My card stay stock speed and CPU OCed 4.ghz. Well, if you want to find out, you can search for me name and you will find a lot of sample videos and screen shot show that, you will see here on this forum no other system can perform like mine. At least I have not see it yet. While others will continue to say GTX this or RTX that. I am sitting here have a smiling face all the way to the bank. Why? because its a joys to edit with it.

My card stay stock speed and CPU OCed 4.ghz. Well, if you want to find out, you can search for me name and you will find a lot of sample videos and screen shot show that, you will see here on this forum no other system can perform like mine. At least I have not see it yet. While others will continue to say GTX this or RTX that. I am sitting here have a smiling face all the way to the bank. Why? because its a joys to edit with it.

So your saying even other AMD card owners are seeing similar results to us. And yours is totally unique. But what is making it so? Is it that particular card just works so sweetly with Vegas? Need to get hold of an AMD card to try it out.

Interesting watching windows task manager. The frames in the Vegas preview process when the gpu is in a state of "3d" and the render pauses for that half second when its in 'encoding'. Cant seem to do both at the same time.

I only got it after research and how the concensus was that Nvidia and Vegas were a better match.

I don’t think that this is the concensus, it always and still is that AMD cards fair better in Vegas. However, some 3rd party plug ins prefer CUDA. I know the NVIDIA users here will say differently and post links to all sorts of benchmark programs but those just don’t reflect the true picture.

Many users will also never acknowledge that brands make difference, the spec card from two different brands will behave differently.

It also seems that Bruce’s combination of AMD CPU and GPU just hit the sweet spot.

Heres an example of why its looking more like the Vegas implementation needs work.

2 screenshots. Both are a take a simple 10 min video and re-encode it as H.265 using NVENC. Handbrake finished in 1min 20 seconds and vegas over 4 mins. No effects. Just re-encode. As you can see, vegas is doing the stop start thing I mentioned while handbrake just blazes through.

Handbrake

Vegas Pro 16

I do realise vegas is doing a render and encode and handbrake is a simple transcode but the stop start looks like something is processing before it hands off to NVENC to then encode. anyway, ive opend a support ticket. Let hope that can fix it and it's not a vegas 17 exclusive :)

Edit: Just installed windows 10 and vegas on another hard drive and nothing else. Just those 2 to make sure it wasnt any other software or drivers or anything. Results are the same. @BruceUSA has indeed found the sweet spot that lets him maximize his resources. We just need Magix to figure out why and try and get that to the rest of us.

Heres an example of why its looking more like the Vegas implementation needs work.

2 screenshots. Both are a take a simple 10 min video and re-encode it as H.265 using NVENC. Handbrake finished in 1min 20 seconds and vegas over 4 mins. No effects. Just re-encode. As you can see, vegas is doing the stop start thing I mentioned while handbrake just blazes through.

I have a slower older i7, and with nvenc encode in handbraake I am limited by CPU (100%) & there's none of the pausing seen with vegas. for the 720p files I often work with I get an average of 225fps with handbrake & 50fps with VegasPro. This corresponds to 20% 'gpu encode' for handbrake, and 5% for vegaspro15

Do people using Vegas with VCE hardware encoding get the pause? It would seem Bruce doesn't.

Looking at swapping my gpu. Anyone using an RX Vega 56 or 64 have any first hand experience they can share?

@bob-h so you get the pausing too?

Yeah. I think it's a problem related to nvenc, maybe other hardware encoding as well. The 5% 'gpu encode' is low due to the increased latency. The 5% being an average including the pauses.

The fast render - brief stop - fast render - brief stop - fast render - (and so continuously until all is rendered!) is something I have (and always had) as well with my rig (see signature). I had this with my old 1080ti, and with my newer RTX2080ti, all drivers and different mobo's chipsets and CPU's, memory and other components and this for Vegas 15 and 16.

I also tried to find bottlenecks, including disk, ssd, but could not find any, and anyway the system HW & sw was different over the years anyway.

Apart from that I am still happy with NVIDEA, as I also use my rig a lot for gaming. As OldSmoke correctly points out, some plugins are optimized for Nvidea. It is amazing that there is only 1 nvenc core in the RTX 2080ti versus 2 nvenc cores in the older GTX 1080ti whilst the render speed is faster with the RTX...

One thing that annoys me, is the silence on behalve of Magix on what would be the maximum performance hardware configuration of a "golden Vegas machine"..., an unbiased honest opinion from the magix experts themselves, that is what I want.

Thanks @bitman. Not just me then.Even the Quadro RTX cards have one NVENC engine but unlimited sessions. You can patch your drivers to remove the artificial NVENC session limit. Lets you run more than 2 concurrant NVENC renders.

@mintyslippers for me personaly 2 renders is already one to much! But it is good to know you can up it, although other than benchmarking & stressing your system I do not see too many real life use cases unless your render needs outweigh your edit needs. I do not see that happening any soon with me (I am years behind editing my vacation video's!).

Just to confirm that my results still seriously disappointing like a lot of others GPU as well as CPU hardly loaded in either preview or render processes. Previews of M2TS 3D footage in just HD (1080 25i) as well as some other formats with Preview in "Full, Best" stuttering, having to drop to lower resolutions (tried all normal and hidden settings suggestions ).

Hardware

Having given up editing on my I7 quad core mobile workstation, unbearably slow and despite being disappointed with Magix behaviour (all my 3D videos on Sony camcorders with 5.1 surround sound are now silent on Vegas pro 17 as they predicated AC3 support - have raised a ticked but so far no joy - another thread apologies).

Invested after a lot of research in new hardware, motherboard Gigabyte z490 Aorus master , 64GB memory and 2 x M.2 PCie ssd's. GPU Aorus rtx2070 super , CPU I7-10700k 8 core 16 threads (wanted I9-10900k but couldn't get any) etc.

Fell for Magix's sell speak, spending money with every update in the hope that these issues would be resolved only to get half cooked updates. I used Twixtor to change frame rates, Vegas pro 17 claimed that they now offer this as fluid slow motion, IMHO no comparison with Twixtor (and my Twixtor 6 will no longer work with 17 so need to spend more to upgrade to Twixtor 7) and stabiliser no comparison to the ProDad Mercally stabiliser .

I am at the stage of abandoning Vegas but not sure which other editing software in similar price range is superior than Vegas, (migrated from Power director to Adobe Premier pro (decades ago) to Movie studio platinum 13 then finally to Sony Vegas pro at rev 14, so not familiar to latest developments. Not to mention migrating pains as not able to import project files across different software platforms.

Any good alternative SUGESTIONS? (from you professionals who are familiar with alternatives) which offer fast smooth previews, full hardware support (CPU-GPU loading) and fast renders?

 

Any good alternative SUGESTIONS (from you professionals who are familiar with alternatives) which offer fast smooth previews, full hardware support (CPU-GPU loading) and fast renders?

Just a reminder: We are a guest of Vegas Creative Software in this forum and you are seriously asking for better alternatives?
It is similar to sitting in a pastry shop and asking the waiter which pastry shop has better cakes ........

Hello. I have a problem with SVP 18. My videos (usually around 10 min) render in over an hour when nothing is running in the background. I tried everything that i cold find and nothing. Even got SVP 16 and that didn't help. I have a Pentium G4560 (dual core 3.5GHz) GTX 1060 3GB and 8GB DDR4 2666MgHz RAM. when I render my CPU is going 100% and RAM at 50% despite I let SVP use 6GB and my GPU is at 1% or 5% at most even though I use GPU render enabled. So how do i fix this issue? Also my preview is really bad. Draft-Quarter and still lagging (also did what i cold to fix).

Hello. I have a problem with SVP 18. My videos (usually around 10 min) render in over an hour when nothing is running in the background. I tried everything that i cold find and nothing. Even got SVP 16 and that didn't help. I have a Pentium G4560 (dual core 3.5GHz) GTX 1060 3GB and 8GB DDR4 2666MgHz RAM. when I render my CPU is going 100% and RAM at 50% despite I let SVP use 6GB and my GPU is at 1% or 5% at most even though I use GPU render enabled. So how do i fix this issue? Also my preview is really bad. Draft-Quarter and still lagging (also did what i cold to fix).

 

Use Voukoder when exporting. allocating 6GB Ram in vegas do nothing in rendering, it uses for creating quick preview for hefty timeline.

Hello. I have a problem with SVP 18. My videos (usually around 10 min) render in over an hour when nothing is running in the background. I tried everything that i cold find and nothing. Even got SVP 16 and that didn't help. I have a Pentium G4560 (dual core 3.5GHz) GTX 1060 3GB and 8GB DDR4 2666MgHz RAM. when I render my CPU is going 100% and RAM at 50% despite I let SVP use 6GB and my GPU is at 1% or 5% at most even though I use GPU render enabled. So how do i fix this issue? Also my preview is really bad. Draft-Quarter and still lagging (also did what i cold to fix).

Lets continue the conversation in the thread you created here
Try to include information about the media you are using and Fx.

Pentium 2 core. Those were around in the days of dv & hdv. Maybe mp4 is too much for the processor. Maybe transpose to .avi.

Edit: @RogerS Note discontinued. Thanks for link.

Processor appears to be from 2017 link