Thanks, @VEGASDerek

But guys you are now making it unnecessary difficult to test out the software comfortably! If you have to continue with the unnecessary 2 minutes restriction, at least make it based on region selection so we don't have to delete big parts or our projects just for testing purposes! It is not convenient this way!

Anyone know what all the restrictions may be? Have downloaded the trial onto 2 machines but no email or serial number in my account yet. Does it take 24 hours? Can the trial be activated on more than one machine? Is it limited to how many machines I can try it out on? Tried a support request for these and other questions but it won't take it without buying a voucher.

No limit to the number of machines you can try it on. Emails probably have to be sent out in chunks to avoid tripping spam filters, and there may be a large number of folks asking for those e-mails, so hang in there for the code.

To the OP, if they let you render out 2 minutes of whatever you want, nothing stops you from rendering out the project in 2 minute segments and then using another cheap editing app (like windows movie maker) to stitch those pieces together into a full composition, and making it unnecessary to buy Vegas.

This is pretty silly considering how Vegas is usually full of bugs for many months after a new release. I would not think of purchasing until I knew it was working as good or better than past versions on my system. I like the improvements listed and this seems like an actual update but I will wait to read the reports since it cannot really be tested in demo mode.

I don't see how you can't test it to see if there's bugs currently... You can do everything all the way through the rendering process.

No ability to test out big projects or long renders...

There's no limit on project size, you can open big project and see how they perform, you just can't render them past 2 minutes. There's also a refund policy in place as well should that final test fail.

To the OP, if they let you render out 2 minutes of whatever you want, nothing stops you from rendering out the project in 2 minute segments and then using another cheap editing app (like windows movie maker) to stitch those pieces together into a full composition, and making it unnecessary to buy Vegas.

 

With all due respect, this is very stupid reason!! There is already a 30 days restriction on the trail verion after which the software will stop working anyway! To do a full test of the software, I need to render a big project, because sometimes Vegas Pro can render small project with no problem, but struggle or crash when rendering large project.

Vegas Pro never had such stupid restrictions when it was sold by Sony and it was very convenient and easy to fully test the software for 30 days even with very big project. That was why I always upgraded to every new version (except for version 14) however now Magix might be forcing me to just skip version 17.

There's no limit on project size, you can open big project and see how they perform, you just can't render them past 2 minutes. There's also a refund policy in place as well should that final test fail.

You can not render any large project even if you selected 2 minutes region! Just another stupid restriction to make it hard to test Vegas Pro 17!

Vegas Pro never had such stupid restrictions when it was sold by Sony

Not completely true. In fact, the watermark was introduced prior to the MAGIX acquisition. It was inadvertently turned off for VEGAS Pro 14 trials. The 2 minute render restriction was indeed added, so that is indeed new starting in VEGAS Pro 15. One other restriction that had once been applied to trials prior to the MAGIX acquisition which we have chosen not to turn back on is to inject beeps periodically into the audio when trials where running.

Vegas Pro never had such stupid restrictions when it was sold by Sony

Not completely true. In fact, the watermark was introduced prior to the MAGIX acquisition. It was inadvertently turned off for VEGAS Pro 14 trials. The 2 minute render restriction was indeed added, so that is indeed new starting in VEGAS Pro 15. One other restriction that had once been applied to trials prior to the MAGIX acquisition which we have chosen not to turn back on is to inject beeps periodically into the audio when trials where running.

 

@VEGASDerek  I am referring specifically to the 2 minutes render restriction when comparing to Sony Vegas Pro. I have no problem with adding watermark, 30 days restriction, or even injecting beeps periodically into the audio! But the 2 minutes render restriction is way too much and does not alwo anyone to test large project! And not being able to render a region of 2 minutes just make it even worse!

So I downloaded Vegas Pro 17 to test it out but I found it unnecessary restricted for a trial version!

The default 30 days restriction is perfectly fine, and now adding a watermark is also acceptable to me, however limiting the rendering time to only 2 minutes is way too much in my opinion! And the worst thing is that the trial version does not allow me to render anything at all! The 2 minutes restriction is not even working! See attached screenshot.

It's something they've been doing in Video Pro X for a while, they just ported it over to VEGAS Pro.

I remember, when I tried Video Pro X, I had to ask MAGIX or a 30 day full license just to fully trial the software (which they provided, after a little persistence)... because with a 2 minute restriction, this is impossible.

It's more of a Demo than a Trial. Have to be able to test stability with longer renders, for obvious reasons.

Maybe ask Magix for a proper trial, like I did?

It seems Magix do not have enough confidence about the stability of Vegas Pro 17 in long projects, thus forcing the stupid 2 minute restriction in the trial version which is very bad strategy! 😕

Are the forums filled with posts about render crashes or instability while editing? If hundreds if not thousands by now other users are able to use the software without issue, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet, and there's a refund policy in case it isn't.

I don't necessarily agree with the limitation, a watermark would probably work better, but I can live with it. I don't secure software for a living, so I don't know what the best counter-piracy methods would be.

Just very recently I downloaded a trail of v16 to test against my current v14 and I was not thrilled with the 2 minute render restriction as I wanted to test out large and complex project renders and compare the versions!! This comparision became a major project on its own and I don't have the spare time devote to it. Now I was considering looking at v17....but again the 2 minute render restriction...I'll have to leave the testing until I have more time and delay going to v17.

Are the forums filled with posts about render crashes or instability while editing? If hundreds if not thousands by now other users are able to use the software without issue, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet, and there's a refund policy in case it isn't.

I don't necessarily agree with the limitation, a watermark would probably work better, but I can live with it. I don't secure software for a living, so I don't know what the best counter-piracy methods would be.

Every system is different my friend. And what works in your system or even on most systems does not a guarantee it will be the same in my own system, even if it has the same hardware specification. There are so many variables which make it impossible to guarantee a software will work perfectly on any system, and that is the whole point of testing the trial version of any software in my own system.

Refund policy though it is good to have, it is not a replacement for testing a proper trial version.

It seems Magix do not have enough confidence about the stability of Vegas Pro 17 in long projects, 😕

Are they letting folks that buy the upgrade plug in their new v17 serial number and lift the 2 minute limit on rendering?

Are they letting folks that buy the upgrade plug in their new v17 serial number and lift the 2 minute limit on rendering?

Inserting a serial number into a trial version converts it into a normal registered version. So yes.

I agree with @aboammar. Surely a watermark is sufficient to discourage improper use of a trial. The two minute limitation could be enough to put off a potential customer. It would me if I was trialling several different editors to compare them.

Are they letting folks that buy the upgrade plug in their new v17 serial number and lift the 2 minute limit on rendering?

Inserting a serial number into a trial version converts it into a normal registered version. So yes.

I bought the 16+17 deal, a new v16 serial# appeared in my account product list, but no entry for v17. Who do I call?

Sent a message to support but no reply.

See @VEGAS_CommunityManager here?

@Howard-Vigorita

I understand the frustration with a 2 minute limit. But on the other hand there is a serious issue of piracy (they even show up on this forum asking for help!) and perhaps (speculation here) a licensing issue for third party codecs who (also speculation) may be paid by royalties.

Not ideal, but perhaps we can give them a break on this one?

I came here considering to upgrade to Vegas 17. I am stll on Sony's version 12. But the 2 minute limit seems too restrictive for my evaluation needs and compared to competitors. In addition to testing 4k, I would have liked to test its ability to import and render a few of my v12 projects before purchasing. Going to have to think on this.