VEGAS Pro 21 first update information

VEGASDerek wrote on 11/3/2023, 6:12 AM

Hello everyone...the VEGAS team is hoping to release the first update for VEGAS Pro 21 sometime next week. Here is a sneak peek at the change list for the update.

New Features:  

  • AV1 decoding 
  • AV1 rendering 
  • New button to toggle the behavior of the spacebar during playback 
  • Add scripting access for Adjustment Events 
  • GPU support in the Offset and Wrap plugin 
  • Improve Smart Mask point generation to be more efficient 
  • Mocha Pro integration, matching Mocha VEGAS behavior 

Improvements and Bug fixes: 

  • Automatically close the FX window when the last plugin is removed from the chain 
  • Starting VEGAS from a file that was removed from VEGAS Content will no longer cause a crash 
  • Updates and improvements for the MXHEVC Plugin 
  • Improvements for the update service 
  • Improvements to the Hub login for Text-to-Speech 
  • The navigation buttons in the Explorer window now work properly 
  • Added an email address field in the crash dialog 
  • Fixed a crash which may occur in the update service when VEGAS is opened and closed repeatedly 
  • Fixed sizing issues in the UI for some VST plugins 
  • Explorer window no longer glitches with the first media file selected 
  • Improvements to the Offset and Wrap plugin 
  • Improvements to the Mocha VEGAS exchange while creating Bézier masks 
  • Fixed crash which may occur when trying to add unsupported media after the hardware detection process fails 
  • Improvements to the OFX Interacts for third party plugins 
  • Fixed problem where OFX Interacts did not show up when Titles and Text is reopened 
  • Fixed problem in 2D parameters for OFX plugins where full range is not properly used 
  • Fixed Undo/Redo history problems with Mocha VEGAS 
  • Fixed a crash which may occur when using Shot Detection 
  • Fixed a crash which occurred when scrolling the horizontal or vertical scrollbars in some displays 
  • Custom templates in the ATRAC renderer now work as expected 
  • Added proper support for different pixel configurations in OFX plugins 
  • Alpha channel is now better handled in the Z-Depth plugin 
  • AC-3 files now will always import into VEGAS at their proper length 
  • Fixed a crash which may occur when reading some specific Go-Pro files 
  • Improve balance of performance and memory usage for some Intel CPU and GPU decoders 
  • Add support for UNIX style path names in the script API 
  • Fixed problem with proper color output from the REZup FX when it is placed before Pan/Crop in the plugin chain 
  • Now properly support all media with MPEG audio 
  • Improved performance and responsiveness of VST plugins when editing envelopes 
  • Resizable VST plugins now fill the entire FX window when it is being resized 
  • Fixed long delay on startup which may occur on some systems 
  • Fixed crash which may occur when building an audio FX chain 
  • Fixed crash which could occur when initializing the VEGAS Hub window 
  • Fixed crash that may occur in the plugin windows when rendering preview thumbnails for an effect 
  • Support for MKV files 
  • Fixed synchronization error which may occur when using some eFX plugins 
  • ProRes renders no longer have one of row and column of missing pixels 
  • Removed some AC3 templates that have not been supported for several years 
  • Fixed some display issues in the Update dialog when it opens on some High DPI monitors 
  • Preset label is now properly placed in High DPI environments 
  • UI improvements in the Mixing Console to display better in High DPI environments 
  • Fixed incorrect aspect ratio with some rendered ProRes files 
  • Automatically set Alpha Channel settings properly when an alpha channel is detected for PNG files 
  • Fixed the Min/Max range for the Beauty Box OFX plugin 
  • Fixed problem where blue mask outlines disappear when performing an Undo after a Create Mask operation 
  • Better handling of alpha background by Adjustment Events 
  • Improved Keyframe interpolation for the Z-Depth plugin 
  • Corrected some improper color conversion for some media 
  • Track headers for audio tracks now properly show "In" and "Out" in High DPI environments 
  • Improved Slow Motion OFX plugin 
  • Fixed potential freeze or crash in the MP3 plugin 
  • Fixed crash which may occur when using the color corrector plugin 
  • Fixed display problem with OFX plugins that contain a 2D position parameter 
  • Changed the Preview Transport toolbar to include the Loop Playback button by default 
  • Editing with the Credit Roll plugin will no longer cause a hang 
  • Fixed issues with aspect ratio handling in the HEVC reader 
  • Undo in Smart Mask will no longer cause the application to hang 
  • Improvements for to the MXF reader to support a larger variety of files of this format 
  • Fixed resource leak related to UI assets 
  • Fixed crash which may occur for project file names which are very long 
  • Fixed High DPI display issues in the Audio FX window 
  • Auto Contrast function in the Color Grading panel no longer causes a crash 
  • Fixed UI problems in the VST Preferences window in localized versions 
  • Improved handling of MPEG media 
  • Fix crash which occurred when using Color Match plugin 
  • Now properly read Panasonic PX 270 camera MXF files 
  • Improved hardware selection for decoding 
  • Fix performance degradation associated with using the Color Grading Panel 
  • Improved download experience for VEGAS Content 
  • Wormhole VST now works properly in VEGAS 
  • Fixed crash caused by saving pre-rendered files to an invalid path 
  • Fixed a hang issue with the Nectar 3 Elements plugin 
  • Fixed Glitch with the Temperature slider in the White Balance controls on the Color Grading Panel 
  • Driver update utility now properly sees NVidia RTX 4000 series cards 
  • The Adjustment Event context menu now contains only options which are actually available for these type of events 
  • Fixed problem which causes Red and Blue to be swapped on AMD GPUs using recent drivers 
  • Fixed problem where some events will have a loud audio error in the final few frames 

 

Comments

RogerS wrote on 11/3/2023, 6:35 AM

In the future might it be possible to sort the fixes into categories like video, audio, online, general? It's a little overwhelming to have these as such a long list (though great to see how extensive the fixes are!)

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VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
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VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

MikeS wrote on 11/3/2023, 6:36 AM

>Mocha Pro integration
👍👍👍

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Reyfox wrote on 11/3/2023, 6:42 AM

Absolutely AWESOME!!

That is one impressive "fix list"!

AV1 render can't wait to see if it works on my computer build.

"red/blue" swap in Vegas Pro is now fixed for AMD drivers!! YEA!!! Using AMD's latest 23.11.1 right now with Vegas Pro 21. I guess I can wean myself off of the "old reliable" 22.5.1!

Stability in the way I edit is great now! I have edited for several hours without any crashes so can't wait to check out the stability! Editing 4K 50P and using Boris FX, Vegas Color Panel, Vegas Titles and Text, and using keyboard shortcuts where I can.

I haven't tried the Smart Mask yet, but have something I want to try it out on.

Much appreciate the hard work and the "listening" of the devs to the problems and issues reported in the forum.

Thanks!! 😁

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VEGASDerek wrote on 11/3/2023, 6:49 AM

In the future might it be possible to sort the fixes into categories like video, audio, online, general? It's a little overwhelming to have these as such a long list

I will consider doing this for future updates.

J-Toresen wrote on 11/3/2023, 7:00 AM

This is really an impressive list! Probably the most extensive since I started using Vegas 4 or 5, I can’ remember.

Jøran Toresen

VEGASDerek wrote on 11/3/2023, 7:05 AM

@J-Toresen This update is a little low on features, but we do have some major stuff in progress right now. We felt we could not successfully get the new features done unless we really focused on getting the app more stable first. We are really hoping this update will prove to be a very positive one for our users.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/3/2023, 8:12 AM

Yes, the list is impressive. But what I like more are the improved stability that I have seen in some tests, and the consequent way how Vegas is improved - and will be improved further.

Well done!

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JJKizak wrote on 11/3/2023, 8:18 AM

Wow.

JJK

J-Toresen wrote on 11/3/2023, 9:36 AM

@VEGASDerek

The most important thing is that you and your team concentrate on improvements and bug fixes. New features are less important if people experience crashes, slow responses etc. And we are all looking forward to the new video engine. Continue the important work!

Jøran Toresen

NoKi wrote on 11/3/2023, 9:46 AM

"Automatically close the FX window when the last plugin is removed from the chain"

BTW, can this unexpected behaviour be switched off? Makes me mad, to always have to reopen the FX window, when I accidentally remove the last plugin.

RogerS wrote on 11/3/2023, 9:56 AM

"Automatically close the FX window when the last plugin is removed from the chain"

BTW, can this unexpected behaviour be switched off? Makes me mad, to always have to reopen the FX window, when I accidentally remove the last plugin.

The fix is to the strange behavior where a non-operable Fx window stays open after the last audio Fx is removed. It never used to be like that and takes a click to close it.

I see your point about it going back to the plugin chooser after the last audio Fx is removed and that could be useful. Video Fx stay open because pan/crop is there.

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VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

bitman wrote on 11/3/2023, 1:49 PM

I am looking forward to the update!

And please do not let us wait too long for future updates and bug fixes; I am sure the fixes can be delivered to us in smaller, but more frequent updates. (e.g. Topaz video ai)

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Robert Johnston wrote on 11/3/2023, 3:11 PM

"Automatically close the FX window when the last plugin is removed from the chain"

BTW, can this unexpected behaviour be switched off? Makes me mad, to always have to reopen the FX window, when I accidentally remove the last plugin.

I would like the FX window to stay open, also. I thought that keeping it open was a great fix.

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RogerS wrote on 11/3/2023, 8:03 PM

"Automatically close the FX window when the last plugin is removed from the chain"

BTW, can this unexpected behaviour be switched off? Makes me mad, to always have to reopen the FX window, when I accidentally remove the last plugin.

I would like the FX window to stay open, also. I thought that keeping it open was a great fix.

It never stayed open for audio Fx.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Robert Johnston wrote on 11/3/2023, 11:34 PM

"Automatically close the FX window when the last plugin is removed from the chain"

BTW, can this unexpected behaviour be switched off? Makes me mad, to always have to reopen the FX window, when I accidentally remove the last plugin.

I would like the FX window to stay open, also. I thought that keeping it open was a great fix.

It never stayed open for audio Fx.

The video FX are used ten thousand times more than audio fx.

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Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro

RogerS wrote on 11/3/2023, 11:58 PM

There is no change for video Fx, because pan/crop is there you the window doesn't close after the last Fx is removed. To see the bug try adding and removing a VST.

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Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

john_dennis wrote on 11/4/2023, 12:12 AM

@Robert Johnston

That Shirley is meant to be hyperbole. I’ve done projects with no video fX. I never do projects without an audio fX.

”Don’t call me Shirley!”

bitman wrote on 11/4/2023, 4:07 AM

@john_dennis I rarely use audio FX, just out of curiosity which audio FX do you use frequently? One can never be too old to learn more and expand your skills!

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EricLNZ wrote on 11/4/2023, 4:57 AM

”Don’t call me Shirley!”

@john_dennis Who is Shirley (apart from being the name of a personal friend) and where does she fit in?

Dexcon wrote on 11/4/2023, 5:10 AM

Who is Shirley?

@EricLNZ ... It would have to be a reference to a line regularly spoken by Leslie Neilsen in the super-funny 1980 "Airplane" feature film ("Flying High" in Australia and maybe in NZ as well). It would go something like this:

Character (US accent) "Surely you can't be serious?"

Leslie Neilsen: "Yes I am ... and don't call be Shirley"

There's many great lines from "Airplane": https://www.ranker.com/list/best-airplane-movie-quotes/movie-and-tv-quotes

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EricLNZ wrote on 11/4/2023, 5:17 AM

@Dexcon Thanks I'd never come across "Airplane". Perhaps "Shirley" was an earlier version of "Karen".

Perhaps it's a suitable time to remind forum members that we are an international community and your local slang and sayings may be lost on others. Especially to members who aren't fluent with English and rely on translators to make posts and read replies.

Dexcon wrote on 11/4/2023, 5:26 AM

Perhaps "Shirley" was an earlier version of "Karen".

I took it as a play on the pronunciation of words. In the film, the US-twanged pronunciation of "surely" sounded much the same as "Shirley". IMO, "Airplane/Flying High" was a screwball comedy on steroids.

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vkmast wrote on 11/4/2023, 5:45 AM

@Dexcon @EricLNZ surely you know of this "recent" thread from 2010 (created by @Grazie): https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/ot-and-stop-calling-me-shirley-leslie-nielsen--81493/

Btw, the first of the 60+ occurrences of "Shirley" here seems to be from 2003 (in a comment by guess who?).

Sorry for the OT, we shirley should be able to split threads (or think twice 😇).

Grazie wrote on 11/4/2023, 6:31 AM

@vkmast - Aw man!! Thanks for the walk down memory trail, avenue, track…. Oh yeah, Lane! And look at all those individuals no longer appearing hereabouts.

TAXI!