Sell Radeon Vll For Radeon RX 6800 XT

Sassylola wrote on 10/28/2020, 2:43 PM

For the heck of it I went on Amazon to look up if Radeon Vll's were still being sold. To my shock used ones are $1,200 to $1,400.00. So I went to eBay and went to completed items and used Vll's went for between $700 and $850. One that was just for parts sold for $349.00. I paid nowhere near these prices. Plus I have a 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy. I do not know if that can be transferred to new buyer?

Today AMD announced Big Navi cards, and the 6800XT which will compete with NVIDIA RTX 3080 will cost $649.00. There top of the line Radeon RX 6900 XT is $999. I know stock will be limited in the beginning.

My question is if you could sell your Radeon Vll for $750 to $800.00 and replace with a 6800XT would you do it?

I am running Vegas 18 now (B.334) and when I have Hardware Decoder in file IO set to use AMD none of my AI effects (Colorization, Style Transfer) show up. With hardware decoder set to off they will show up and work. I have been in contact with support and they told me they will look into this further but for now turn off hardware decoder.

Yes I have uninstalled reinstalled Vegas and AI effects multiple times. Tried 3 different AMD drivers that Vegas recommended. Tried Vegas Build 284 same problem. Win 10 up to date.

I know benchmarks are not out yet and I am jumping the gun, but I feel now is the time to sell while the getting is good?

I play no games. Just edit family videos in Vegas. Thanks.

Comments

JN- wrote on 10/28/2020, 5:32 PM

@Sassylola It might not be relevant to your use case, but just in case it is, hold off until the next VP18 build, as there is an issue at the moment with I/O decoding “sticking”.

fred-w wrote on 10/28/2020, 9:16 PM

YOu have a good card, but if the market price is that high, I would be tempted to sell, you can always buy another one later, and at a lower price. Go for one of the new era Nvidia or AMD......they look BOFFO~!!

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/29/2020, 1:25 PM

You might want to hold off on that if you use pip or auto-brightness/contrast fx and only have one workstation... neither of them work yet with my "little navi" 5700xt. Been using bezier fx masking as a work around for the pip problem but have to run the auto-brightness/contrast fx on my Radeon VII then transfer the values it determines manually to my other machine. Hopefully the next v18 update will fix that.

hambonio wrote on 10/30/2020, 5:28 AM

I hope it is a nice upgrade and they will actually be on shelves. My Radeon VII is dying... I cannot get 3 displays anymore. At first I thought it was a monitor going bad but then it was random monitors out when starting up. Replaced all DP cables as well just in case. Then I tried changing one to HDMI - that worked for 3 days, then monitors started going out again. No luck. It SEEMS to be working well besides this but I am losing faith in it. I have been doing okay with 2 monitors running off it for about a month now. I installed a 10 year old GPU just to get my 3rd display up. Caveat? Now the Radeon Pro drivers cannot be used because of the old card. Not sure I ever noticed a difference before though between the "regular" and "pro". I have extended warranty on it until next June at Microcenter - so hopefully I can just trade it back in when a new GPU AMD or Nvidia is actually in stock.

hambonio wrote on 10/30/2020, 9:07 AM

You might want to hold off on that if you use pip or auto-brightness/contrast fx and only have one workstation... neither of them work yet with my "little navi" 5700xt. Been using bezier fx masking as a work around for the pip problem but have to run the auto-brightness/contrast fx on my Radeon VII then transfer the values it determines manually to my other machine. Hopefully the next v18 update will fix that.

Did today's update fix that? I see some references to what you may be talking about in the bug fixes.

Sassylola wrote on 10/30/2020, 9:54 AM

Hambonio, where did you find today's update. I cannot find it. Thanks

hambonio wrote on 10/30/2020, 10:08 AM

It just had me update, I think they started about an hour ago. I was in the middle of opening projects and the updater popped up.

Sassylola wrote on 10/30/2020, 10:15 AM

Thanks. I will update mine.

vkmast wrote on 10/30/2020, 10:17 AM

The b 373 update shows also in MAGIX Download Center. Expect the "official" announcement in Forum > News, Patches soon.

vkmast wrote on 10/30/2020, 11:32 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-18-update-2-build-373--124912/

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/30/2020, 11:45 AM

You might want to hold off on that if you use pip or auto-brightness/contrast fx and only have one workstation... neither of them work yet with my "little navi" 5700xt. Been using bezier fx masking as a work around for the pip problem but have to run the auto-brightness/contrast fx on my Radeon VII then transfer the values it determines manually to my other machine. Hopefully the next v18 update will fix that.

Did today's update fix that? I see some references to what you may be talking about in the bug fixes.

@hambonio It's fixed! Kudos to Magix.

TheRhino wrote on 10/31/2020, 2:58 PM

@Howard-Vigorita happy to hear the new V18 update helped your Radeon VII issues. Right now the Radeon VII is still popular for Crypto-Mining so their resell value is still high. However, it looks like AMD will provide a Big Navi version targeting Miners with blockchaining & improved Linux drivers, so once that happens, VII prices will start to drop. IMO if you can actually get ahold of any of the newer cards in-stock, now might be a good time to sell while VII prices are high. If you don't like the new card, they will also sell for what you paid for about a year, so you're not really taking a big risk by selling & buying new tech...

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/1/2020, 12:16 AM

@TheRhino no Radeon VII issues here. Issues were with the 5700xt aka "little navi." And if anyone's hoping I'd sell my r7... ha, ha, keep dreaming. I have the little navi in my b-machine which is an older xeon. With the update Vegas is liking it as much as the r7. Bodes well for Big Navi. I'm not familiar with AI effects or the issue with them... I've never had an issue with Vega gpus using standard Magix fx... have Radeon VII, Vega64, and Vega-M and they're all good. Navi's a newer api, however, so that's were I expect the growing pains and I had some.

Just finishing benching the update along with adding an Nvidia 1660 to the xeon box. Hoping to put my xeon/little navi combo more on par with my 9900k/Radeon7 which has an Intel igpu on the motherboard that's quite adept at decoding. The amd/nvidia combo seems to come pretty close until I throw hevc at it. Just finished charting it... added previous i9/r7 benches to the end for perspective but have not benched the update on that machine yet.

The xeon box is no match for the i9 but that little navi beats it in there on the Sample Project. Not to be misleading here, the little navi performed almost as well as the Radeon7 on all the Red Car render benches including hevc when i tried it out in the i9 box. I assume Big Navi should surpass it. But the Radeon 7 was significantly better playing 4k hevc without proxies which is why I wouldn't part with it. We'll have to see how Big Navi does with that.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/1/2020, 1:34 AM

@Sassylola If amd decoding is the compatibility issue with the FX add-ons you use, throwing another brand as a 2nd gpu into your Ryzen box may solve it while giving you about a 10% render performance boost. I chose the Nvidia 1660 because it's fairly inexpensive and power efficient and isn't overloading my 850w power supply. The Radeon VII draws about 50 watts more than the 5700xt so that may be a closer call. They're about the same slot width so they should fit similarly into adjacent slots. The 1660 did overlap into my next slot down so unless you have 2 free pcie slots next to your gpu, it might not fit. My i/o setting page now looks like this:

hambonio wrote on 11/1/2020, 10:44 AM

I sold one Radeon VII on ebay in Sep for $750. Immediately after that my one other Radeon VII started dropping displays. I can only get 2 displays out of it now out of 3 monitors. Regretting selling at this point. So far as everything else Vegas concerned it seems to be working (but yes I do have lots of crashes which has always been the norm for me - probably unrelated). I am hoping this thing holds on long enough until a new GPU is actually on the shelf. Odd that during the entire AMD presentation though, there was never ONE mention abut the power for content creators.