017, 1:20 AM

No, He can't be serious, Platinum has alwyas been a great product 👍

I understand your point of view! Now only one good product is needed. I think it makes no sense to spend a lot of resources on VMS, when Vegas Pro is still so far from perfect.

And the main thing is that now there are a lot of good video editors of entry level.
And again, Davinci Resolve free, now its so good and you can just download it! I'm always on the Vegas side, but you need to look critically at things. We always adhere to logic, pay less - receive more! And nothing can be done about this.