Vegas 17 Feature Requests

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Rednroll wrote on 5/30/2019, 4:51 PM

"Also, please guys, let try to keep this thread for only Vegas 17 Feature Requests .. not for work-arounds. Thanks."

Wishful thinking. The problem is that anytime you post a feature request in a discussion, someone's interpretation is going to be different than yours if there is a lack of information surrounding the FR. Therefore, others are bound to chime in to say, "but Vegas already has that capability and here is how it is done.

Personally, I feel these threads are mostly a waste of time anyways. How does a developer weed through a bunch of discussions and decide to pick out a few golden nuggets and fully understand the requirements of that feature request without actively participating in the discussion? You see anyone from Magix asking for further details of a particular feature request since this discussion started. The answer is they really can't. These threads are posted to give you that warm fuzzy feeling that the developers are listening to your requests. Enjoy your warm fuzzy feeling.

Kinvermark wrote on 5/30/2019, 5:26 PM

@Rednroll

The developers ABSOLUTELY 100% ARE monitoring these threads, and ideas generated here have made it into Vegas.

So, now that you know how important these threads are to some of us, I would ask you a favour: please do not try to derail or diminish them.

Thank you for your cooperation.

 

Kinvermark wrote on 5/30/2019, 9:07 PM

Couple things that occurred to me would be nice to have:

1) "selection follows cursor" switch, so that an event is selected when under the timeline cursor without having to click on it. This could lead to faster access to fx, etc on each clip.

2) "Ignore transitions" switch to temporarily shut off all transitions & end fades. This would then allow batch export of clips for further processing (e.g color, grading, fx work, etc) without having transitions, so that they can then be easily replaced in the timeline or added as take.

aboammar wrote on 5/30/2019, 9:25 PM

Couple things that occurred to me would be nice to have:

1) "selection follows cursor" switch, so that an event is selected when under the timeline cursor without having to click on it. This could lead to faster access to fx, etc on each clip.

2) "Ignore transitions" switch to temporarily shut off all transitions & end fades. This would then allow batch export of clips for further processing (e.g color, grading, fx work, etc) without having transitions, so that they can then be easily replaced in the timeline or added as take.

I truly did not quite understand number one, however, number 2 is great idea and I am 100% with it 👍

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Grazie wrote on 5/30/2019, 10:55 PM

Couple things that occurred to me would be nice to have:

@Kinvermark - Well, Having read your requests I’d invite you to consider my replies.

1) "selection follows cursor" switch, so that an event is selected when under the timeline cursor without having to click on it. This could lead to faster access to fx, etc on each clip.

The Cursor makes a Vertical Slice of ALL the Events that are apparent under the Cursor. Think of a Video Wall of say 4x4, or 16x16, how would VP “know” which of those Evnts you wish to Focus on? I understand your possible frustration with this, I’ve had this too, but how would VP know?

2) "Ignore transitions" switch to temporarily shut off all transitions & end fades. This would then allow batch export of clips for further processing (e.g color, grading, fx work, etc) without having transitions, so that they can then be easily replaced in the timeline or added as take.

There're are already several neat solutions for this.

Kinvermark wrote on 5/31/2019, 12:11 AM

@Grazie

Good questions.

1) Other NLE's do this. There is just a set of "rules" for selection. For example, the highlighted track (or tracks) first, then top down. Or just top down. Won't automate nicely in all scenarios, but will for most.

2) Are you thinking HOS and/or Vegasaur? (I haven't yet tried the first and maybe misunderstand how to do this in the second.)

Grazie wrote on 5/31/2019, 1:31 AM

1) I use Select Event from Project Media. Now that PM has got LARGE format Thumbnails I can see the Event I want. Nearly MediaMangler, but not quite . . . (boohoo..) .

2) HOS "Render as Take" Wayne listened to my pleading years back and I worked closely with him on testing his magnificent outcomes. Or Event FXing. I use what ever I need for quickness to get back at the story. But the HOS RAT is THE tool for me for this. Tool for Job! That's me.

aboammar wrote on 5/31/2019, 7:55 AM

2) "Ignore transitions" switch to temporarily shut off all transitions & end fades. This would then allow batch export of clips for further processing (e.g color, grading, fx work, etc) without having transitions, so that they can then be easily replaced in the timeline or added as take.

There're are already several neat solutions for this.

Well, still nothing beats a built in switch on the track itself. Besides, HOS has problems with high DPI mode.

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MagixDerek wrote on 5/31/2019, 8:16 AM

@Rednroll

The developers ABSOLUTELY 100% ARE monitoring these threads, and ideas generated here have made it into Vegas.

He's right.

Kinvermark wrote on 5/31/2019, 8:42 AM

@MagixDerek Thank you. :)

@Grazie

1) Select under cursor: I should explain this better. The idea is to reduce mouse clicks to make heavy timeline work faster. Example: I have a timeline of 100 clips of mixed stills and video (e.g. from a wedding). All the edit timings are done and I am ready for final grading. I have copied my custom filter package to all the clips (e.g. Filmconvert - Film Effects - Curves - CC secondary - unsharp mask - sharpen). Now I need to work though the timeline and make each clip look perfect. I open the Video event FX window of the first clip and start clicking and dragging sliders.

Currently I will have to reposition the timeline cursor and click the FX icon on each event to open that events set of FX. Then I have to click on each FX to show that window, then open various controls on each FX and make changes. Several thousand mouse clicks later I am done. :)

What I would like to do, is to use my shuttle to move the cursor over the event and have the FX window update to activate the FX package applied to that event. Better still would be to have a single comprehensive colour grading FX window so I don't have to switch between FX in a package, and best would be to have a hardware controller talk to that single window.

2) HOS Render Events does seem to have a way to render events without the fades (crossfades?) or transitions. I will have to test this. Regardless, there are other situations where turning off all the transitions could be useful: 1) speed up timeline review, 2) exporting XML timeline with straight cuts...

 

 

aboammar wrote on 5/31/2019, 12:40 PM

@MagixDerek Thank you. :)

@Grazie

1) Select under cursor: I should explain this better. The idea is to reduce mouse clicks to make heavy timeline work faster. Example: I have a timeline of 100 clips of mixed stills and video (e.g. from a wedding). All the edit timings are done and I am ready for final grading. I have copied my custom filter package to all the clips (e.g. Filmconvert - Film Effects - Curves - CC secondary - unsharp mask - sharpen). Now I need to work though the timeline and make each clip look perfect. I open the Video event FX window of the first clip and start clicking and dragging sliders.

Currently I will have to reposition the timeline cursor and click the FX icon on each event to open that events set of FX. Then I have to click on each FX to show that window, then open various controls on each FX and make changes. Several thousand mouse clicks later I am done. :)

What I would like to do, is to use my shuttle to move the cursor over the event and have the FX window update to activate the FX package applied to that event. Better still would be to have a single comprehensive colour grading FX window so I don't have to switch between FX in a package, and best would be to have a hardware controller talk to that single window.

2) HOS Render Events does seem to have a way to render events without the fades (crossfades?) or transitions. I will have to test this. Regardless, there are other situations where turning off all the transitions could be useful: 1) speed up timeline review, 2) exporting XML timeline with straight cuts...

 

 

Aha 😃 .. now I understand number one and I agree with you 1000%

As for number 2, I still insist that a built in switch is much better than using 3rd party solution.

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Rednroll wrote on 5/31/2019, 7:37 PM

Couple things that occurred to me would be nice to have:

1) "selection follows cursor" switch, so that an event is selected when under the timeline cursor without having to click on it. This could lead to faster access to fx, etc on each clip.

2) "Ignore transitions" switch to temporarily shut off all transitions & end fades. This would then allow batch export of clips for further processing (e.g color, grading, fx work, etc) without having transitions, so that they can then be easily replaced in the timeline or added as take.

I truly did not quite understand number one, however, number 2 is great idea and I am 100% with it 👍

My point demonstrated. They may read through these discussions but without active participation, then requests are misunderstood and misinterpreted. I work in software development. Even when feature requests come from someone who is well versed with the product, further communications to better understand that request needs to come from the developers. The fact this discussion has no one actively engaged from Magix shows me how misguided some of you seem to be and are taking this discussion way too seriously. I won't bother you any longer, so save your responses.

Rednroll wrote on 5/31/2019, 7:40 PM

Before I leave, let me test this out. Vegas import and export of MKV file container support. Let it be written, let it be done. Prove me wrong Magix.

Sure would be nice to render multiple audio track stems with a single video file into a MKV container file instead of having to manually do something like this in a freeware s/w product like Handbrake. Placing that file on the Vegas timeline so it shows up as a single video track with multiple audio tracks would be nice as well.

Rednroll wrote on 5/31/2019, 8:10 PM

@Rednroll

The developers ABSOLUTELY 100% ARE monitoring these threads, and ideas generated here have made it into Vegas.

He's right.

"Improving the FX window has been on our radar for a while, but like all features, it is on a priority list. I can say that personally, I really would like to get to this because I find it quite frustrating in my use of VEGAS as well."

You seem to be sending mixed messages. Are feature requests being monitored and implemented or is there a bigger roadmap plan already established internally? I already know the answer because I work in software development. Are ideas here really implemented into Vegas or is the case more that features were already on the bigger picture development roadmap and now the particular user feature request just happened to be a shot at the dartboard which aligned with the roadmap?

Who delivers those user feature request feature implementation requirements to the developers? Are they actively participating in this discussion and asking for further details so they can define the feature requirements to the developers? Maybe simple things like "I would like Vegas to do this thing that this other NLE does" are easier to understand, and likely is on the internal development roadmap path to remain competitive anyways.

Sorry, for my interruption in the discussion. Sounds like we have some real heavy duty product planning strategy activities going on in this discussion thread. Please, continue onward my interruptions are done.

Musicvid wrote on 6/1/2019, 5:28 PM

@Rednroll

And another highly qualified audio engineer rejoins our ranks, as if a Phoenix, but after a 14 year absence??

Makes about four of us old soundchimps now, if my count is correct. You are welcome here, old friend, as I happened to think you were right, when we shared the brashness of youth in our pursuit of excellence. Then.

Kinvermark wrote on 6/1/2019, 6:33 PM

@Musicvid

Great! Maybe you can PM him to convince him to get the bee out of his bonnet and leave the constant negativity and sarcasm behind. The last posts are totally condescending and have no purpose other than to offend.

@Rednroll

A public forum post is not the only way the developers communicate with users. Public discussion is often avoided exactly because of the kind of attitude you are expressing.

Musicvid wrote on 6/2/2019, 12:25 PM

@Rednroll

Personally, I have no problem with your right to discuss a particular feature request in detail if you wish in an open, public forum, lacking an attempt to drag it off topic, which you absolutely have have not done.

That doesn't mean others won't get annoyed with extended discussion of a particular feature that you find important, yet is neither relevant nor interesting to to them.

"Misunderstood" is an annoying part of the internet millieu, yet many consider its expediency preferable to the U.S. Mail, which was all many of us had growing up in the 60s.

My typical response is to see the non-interest and even indifference as a motivation to dig into it even deeper, with additional tests and research in a new parallel discussion, in which almost no one will have any interest or clue what I am talking about, except the lurking developers who will read it, appreciate the thought that went into it, and possibly put it on their development wish list, with its priority being more dependent on their own personal level of interest than general consensus. That's the way that it is, and is yet far preferable to them not reading threads at all.

My most recent example of this is in a thread I started with an unpopular, politically-incorrect premise, and which was quickly derailed, deliberately or otherwise.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/plea-to-new-users-please-do-not-set-32-bit-pixel-format--114750

And its continuation here, in which no one took any interest, except a couple of moderators, who may have felt relief that a particularly bad and malignant piece of marketing hype originating with Sony ca. 2007 had finally been lain to rest, pending verification of my data.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/this-is-not-about-grading--114804/

So that's something that has worked with my particular esotericism, from where I supported you in 2005, as much as I do now, as well as @johnmeyer and a few other engineers.

Welcome back to the forums with good wishes. Kinvermark and I are old friends, as well.

AVsupport wrote on 6/2/2019, 5:40 PM

that all said, did I mention:

Support to convert the LTC timecode on a clip's audio track to a proper Clip (SMPTE) TC?

As more and more split recording systems emerge, we come to see more sync boxes but also more VDSLRs that typically suffer from absence of external TC input.

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Musicvid wrote on 6/2/2019, 6:58 PM

My one feature request:

Add verbose XML human-friendly logging to the output, to facilitate troubleshooting by developers, tech support, moderators, and peer users.

And apologies for being snarky when making this request in the past. No one is exempt, are we?

Matthias-Claflin wrote on 6/2/2019, 9:30 PM

The biggest request I have is being able to zoom in on the trimmer and the preview. I hate that I can't zoom in on the preview and never understood why this wasn't implemented already.

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aboammar wrote on 6/2/2019, 11:11 PM

The biggest request I have is being able to zoom in on the trimmer and the preview. I hate that I can't zoom in on the preview and never understood why this wasn't implemented already.

Agreed. Also zooming in the preview window as will will be very helpful.

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Kinvermark wrote on 6/3/2019, 12:32 PM

Yes. Being able to manipulate the preview independent of the frame size would allow on-screen controls to work better (more easily.) For example, if you need to mask one edge of an object, then complete your mask in the "out of frame" grey area.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/7/2019, 12:21 PM

Storage on other machines on my network should show up in the Vegas explorer like they do in the render-to explorer. This new Vegas feature would allow Vegas to load a remote project without exiting and double clicking on that .veg file in Windows explorer which restarts Vegas to load the remote project.

Christian-Johnson wrote on 6/7/2019, 3:50 PM

Please update the VST engine. It can glitch when there are VST plugins on the master bus when the Mixer window and the VST plugin window are open at the same time. Also, please provide a VU meter on the Master Bus window so I don't need to have the Mixer window open to see VU.

I prefer the old multi-colored VU Meter (and the circular Phase meter in SF) rather than the new integrated green one in SF13.