Vegas Pro 21.0 Still crashing

John-Vere wrote on 4/12/2024, 1:49 PM

 

I have been using Movie Studio Platinum 17 since it came out, before that 14. I really liked everything about it except the fact it would crash during editing.I had to save as I worked so as to not lose work. I even upgraded my Computer to way higher specs and a recommended Video card. Rendering really sped up but the crashes remained the same. I got an offer to upgrade to version 2023. This was not even the same software?? Waste of money as it seemed to be a stripped down editor.It is not Vegas.

I continued using 17 and losing a lot of work. I logged on the web site to ask about this and noticed there was a demo for Vegas Pro so I downloaded it and was surprised to see it looked exactly like MS 17. I couldn't save any work so I bought it. It still crashes and it's actually missing a few functions like the Power user mode. Picture in picture. And now I exported my first movie which is only 6 minutes long and it took 20 minutes!!! The same movie takes 2 minutes in MS 17. I tested. And you can't set up renders to be saved with the project. Is crashing something other people experience?

Please tell me It's just my settings! Which I tried to copy from MS17 but things all look different and certain boxes that were there are not now. Thank you.

 

Comments

RogerS wrote on 4/13/2024, 7:59 AM

I wouldn't copy settings over from MS17.

What do you mean about Picture in Picture being missing- the Fx? It's there under Video Fx.

You can choose whatever folder you like for the render to go into.
How fast it goes in part depends on settings. What's your GPU? GPU encodes like NVENC or VCE can be quite fast (~3x faster than Mainconcept/CPU only).

If you think something's wrong with your settings feel free to try one or both of the render benchmarks in my signature. See if you get times that are similar to other users with the same hardware.

John-Vere wrote on 4/13/2024, 11:25 AM

Thank you for your reply I really do appreciate it.

Picture in Picture was a track inserted along with 5 others as part of a default blank project. I never paid attention but you are correct and I just opened MS 17 and there Is a tiny little fx icon on the picture in picture track and when you open it I now understand it was just an effect.

I think this is the difference between versions. Movie Studio looks like vegas and I can follow any Vegas tutorial but I think Magix added/ changed some stuff like the "Make Movie" option.

And the folder issue I'm talking about is it seems it's not as straight forward to do the pathways as it was. See the see screenshot and you see there was a Box you checked that automatically put everything in a folder including the renders. As a matter of fact the whole create a new project dialogue is not as user friendly ( well to me) in Vegas 21. So as I say, possibly Vegas 21 is they way it always was and I was assuming Movie Studio and Vegas were the same program, seems not. Best I start watching the Tutorials. Any recommendations are appreciated.

I attached a few screenshots of my specs and settings for further comments and help.

 

Former user wrote on 4/13/2024, 11:58 AM

@John-Vere Hi,

  • Magix had a program called Magix Movie Edit / Magix Movie Edit Pro, (MEP) I got my first version about 2004.
  • Vegas Movie Studio (VMS) was Sony.
  • Magix bought VMS on 24 May 2016, that was pretty much the end of VMS,
  • 'MAGIX released Vegas Pro 14 on 20 September 2016'
  • In 2021 Magix rebranded MEP & called it Magix Movie Studio (MMS),
  • From then on it seems people with VMS get directed to MMS as an upgrade just as you did, you're certainly not the only one to get duped by this, as you've found MMS is a totally different program to VMS / VP & has never been related. This is Magix playing slight of hand 😒
  • Carry on with Vegas Pro 21 👍
vkmast wrote on 4/13/2024, 4:29 PM

Magix bought VMS on 24 May 2016, that was pretty much the end of VMS,

MAGIX bought then most Sony Creative Software products (incl. Movie Studios)

MAGIX released 4 new versions of VMS / VMSP / VMSS

V.14 announced 2/21/2017, 2 patches

V.15 announced 2/26/2018, 3 patches

V.16 announced 2/11/2019, 4 patches (VMSP), 3 patches (VMS)

V.17 announced 4/27/2020, 4 patches, last update 7/6/2021

The product line announced discontinued 7/15 /2021

(The 1st "Vegas Movie Studio" (v.4.0) was released 2004)

Movie Studio 18 vs. VEGAS Movie Studio

it seems people with VMS get directed to MMS as an upgrade

[INFORMATION] Movie Studio 18 

And currently here:

RogerS wrote on 4/13/2024, 9:54 PM

Thank you for your reply I really do appreciate it.

Picture in Picture was a track inserted along with 5 others as part of a default blank project. I never paid attention but you are correct and I just opened MS 17 and there Is a tiny little fx icon on the picture in picture track and when you open it I now understand it was just an effect.

I think this is the difference between versions. Movie Studio looks like vegas and I can follow any Vegas tutorial but I think Magix added/ changed some stuff like the "Make Movie" option.

And the folder issue I'm talking about is it seems it's not as straight forward to do the pathways as it was. See the see screenshot and you see there was a Box you checked that automatically put everything in a folder including the renders. As a matter of fact the whole create a new project dialogue is not as user friendly ( well to me) in Vegas 21. So as I say, possibly Vegas 21 is they way it always was and I was assuming Movie Studio and Vegas were the same program, seems not. Best I start watching the Tutorials. Any recommendations are appreciated.

I attached a few screenshots of my specs and settings for further comments and help.

 

You and I have fairly similar systems- I have a 13600K CPU and NVIDIA 2080 GPU.

Your project and file io settings look good.

Movie Studio and VEGAS are basically the same program, MS just had some shortcuts to simplify things for users.

Start with the welcome screen, set your project framerate and resolution and then save it somewhere. You can point renders to the same folder if you like when you get to the render dialogue.

For picture in picture you can still add media to a track and then customize the track view to show the track Fx, track motion, etc. Apply Pip to the track and it will act like MS (I think, haven't used your version).

For renders try MagixAVC with NVENC to start with and use the default settings for your desired resolution and framerate (1080p30, etc.).