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vkmast wrote on 3/26/2017, 5:45 AM

As advised here. (The last build of Sony Vegas Pro 13 is 453. See section 4 in the first link in that comment.)

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-make-my-video-preview-play-smoothly-in-vegas-pro--104624/

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

jemma-s wrote on 3/27/2017, 12:47 AM

Thank you very much for the help! However, after I tried all these steps nothing seemed to help. Do you know what I should do?

john_dennis wrote on 3/27/2017, 12:51 AM

Give us a vague hint about your system specs.

jemma-s wrote on 3/27/2017, 1:04 AM

john_dennis wrote on 3/27/2017, 2:13 AM

Your system is a little weak. I'm the master of understatement. Core clock frequencies are low. GPU is not helping. At least you have four cores.

Post your media parameters.

jemma-s wrote on 3/27/2017, 2:21 AM

Where do I find the media parameters? I'm not a tech expert so I don't know where to find it

john_dennis wrote on 3/27/2017, 2:26 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

jemma-s wrote on 3/27/2017, 3:30 AM

This is the mediainfo

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Jemma\Videos\Video Clips For YouTube\Summer DIYs\Bored Jar\GQCB1226.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 194 MiB
Duration                                 : 2 min 37 s
Overall bit rate                         : 10.3 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-22 06:38:05
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-22 06:38:38
Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 2 min 37 s
Bit rate                                 : 10.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.367
Stream size                              : 190 MiB (98%)
Title                                    : Core Media Video
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-22 06:38:05
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-22 06:38:38
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 2 min 37 s
Source duration                          : 2 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Channel positions                        : Front: C
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 3.66 MiB (2%)
Source stream size                       : 3.66 MiB (2%)
Title                                    : Core Media Audio
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-22 06:38:05
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-22 06:38:38

 

 

 

 

jemma-s wrote on 3/27/2017, 3:31 AM

And this is the Vegas Pro File Properties

 

General
  Name: GQCB1226.mov
  Folder: C:\Users\Jemma\Videos\Video Clips For YouTube\Summer DIYs\Bored Jar
  Type: QuickTime
  Size: 198.80 MB (203,572,698 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, 22 March 2017, 5:39:44 PM
  Modified: Wednesday, 22 March 2017, 5:38:41 PM
  Accessed: Wednesday, 22 March 2017, 5:40:01 PM
  Attributes: 

Streams
  Audio: 00:02:37.501, 44,100 Hz, 32 Bit (IEEE Float), Mono, AAC
  Video: 00:02:37.500, 30.000 fps, 1280x720x24, H.264

Summary
  [GUDE]: {7BB3FE15-954A-4E75-B5E1-45EE98F74990}

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: qt7plug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 13.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\qt7plug
  Format: QuickTime 7
  Version: Version 13.0 (Build 453)
  Company: Sony Creative Software Inc.

john_dennis wrote on 3/27/2017, 12:23 PM

Thanks for posting data about your media and how it's decoded in Vegas Pro. It really helps. Your 1280x720-30p iPad media is not the most challenging source with the exception of having to use Quicktime to decode the files. At least, you're not currently trying to edit 4K.

Let's test my assertion that your hardware may be the limiting factor in you preview performance.

With one of your projects on the Vegas timeline:

1) Play and watch the frames per second counter in the Preview window.

Ideally, you should have a constant 30 for your media. Please report what you observe.

2) Now, bring up the Windows Task Manager by striking Control - Shift - Escape and Select the Performance tab in the panel that opens. I see a screen that shows the CPU usage, though your screen will be different on Windows 10. Please report your CPU usage.

I see you filled out your user profile. It's nice to put a face to a name. Good luck with your youtube channel.

I found this review of the laptop that you described.

jemma-s wrote on 3/28/2017, 4:34 AM

Usually, the fps varied from 3-14. At one part, it went up to 19, however most of the time it was either 6-7 or 9-10.

Here is my CPU usage:

Thank you!

jemma-s wrote on 3/28/2017, 4:34 AM

Nick Hope I will check the link you sent and tell you how it goes.

john_dennis wrote on 3/28/2017, 2:04 PM

Your CPU usage is lower than I expected. That's good and that's bad. The good is that you may still have capacity in you laptop if you can find a way to use it. The bad: you have to find a way to use it.

The specs for your laptop model shows that a 2GB Nvidia GeForce 540M video adapter is available along with the video adapter on the intel CPU. Though neither adapter is state-of-the-art, one might get some improvement from one of them in Vegas Pro.

In Vegas Pro select Options / Preferences

On the Preferences screen, select the Video tab.

On the Video tab there is a drop-down box called GPU acceleration of video processing  

Tell us which adapter is active. The setting could be Off.

If you have options available, set each option, restart Vegas Pro after each change and repeat you preview test.

thewarden wrote on 4/26/2017, 7:51 PM

Ok, I've been banging my head with this one like many others. Vegas 14 (or 13) simply will NOT preview my 1080p at 30 or 60fps. 30fps admittedly handles better but still with stutter, and 60 will in fact take MINUTES to come out of freeze when I click anywhere on the timeline. Now I've tried Wondershare Filmora, and corel videostudio just out of curiousity, and they both work smooth as silk! Which leads me to believe it's not a hardware issue. If Vegas "thinks" it is, then it's poorly written since others can do it. I may have to switch but I'm really not wanting to learn another platform. My system is a 3.4ghz intel core i3 with 16 gigs of ram and a 4gig geforce gpu. All of my editing video is on it's own internal sata drive. If I need a hardware upgrade for vegas to keep up, then so long vegas. And converting all of my video to something "vegas can handle" and then switching it back after editing is not an option. That's just FAR too time consuming.

Are there any real world suggestions? Something that I may be missing? I've tried all the "fixes" and what not on youtube and google. Absolutely no change whatsoever.

john_dennis wrote on 4/26/2017, 8:31 PM

"Are there any real world suggestions?"

Buy the fastest 4 core - 8 thread i7 that will work in your motherboard.

NickHope wrote on 4/27/2017, 1:27 AM
Are there any real world suggestions? Something that I may be missing? I've tried all the "fixes" and what not on youtube and google.

Ignore those. Go patiently and carefully through the post John linked to in the 2nd post. Pretty much everything you can do is in there (including ultimately upgrading your CPU, as John said).

jemma-s wrote on 5/9/2017, 6:03 AM

I am so sorry I have not replied. I used Nick's link and I converted all the video files using ffmpeg! It worked and thank you so much both of you for the help.

thewarden wrote on 5/9/2017, 7:54 AM

Not upgrading. Every other platform I've tried previews my 1080p 60fps flawlessly. If my cpu is the problem, how can theae others work smooth as silk? Lightworks, video studio x10, and filmora. All 0 issues. Vegas? Just sits for 2 or 3 minutes every time i click anywhere on the timeline. When it's "caught up" it still doesn't update the preview. So I'll just buy one of these $99 programs and proxy edit in Vegas if i have to. Crazy that programs a 16th of the cost can handle this. I'm sorry but a $300 upgrade just to satisfy an already expensive program? Not happening.

john_dennis wrote on 5/9/2017, 8:40 AM

It's good that we have so many choices these days.

john_dennis wrote on 5/9/2017, 8:56 AM

Jemma-s, thanks for reporting you solution.

thewarden wrote on 5/9/2017, 9:06 AM

It's good that we have so many choices these days.

True, but Vegas imo still has the best interface and will always be my fav. I've found that with these others, something as simple as a transition is a 3 step process. Vegas makes everything quick and easy to find/accomplish. But it apparently lacks one important thing: the ability to preview many formats.