Moving multiple tracks from one group of tracks to another

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mark-y wrote on 3/8/2024, 11:51 AM

I don't mean to be catty but it is frustrating, I buy the program, download, install, and have lot of troubles. Lots of crashes, can move between tracks, the story board is constantly turning blue for reasons I don't know, things delete, very unstable. I have a 13 gen I-7 with 12 core, 32 GB memory, 4 nvme drive 2 TB each, so lots of power. I see a lot of videos of how to do things but for some reason it is a real pain in the butt to get anything done for me. And as I just install it and don't know much about the options I don't know how to make mistakes and mess things up. Frustrating. I was told this was the really pro software instead of VPX but for me it is a mess, and no idea why. I just want to add track, splice them as wanted, adjust the color and audio, and render. But I can spend hours having it crash and not do things, or hesitating like 3-4 minutes and then it will move an object. Got no viruses or anything like that. Don't know what to say.

I can relate to displacing your frustration -- I do it too at times.

But you have a previously undocumented problem. If there was a bug with the software in this respect, it would have shown up multiple times by now.

I am unable to duplicate your issue in any of the four Vegas versions I own.

If I was to guess, I think your events are locked.

Feel free to file a ticket with Vegas Technical Support if our peer user efforts aren't helpful. We are unpaid volunteers and are sometimes a bit naïve.

jetdv wrote on 3/8/2024, 12:01 PM

@Douglas-McCarron if you'd show us a video showing what you are doing/seeing then we could, possibly, see why it's not working for you. As you can see in the video I posted, it works fine.

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/8/2024, 1:28 PM

Ok I will try to figure out how to screen video it

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/8/2024, 1:28 PM

I don't mean to be catty but it is frustrating, I buy the program, download, install, and have lot of troubles. Lots of crashes, can move between tracks, the story board is constantly turning blue for reasons I don't know, things delete, very unstable. I have a 13 gen I-7 with 12 core, 32 GB memory, 4 nvme drive 2 TB each, so lots of power. I see a lot of videos of how to do things but for some reason it is a real pain in the butt to get anything done for me. And as I just install it and don't know much about the options I don't know how to make mistakes and mess things up. Frustrating. I was told this was the really pro software instead of VPX but for me it is a mess, and no idea why. I just want to add track, splice them as wanted, adjust the color and audio, and render. But I can spend hours having it crash and not do things, or hesitating like 3-4 minutes and then it will move an object. Got no viruses or anything like that. Don't know what to say.

I can relate to displacing your frustration -- I do it too at times.

But you have a previously undocumented problem. If there was a bug with the software in this respect, it would have shown up multiple times by now.

I am unable to duplicate your issue in any of the four Vegas versions I own.

If I was to guess, I think your events are locked.

Feel free to file a ticket with Vegas Technical Support if our peer user efforts aren't helpful. We are unpaid volunteers and are sometimes a bit naïve.

I have, they give me the instructions I am using, that is where I got them from.

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/8/2024, 1:29 PM

Well anyway, don't mean to be a bummer. Apparently there is some setting I don't know about.

Candive wrote on 3/8/2024, 8:07 PM

So @Douglas-McCarron am I to assume @mark-y solved the mystery and you had locked your events? If that is the case, congratulations @mark-y and thank you for taking the time to go through 4 versions of the software to eventually isolate the problem and reach your conclusion. I would also like to personally thank you since I learned something new about Switches which I knew nothing about previously. This was a good educational introduction for me. 🙂 Thanks again!!

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/9/2024, 9:16 PM

I see a screen shot of switches, but I have no idea what a switch is or what that is a screen shot of. I don't see a reference to any menu thing to click. Or is this under options?

 

THank you

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/9/2024, 9:31 PM

I will try will Candive said on Sunday.

 

I do thank you all for trying to assist me even if I am bitching here.

So the only things I can think that might be "odd" is while I edit

-- I have youtube on playing music

-- When I started the project I loaded up all the video and audio tracks that were going to be used as I was splicing between them all. This made a timeline about 7.5 hours long. I then built the movie from them, then deleted all the unused sections. As I see that Vegas seems to be built on the assumption that it doesn't extend the timeline until you add something new this original load in may have gone outside the assumptions of the software and introduced some problems as I was effectively doing my work the opposite of how the program assumes. I didn't know this when I started, this is how I made movies in Video Pro X where I never had an issue.

-- Also I have a main video processor built into my motherboard plus I have an older GeoForce GTX 750 Ti which is several years to a decade old. It is in the computer because at the time I spent a few hundred dollars on it and I didn't want to let it go. It could be the motherboard and the GTX are fighting over things. However within the software every place I can find where there is a choice at the moment the GTX is selected. I have gone and made them all refer to the motherboard but have the same issue. So I went back to the GTX as though it is older it is dedicated.

 

That being said I will try what Candice said, and if you can tell me where to find the locking switch at I will look at that.

 

I get that the program can be fabulous. Just I am having trouble getting it to work without crashing or pausing.

 

Again thank you for you help and suggestions.

mark-y wrote on 3/9/2024, 10:39 PM

Douglas, The Event Context Menu containing the event "Switches" is accessed by right-clicking on an event.

I really suggest starting with the tutorials and experimenting with shorter projects before undertaking a longer production.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/got-questions-consult-the-tutorials-first-please--120282/

Vegas does have some problems that are being worked out, but your issue is not known to me.

Having exhausted all of my own experience with Vegas to help get you going, I will wish you good luck!

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/10/2024, 12:00 AM

I understand but there is so much to read when all I want to do is move some tracks. But I will explore them. I have looked at a lot of training videos but I guess there is a lot more than download program, install, get to work.

I did find the switches finally on the object. they are marked "Loop Event" Mute and Lock are not clicked. There is also "Maintain Aspect Ratio" and "Use Project Resample Mode".

I have also found a couple 4k mixed in with 1080P but not in the selections I am working on.

Well I guess I get to find issues to learn from, that is my contribution to the community. I do everything messed up to find things.

jetdv wrote on 3/10/2024, 7:52 AM
-- I have youtube on playing music

That won't affect moving events.

-- When I started the project I loaded up all the video and audio tracks that were going to be used as I was splicing between them all. This made a timeline about 7.5 hours long. I then built the movie from them, then deleted all the unused sections. As I see that Vegas seems to be built on the assumption that it doesn't extend the timeline until you add something new this original load in may have gone outside the assumptions of the software and introduced some problems as I was effectively doing my work the opposite of how the program assumes. I didn't know this when I started, this is how I made movies in Video Pro X where I never had an issue.

I do that too. In fact, that's what I did in the video example I used that showed how it does properly work.

-- Also I have a main video processor built into my motherboard plus I have an older GeoForce GTX 750 Ti which is several years to a decade old. It is in the computer because at the time I spent a few hundred dollars on it and I didn't want to let it go. It could be the motherboard and the GTX are fighting over things. However within the software every place I can find where there is a choice at the moment the GTX is selected. I have gone and made them all refer to the motherboard but have the same issue. So I went back to the GTX as though it is older it is dedicated.

That also will not affect moving events.

@Douglas-McCarron, why have you still not shown us what you are doing so we can better diagnose why it's not working in your exact specific case?

Dexcon wrote on 3/10/2024, 8:18 AM

I made a comment early on in this thread about how to highlight video and audio events and then move (drag) those events down to lower tracks - that event has inexplicably disappeared from this thread. Has a moderator removed my totally 'inoffensive' comment without any explanation to me as to why my comment was removed?

But overall, I find that this thread about how to move events from one track to another track - a simple process - has now reached 2 pages without an apparent satisfactory result for the OP to be incomprehensible. Given the number of suggestions, unfortunately, I don't think that the problem lies with the track-move process.

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mark-y wrote on 3/10/2024, 8:42 AM

I guess there is a lot more than download program, install, get to work.

You are correct. There is a learning curve, and it takes time. And diligence. Your expectations may be a factor. Took me a couple of years to wrap my brain around Vegas when I started in 2002, and I came with a commercial film background.

vkmast wrote on 3/10/2024, 12:44 PM

@Dexcon wrote

Has a moderator removed my totally 'inoffensive' comment without any explanation to me as to why my comment was removed?

I'm not aware of such a removal. Would this comment of yours in another thread be related: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-19-how-to-move-assets-to-a-new-track-newbie-question--144812/#ca907012

Dexcon wrote on 3/10/2024, 5:27 PM

@vkmast  ... yes, you are totally correct - it was on that other thread. I clearly got the similar topics mixed up - and I even looked through 'comments' in My Profile and couldn't find it or obviously just missed it.

Thank you for resolving this and apologies for my not searching my comments better and thus the inconvenience caused.

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Candive wrote on 3/11/2024, 3:01 AM

Hi @Dexcon
You answered my question which was essentially the same as this post. Your answer was clear and comprehensive which helped me understand the process. Thank you again. I participated in this post since I thought it would help the OP from the perspective of a new user and I even linked my post which contained your comments for the OP to read.

As for this thread being two pages long "incomprehensible", unfortunately the OP failed to inform forum members that he threw 7.5 hours of video and audio onto the timeline. I mean, what could go wrong?!😏

If this fact was known, I'm sure experienced members would have responded appropriately and succinctly. But what has impressed me most, as a new member to this forum, is the dedication, tenacity, empathy, respect and camaraderie displayed by experienced members like yourself. In this you should be very proud!!  
 

Candive wrote on 3/11/2024, 3:14 AM

Dear @Douglas-McCarron as one new user to Vegas Pro to another, I find your desire to edit a major project consisting of 7.5 hours of raw content using an unfamiliar video editor overly ambitious to say the least. Obviously this is an important project for you and not having the necessary skill and experience using Vegas Pro would naturally lead to frustration and personal disappointment.

Luckily, you are familiar with Video Pro X which is an application that appears to be able to handle your editing style and I must admit I'm amazed it can do the job. Because this project is so important to you, I personally suggest you complete it using Video Pro X. I'm not suggesting to drop Vegas Pro but obviously there is much more to learn before tackling such a large project with a new video editor.

I myself am currently working on a video project and will complete it using my current editor; Pinnacle Studio. I realise my limitations and to avoid any frustration and wasted time, common sense dictates this is the best approach to complete the project to meet its deadline. Once my video is finished, I'll then have the time to attempt to replicate it using Vegas Pro. This is an effective and efficient way to learn a new program. And to put it into perspective; my video project is only 4 minutes long; not 7.5 hours. 

All the best in completing your movie; its a pretty big job!

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/12/2024, 2:18 PM

Douglas, The Event Context Menu containing the event "Switches" is accessed by right-clicking on an event.

I really suggest starting with the tutorials and experimenting with shorter projects before undertaking a longer production.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/got-questions-consult-the-tutorials-first-please--120282/

Vegas does have some problems that are being worked out, but your issue is not known to me.

Having exhausted all of my own experience with Vegas to help get you going, I will wish you good luck!

As I have found the switches, I have as yet to get a complete explanation of them all. But it seems I have to select one switch. But these aren't locked that is for sure.

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/12/2024, 2:24 PM

Well I went to screen grab the problem and now it moved.

 

I am going to get a gun and shoot something.

 

Given the hesitation both vertically and horizontally I am going to guess the loading in every first and then removing as I used what I wanted and then deleting all unused objects at the end may be the issue as I have not heard of others having my issue and also they didn't do it the way I did. So I am guessing I overloaded some parameter of the software by loading in the 7.5 hours first.

The main reason I got vegas is there are some pro settings that can be used when rendering that are not available in Video Pro X, something filmhub and the like strongly request. I suppose I could build the film in VPX and export it as an mp4 and then render that in Vegas, but that is a step that might degrade the final product. But I don't know.

Next product I will do the add as I needed method and see how that goes.

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/17/2024, 12:50 AM

Jeeez, now when I mute a track everything gets muted. When I unmute the track everything gets unmuted. Jeez wth.

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 3/17/2024, 1:00 AM

And now it's not. Grrrr. Didn't click anything

RogerS wrote on 3/17/2024, 2:10 AM

It's not visually obvious but if they all get muted that means all the tracks were selected.

jetdv wrote on 3/17/2024, 7:37 AM

And now it's not. Grrrr. Didn't click anything

@Douglas-McCarron All SELECTED tracks will get the change. To make sure only one track gets it, make sure the other tracks are NOT selected (CTRL-SHIFT-A)

john-brown wrote on 3/17/2024, 8:25 AM

@Douglas-McCarron

Hi,

The main reason I got vegas is there are some pro settings that can be used when rendering that are not available in Video Pro X, something filmhub and the like strongly request.

For the sake of others reading this and who may be able to help you, from what you mentioned on the Magix.info forum, you are referring to the closed captioning requirements of Filmhub. VPX does not do closed captioning and doesn't have an export format that supports it. Vegas does.

In addition to editing your video, I believe that you will also have to create the closed captions, will you not? If so, then you will have to learn how to do that as well.

A suggestion, rather than trying to learn Vegas by doing a large project, do a small test project and go through everything that you need to do for Filmhub, upload it to their test site to see if everything works.

John CB

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