[Information] Movie Studio 2022 is not a Vegas Product

zaubermac wrote on 11/30/2021, 1:00 AM

Greetings!

It seems that Magix has continued to muddy the waters, but I want to clarify for other Real Vegas users who might have not have realized this: Movie Studio 2022 is not related to Vegas Movie Studio.

I followed a link from a marketing email from Magix to this site, to be sold a product that doesn't belong here. I'm not posting this to start a flame war, but if I had known this before hand, I wouldn't have 'upgraded'. To send me an upgrade for a product that has the same name, from the same site, that isn't the same program, is frustrating to me. My hope is that Magix will reconsider the place it sells its not Vegas products and not allow them to detract from the goodwill it has fostered with its inherited Vegas users. I've used Vegas since v4 and have always found it quick and useful for editing. I didn't realize that Movie Studio 2022 wasn't a Vegas product until I purchased and installed it and then tried to fix it. Still trying....

If someone is looking to make the leap from Vegas Movie Studio, I would whole heartedly recommend moving into the Pro family. Vegas Edit is soooooo much of an upgrade over the MS 2022 option. If I had realized what I was actually being sold, that would have been my choice.

I'm sorry the Vegas forum peeps are in the middle of this and my hope is Magix will move the product to its home site and sell it there; so you may continue your good work with Vegas Pro! I hope this post isn't deleted, so that Magix will think about it and that maybe even one customer will be better informed.

Thanks for listening, have a great holidays!

Comments

walter-i. wrote on 11/30/2021, 2:53 AM

You don't have to worry about your post being deleted.
The topic is covered on page 1 under "News" in a pinned thread.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/information-movie-studio-18--130442/

You can try writing to Magix directly, they might give you money back if you bought Vegas Pro anyway.

EricLNZ wrote on 11/30/2021, 3:13 AM

Simply, Movie Studio 18, 2022 or whatever shouldn't be on the Vegas products page. It belongs on the Magix video products page.

walter-i. wrote on 11/30/2021, 3:40 AM

Simply, Movie Studio 18, 2022 or whatever shouldn't be on the Vegas products page. It belongs on the Magix video products page.

Reyfox wrote on 11/30/2021, 10:22 AM

+2, it shouldn't be on the Vegas page.

It's not that it's a bad product, but more like a "bait and switch" without the user knowing what happened.

zaubermac wrote on 11/30/2021, 1:00 PM

+2, it shouldn't be on the Vegas page.

It's not that it's a bad product, but more like a "bait and switch" without the user knowing what happened.

Felt a lot like a "bait and switch", actually. I understand that these things happen. Magix could honestly not have realized that people might not notice that Movie Studio 18, sold by the same company, on the same website, as an upgrade to version 17 of a program of the same name, was in fact, a completely different program.

But then, they did it again. 😲😲🤑

EricLNZ wrote on 11/30/2021, 3:48 PM

@zaubermac Actually you are late to the party. Search the forum for "MS18"and you will find many other posts on the same feeling of being misled, dating back to around July when MS18 was released.

zaubermac wrote on 11/30/2021, 4:57 PM

@EricLNZ I saw that after the fact! 😜 I guess I was more frustrated that they saw all that from the first party, then printed new invites to a new MS 2022 party. I just received the MS 2022 upgrade offer last week, during Black Friday promo emails Magix sent out. It's so new, they don't even have a seperate forum for complaints yet on the Magix site.

I did think about it a bit, trying to be objective, and one possible answer is actually a language one? The more precise term for their offer is a cross-grade, not an upgrade. Perhaps if they reword it, others will have a better understanding of what they are being offered. I'd like to think that it's not just a move purely motivated by burning customer goodwill to generate short term revenue? That would be a sad use of 20+ years of users. Especially as dedicated a group as the Vegas peeps. People used Toast to made cd's for decades, then they didn't. No one even blinked.

My hope is a peaceful resolution. My intent is to get Vegas, prob Edit, in the next couple weeks. There still is an actual upgrade path; I intend to use it before they change their mind! 😀

vkmast wrote on 11/30/2021, 5:48 PM

The magix.info/us/ forum's recommendation is to post on https://www.magix.info/us/video-forum/movie-edit-pro/ "until a separate category is created". That applies to Movie Studio 18 and 2022 versions as well AFAIK. As neither of them is a VEGAS product, they will not be discussed on this forum as per the advice from the VEGAS Team.

Please see VEGAS PRO, POST and MOVIE STUDIO users PLEASE READ HERE FIRST.

I also think this thread pretty much discussed the situation:. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/movie-studio-18-has-nothing-to-do-with-vegas-movie-studio--130401/

zaubermac wrote on 11/30/2021, 6:46 PM

@vkmast I think you are correct. I missed the 'upgrade' offer to MS 18, unfortunately I found out about this with the one just released. I don't want to hijack the forum and I will mark this thread as solved with your solution. My intent was not to discuss the program, but rather the choice to sell it on Vegas as a Vegas upgrade. Magix will do as it will and with a little luck, users will make an informed choice about what they being offered.

Everyone have a Happy and Healthy Holidays!

NattyLumpkins wrote on 12/10/2021, 11:50 AM

Well hells bells. I did not know this until you just posted it and I thought it was a Vegas product. I'm really surprised Magix can get away with this! What a bunch of slime balls. Live and learn.

sergeyf wrote on 12/19/2021, 5:51 AM

Well, I dunno how is muddying the waters here. But before it seemed both companies work very well together.

I have MVS17 and I bought it from the Magix shop but as regstered product I see Vegas Movie Studio. The link from the software still points to this website and the home page under vegascreativesoftware.com sells MVS2022 wich is a different product and has no relation to Vegas as OP says.

So, I'm confused as hell. If you don't have relations with Magix why do you sell their products?

vkmast wrote on 12/19/2021, 6:09 AM

MAGIX is the parent company. "Over the coming months, the VEGAS and MAGIX websites will likely be reconfigured to reflect the change in branding for Movie Studio." Unfortunately that has not happened yet and it continues to cause this confusion.

zaubermac wrote on 12/19/2021, 11:30 AM

@vkmast Thanks for sharing that. I truly wish them no malice, but I would like to see the situation clarified. VMS was always an intro platform for Vegas. If the current program was my only Vegas experience, it wouldn’t encourage me to invest further.

Tewt wrote on 1/6/2022, 3:29 PM

Looking at the Movie Studio 2022 product page, I see the only option for purchase is subscription based? Is there an option for a one-time purchase? I'm not a fan of subscription services for consumer video products.

vkmast wrote on 1/6/2022, 4:00 PM

@Tewt please choose a "payment plan" to see options in the opening menu. There is also a perpetual license (one-time purchase) option if you look carefully.

Going forward, please note that Movie Studio 2022 is now a MAGIX product (even though it's still listed on the VEGAS product pages) and support for it is not available on this VEGAS Community forum. However, support for it is available at https://www.magix.info/us/video-forum/movie-edit-pro/

Tewt wrote on 1/6/2022, 4:07 PM

Found it. Thank you. I qualified for an upgrade. I know it is different from previous Movie Studios but at only $60, i'm willing to give it a try and it is the same company that did good work on the previous Vegas Studios. I'm hoping with a new platform they will not be limited by old technology such as getting video acceleration working across a wider range of video cards or just working at all.

zaubermac wrote on 1/6/2022, 8:59 PM

@Tewt

Greetings!

I too received that coupon and which lead me to this post.... I would encourage you to try the demo before buying? I'm a longtime Vegas peep, but this is not an upgrade (at least directly) to Vegas, but an entirely different program. I uninstalled it the same day. YMMV.

I would offer up though, that Vegas Edit is an excellent program and a feature upgrade to your existing Vegas. :D