I suspect that is HB's name for the bundle that they are offering, but I must admit that it suggests that buyers are going to get the current release of VP.
As FayFen says, "And if you are still on any old VMS version, the time has come". This is a bargain entry into the Vegas Pro world and especially if VP upgrade pricing is available to purchasers of this HB offer.
"HumbleBundle buyers receive a standard serial number. They can register it in the MAGIX account. So, they can order an upgrade directly in the MAGIX Shop and authorize with this registered product."
I'm not aware of any change in this policy.
"VEGAS Pro 2022" is indeed a bit misleading, perhaps intentionally. VEGAS Pro 18 Edit is the one (current) VEGAS product in the bundle.
I see inconsistencies with Mercalli, as version 5 is offered, but version 4 is shown. It's also not clear to me if it has a Vegas Pro plugin, or is just a SAL version. It is only a 2 year version is - but well, in 2 years there will probably be HB action again.
All in all whining on a high level - at that price!
I got it and tried it and ended up uninstalling like 20 minutes later. Bunch of crashes and some hard freezes, and I wasn't even doing work in it.
I was more interested in the Optical Flow in something a bit lighter than Resolve where I could just throw a clip on the timeline, slow it down and render it out... but the render times are still unreasonably long unless you're using a GPU (and paying for it in quality) and the "Clip Analysis" took forever.
Plus, the actual slow motion looked like poop. This was sports footage, though, not stock footage like some people on YouTube seemed to have tested it on. The interpolation in Video Pro X12 looked better, so it probably has something to do with the algorithm they are using not working well with the type of footage that I fed it; which wouldn't change... so it ended up not being of much use to me.
One good thing that I did notice (and did test) was the HitFilm Pro 16 from past Humble Bundle integrates with this version of VEGAS Pro. So, you basicaly get most of VEGAS Post (and an updated VEGAS Effects, effectively) by combining the two. Most people who watch HB will already have - at least - Sound Forge Pro 13, as well, and many will have TotalFX 7 (Titler Pro 7, etc.), because that was bundled with Movie Studio for a ridiculously low price a while back.
So, you actually have a fairly nice suite of creative apps if you combine these - and VEGAS Pro 18 can sort of act as a "Hub" for all of it.
Former user
wrote on 12/11/2022, 3:59 PM
Mercalli 6 is the latest for Vegas/Magix. I have the standalone V6, which is more than enough for me.
Humble Bundle is how I got introduced to Vegas. It was VP14 Edit. After 2 weeks, upgraded to VP15 Suite and haven't looked back.
VP18 was very stable for the editing I was doing. MS2022, well, it edits differently. Sort of upside down.
I really like Video Pro X (v12 was on Humble Bundle earlier this year, and 11 a year or two ago). It performs well and it's fast. I just wish it had a bit better OpenFX compatibility. It's a lot more stable than VEGAS, though. MAGIX really has users between a rock and a hard place with how many overlapping product lines it has.
Former user
wrote on 12/11/2022, 4:22 PM
I was more interested in the Optical Flow in something a bit lighter than Resolve where I could just throw a clip on the timeline, slow it down and render it out... but the render times are still unreasonably long unless you're using a GPU (and paying for it in quality) and the "Clip Analysis" took forever.
Plus, the actual slow motion looked like poop. This was sports footage, though, not stock footage like some people on YouTube seemed to have tested it on. The interpolation in Video Pro X12 looked better, so it probably has something to do with the algorithm they are using not working well with the type of footage that I fed it; which wouldn't change... so it ended up not being of much use to me.
@Former user I think it's bugs. definitely has a problem with 'scene changes' I tried 4 clips edited together, 1 and 4 worked as good as Vegas can do, with 2 and 4 being bugged out and looking terrible. A scene change isn't necessarily a new shot, but a shot that has changed. It seems that optical slow motion needs to do a form of lookahead and adapts for that scene, but a new scene doesn't trigger any adaption until seemingly the following scene.
..Or it seemed that way with my limited testing, It can work well, but has to be the perfect scene for vegas, perspective changes seems to break it
I really like Video Pro X (v12 was on Humble Bundle earlier this year, and 11 a year or two ago). It performs well and it's fast. I just wish it had a bit better OpenFX compatibility. It's a lot more stable than VEGAS, though. MAGIX really has users between a rock and a hard place with how many overlapping product lines it has.
Video Pro X is basically just a simple editing software. Its composite functionality is rather weak. It doesn't even have a basic blending mode. But if its current function can satisfy you, it is a good decision to choose it. But I believe its composite function can't satisfy many professional users.
Former user
wrote on 12/11/2022, 5:36 PM
@lan-mLMC I had a look at the version which first got it's new render engine a few years ago, to check how well it performed, they're now on their 2nd even more improved render engine with V14, meanwhile Vegas is still on the original from a decade+ ago. I also concluded it was not pro enough, and it has an eye watering price for what it is. Great performance, poor feature set, and you get that same performance in Movie Studio2022 but unfortunately less features again
There "pluses" and "minuses" to any software. I have VPX12. Bought it out of curiosity on HB. It's nice for what it is, the price was great) and it has some nice pre-canned features that can speed up editing for some types of projects. It's timeline playback is really good. But, if you go to their forum and read about VPX13 and 14, you'd think people would start looking for another editor. In addition, it edits upside down, with main video track on top and "overlays" under the main track. I can do that for a few tracks, but when I am up to 20 tracks, my one cell brain finds it hard to work in that way. No "pro" editor works that way.
As for timeline editing, Vegas is clearly faster. Compositing is also much easier. And OFX plugins just work better. Much better. Did I mention MUCH better? And Magix MS can't even handle 10bit video, while others like Pinnacle and VideoStudio Pro do without any problems.
Rendering engine for Vegas was improved when they added AMD VCE support, which I make use of. No, Vegas it not the speedster in rendering, but it's quite good enough for "me". Heck, I remember rendering videos overnight way back in the day, hoping when you wake up, there will be no problems during the night.
Stability with VPX12 is really hit or miss. If you do "simple" editing, it will work ok. Start doing compositing, adding effects, especially OFX, you are looking for a freeze up for sure.
I'm an advocate of using the best tool for the job. If that tool for someone is VPX, go for it!
Oh, I can use Hitfilm Pro 2021.3 with Vegas 20 just as I did with Vegas 18.