New nVidia Driver. Anybody tried it?

Grazie wrote on 8/30/2019, 9:47 AM

Hi VegMondies, here’s the latest edition driver:

https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/150585

Anyone tried it yet on their nVidia Cards?

TIA

G

Comments

j-v wrote on 8/30/2019, 9:54 AM

Vegas developpers said not to use the Gamedrivers because the new options are also made with( for) the latest Studio drivers.
Gamedrivers are being too often changed by options for gamers and not for editors

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Grazie wrote on 8/30/2019, 9:59 AM

Vegas developpers said not to use the Gamedrivers because the new options are also made with( for) the latest Studio drivers.
Gamedrivers are being too often changed by options for gamers and not for editors

@j-v - And yet, as a result of an official Support ticket, I got this “advice” from MAGIX. What’s what here? Do I or don’t I?

TIA

G

vkmast wrote on 8/30/2019, 10:02 AM

@j-v is referring to this comment from MagixDerek.

j-v wrote on 8/30/2019, 10:05 AM

What’s what here?

Yess I got also official Support of Magix because I think the deveopment team is too busy and let it handle by other Magix employees or the tickets goes to the wrong place.
To me they have given answers from which I could conclude they know nothing about Vegas video software.

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met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Grazie wrote on 8/30/2019, 10:26 AM

@vkmast & @vkmast & @VEGASDerek I am confused. Do I or don’t I?

j-v wrote on 8/30/2019, 10:35 AM

@vkmast & @vkmast & @VEGASDerek I am confused. Do I or don’t I?

For now I 'm not confused but against other messages about this kind of cases I think the integration of Vegas Creative software into Magix has still a long way to go.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

vkmast wrote on 8/30/2019, 10:42 AM

@vkmast & @vkmast & @MagixDerek I am confused. Do I or don’t I?

@Grazie I see you are indeed :). Cannot decide for you, but I'm listening to Derek.

Grazie wrote on 8/30/2019, 4:33 PM

@vkmast - Well, maybe @VEGASDerek needs to have a chat with the Support Chap who's pointed me at tthis Game Ready Driver:

 

Grazie wrote on 8/31/2019, 8:18 AM

@Sylk - Wow... didn’t think of that. Atrocious. But why does a MAGIX Support Agent invite/get me to D/L it? That’s a conspiracy too far for even me. Seriously, Derek says one thing and his very own Support person says another?

diverG wrote on 8/31/2019, 11:53 AM

Why not try the driver? Note your existing driver & roll back if you have problems. Don't expect it to render the Red car project. Xdcam(I)

 

Sys 1 Gig Z-890-UD, i9 285K @ 3.7 Ghz 64gb ram, 250gb SSD system, Plus 2x2Tb m2,  GTX 4060 ti, BMIP4k video out. Vegas 19 & V22(250), Edius 8.3WG and DVResolve19 Studio. Win 11 Pro. Latest graphic drivers.

Sys 2 Laptop 'Clevo' i7 6700K @ 3.0ghz, 16gb ram, 250gb SSd + 2Tb hdd,   nvidia 940 M graphics. VP19, Plus Edius 8WG Win 10 Pro (22H2) Resolve18

 

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/31/2019, 11:57 AM

drivers are working fine with VP17 and they are running my GTX1080Ti at reduced frequencies when in low demand.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Former user wrote on 8/31/2019, 1:53 PM

Maybe worth to mention about adding Magix in Nvidia Control Panel, in case some may have overlooked this step.

Techgage covers this in their latest look at VP17. https://techgage.com/article/magix-vegas-pro-17-cpu-gpu-performance/

Grazie wrote on 8/31/2019, 2:31 PM

@Former user - Please explain a bit fuller?

j-v wrote on 8/31/2019, 2:46 PM

That article is made by a person who does know not so much about modern cards and Vegas latest versions.
What do we get to allow CUDA?
What is the gaine of using Open GL on this subject or do I miss something?
That are for me the only 2 settings where you can choose not the default setting of Nvidia's choice at installation of its driver.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Grazie wrote on 8/31/2019, 2:58 PM

@Former user I know you’re a good communicator, but the crucial essence of your points you’ve made are lost on me. I feel real dumb 😟 sorry.

michael-cookson wrote on 8/31/2019, 3:13 PM

I have installed that driver on two pc's and also done the add profile to the 3d settings, no problems up to now with the driver, and once I setup the profiles for Vegas in the 3d settings my timeline playback plays nice and smooth now on 4k playback.

Former user wrote on 8/31/2019, 3:35 PM

@Former user I know you’re a good communicator, but the crucial essence of your points you’ve made are lost on me. I feel real dumb 😟 sorry.

@Grazie Well in this case, I relied on someone else’s communication skills i.e. the link I supplied, mainly because I also forgot to implement it. Simply put, follow the link and you’ll see how he adds VP to the Nvidia Control Panel. Right click the Windows desktop to select, then 3D, then add.

Without doing this you may not get all of the benefits of Nvidia card in Magix VP.

diverG wrote on 8/31/2019, 3:41 PM

@ Grazie

Rt  Clk on desk top to open nVidia control panel. Select 'Manage 3D settings'.  You are faced with a simple control panel.  Select 'Program settings and add Vegas to the list.  You simply add VP17, then scroll down and add your nVidia card.   If you find a significant improvement in performance you can repeat the operation & say add VP16 to the list.     Seem to recall this process from a few years back.  I suspect being a nVidia control panel your nVidia card would be auto selected by default & you only need to list VP.

The process is quite painless. If in doubt take notes or simply take a full system image as a fallback.  Enjoy!!

 

Sys 1 Gig Z-890-UD, i9 285K @ 3.7 Ghz 64gb ram, 250gb SSD system, Plus 2x2Tb m2,  GTX 4060 ti, BMIP4k video out. Vegas 19 & V22(250), Edius 8.3WG and DVResolve19 Studio. Win 11 Pro. Latest graphic drivers.

Sys 2 Laptop 'Clevo' i7 6700K @ 3.0ghz, 16gb ram, 250gb SSd + 2Tb hdd,   nvidia 940 M graphics. VP19, Plus Edius 8WG Win 10 Pro (22H2) Resolve18

 

Sylk wrote on 8/31/2019, 5:18 PM

Hi, what i can tell you, is that the GameReady 436.15 never switch my GTX1080 into the eco mode. Power, Frequencies, Temperature never drop. So i'am back under the 4xx drivers for now. I suspect NVidia wants toto accelerate death burn our GPU and boost their sales...

Sorry for gossip. After properly drivers uninstalling (via DDU) and reinstalling the 436.15, Eco mode is back! Earth will live a few more years.

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Software:
[OS]  : Windows 10 Ent. x64 v1903 (18362.535)
[NLE] : Vegas Pro 17.0 (Build 321) // (Build 284 if posted before 9/24/19)
[DRV] : Studio 536.23 (Display, PhysX, HD Audio) // (Game Ready 436.15 if posted before 9/24/19)
Hardware:
[GPU] : Gainward RTX 4090 Phantom / GTX 1080 Phoenix GLH
[CPU] : Intel Core i7-2600K @3.4GHz OC@4.5GHz (HyperThreaded) | AirCooling: Noctua NH-D14
[RAM] : 16GB (4x 4GB GSkill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz 9-9-9-24) @1333MHz
[SSD] : Samsung 860 Pro 1TB
[MOB] : Asus P8P67 Deluxe (Rev.1), No iGPU support
[SND] : Asus Xonar Essence STX
[PSU] : Corsair HX750
Devices:
[DSP1]: 30" DELL UltraSharp U3011 @2560x1600
[DSP2]: 28" Samsung U28D590 @3840x2160

[UPS] : Eaton 5PX 2200i RT

[CAM] : GoPro Hero8/4/3 Black. Apple iPhone 11Pro/6S.
[REC] : Zoom Handy Recorder H4.
AVsupport wrote on 8/31/2019, 5:23 PM

I am using Studio/Creator drivers and believe they are some somewhat more stable than Game..

However I am still having frequent crashes if I push the system too hard too quickly..

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Former user wrote on 8/31/2019, 6:35 PM

Short article on the “differences”? between Nvidia drivers ... https://techgage.com/news/nvidia-geforce-vs-studio-vs-quadro-driver-whats-the-difference/

Grazie wrote on 8/31/2019, 8:36 PM

 

Simply put, follow the link and you’ll see how he adds VP to the Nvidia Control Panel. Right click the Windows desktop to select, then 3D, then add.

@Former user - Ah, right! Yes we did this some years back. I remember.

Without doing this you may not get all of the benefits of Nvidia card in Magix VP.

@Former user Sure.

Rt  Clk on desk top to open nVidia control panel.      Seem to recall this process from a few years back. 

@diverG - Indeed! I seem to remember advocating the same 😂.

Look, most honourable Vegsters, I wished to note that I got conflicting advice from MAGIX, eg Game or Non Game Drivers. In another recent thread the level of Official Ticket Support has too come into question. Having @VEGASDerek and @VEGAS_EricD jumping in, we also gotta do some Home-Cooking and look after ourselves. There’s no recent VP17 sticky? Maybe our most venerable @vkmast could/can organise one?

Sure, it’s good to be reminded of the 3D thing. However, that’s not why I posted.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/31/2019, 11:48 PM

Maybe worth to mention about adding Magix in Nvidia Control Panel, in case some may have overlooked this step.

Techgage covers this in their latest look at VP17. https://techgage.com/article/magix-vegas-pro-17-cpu-gpu-performance/

Just remember that step is only meaningful if you're making your Magix settings different from your global settings... otherwise you can just enable or disable specific features on the global tab. The author in that article never shows us what his global settings are so it's not clear why he had a need to single out Magix on the application tab... and in all the screen entries we can see he leaves the global settings unchanged anyway. I imagine it only becomes significant if your global settings are optimized for gaming or some other video editor and you want those tweaks disabled or others enabled when you fire up Magix.

Former user wrote on 9/1/2019, 12:54 AM

Maybe worth to mention about adding Magix in Nvidia Control Panel, in case some may have overlooked this step.

Techgage covers this in their latest look at VP17. https://techgage.com/article/magix-vegas-pro-17-cpu-gpu-performance/

Just remember that step is only meaningful if you're making your Magix settings different from your global settings... otherwise you can just enable or disable specific features on the global tab.

If it's true what he suggests then it could be due to default global setting being OPTIMAL POWER, That driver setting only came out in 2016. If vegas pro's engine, and gpu support are really dated with various patches to make it not look quite as bad, then maybe vegas doesn't know about OPTIMAL POWER mode, and instead expects ADAPTIVE POWER mode which existed before 2016. You could set that mode just for vegas.

I agree It doesn't seem to make sense with that techgage guy did, Did not alter power modes, although he does see performance benefit.