V15 4K Render Benchmarks

fr0sty wrote on 8/31/2017, 8:50 PM

I wanted to make one benchmark we all could run with the same settings. I followed directions from another poster on here (forgive me for forgetting the name, I wasn't able to pull up the thread in question with a quick search) for upscaling the Vegas Pro benchmark to 4K to test VP14. I figured I'd upload the upscaled assets and project file for those who don't want to bother with doing the project settings changes and upscaling of the 1080p files themselves. Hopefully I did it all right, correct me if I messed up somewhere and I will update the files.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwKM6eSvC3wqX0Z4U0NBbzdrMTQ

 

Just download the media folder (also has the 1080p assets in it) and the project file and you are good to go.

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fr0sty wrote on 8/31/2017, 8:50 PM

Ryzen 7 1800x (stock speed)

32GB 3000mhz DDR4 (stock speed)

Nvidia GTX 970 GPU

Results:

4K 29.97fps Magix AVC NVENC: 6:04

4K 29.97fpsMagix AVC CPU: 8:11 (Vegas 14 MC AVC Speed: 8:17)

Magix 29.97fps AVC 1080p NVENC: 2:45

Magix 29.97fps AVC 1080p CPU: 3:17 - (Vegas 14 MC AVC 1080: 3:14)

XAVC-I 3840x2160 29.97p: 20:11 - (Vegas 14 Speed: 21:52)

XDCAM EX 1080p 29.97fps 2:36 (Vegas 14 Speed: 2:28)

DVD Architech DVD 480i (4:3 aspect): 2:45 (Vegas 14 Speed: 2:27)

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Peter_P wrote on 9/1/2017, 12:54 AM

I wanted to make one benchmark we all could run with the same settings. I followed directions from another poster on here (forgive me for forgetting the name, I wasn't able to pull up the thread in question with a quick search) for upscaling the Vegas Pro benchmark to 4K to test VP14.

I assume you mean this thread/post.

So you now get for 4K 29.97fps Magix AVC NVENC: 6:04 the same time as before without upscaling during the rendering?

 

fr0sty wrote on 9/1/2017, 1:21 AM

If I use the stock Vegas benchmark project with 1080p assets, and upscale to 4K by setting the project settings for 4K and using the 4K NVENC Magix AVC encoder preset, I have a render time of 1:21. If I upscale all of the assets to 4K MXF files (as in the media and project file linked to above) including upscaling the PNG still images, and do the same render settings (4K Magix AVC with NVENC), the render time is 6:04.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Peter_P wrote on 9/1/2017, 2:34 AM

I really would not have expected that. Would be quite interesting to compare real UHDp30 XAVC-S footage. Could you please try then MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4  - Internet 4k with NVENC

using

http://www.dkamera.de/media/testberichte/sony/cyber-shot-dsc-rx10-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video02.MP4

From this site : http://www.dkamera.de/testbericht/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-rx10-iii/beispielaufnahmen.html

Rendering this 25;16 long clip to UHDp30 using QSV takes 25s (F=1.0) on my i7-6700k system.

To UHDp30 Intel HEVC 30-40Mbps it takes 35s (F=1.4).

fr0sty wrote on 9/1/2017, 3:58 AM

4K NVENC AVC takes 30 seconds.

4K Magix AVC CPU Only: 1:29

UHDp30 HEVC 30-40mbps: 3:10

The default preset was 40-80mbps, not 30-40, so I ran it too. That clocked in at: 3:08

What are you referring to by (F=X.X)?

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Peter_P wrote on 9/1/2017, 4:12 AM

4K NVENC AVC takes 30 seconds. + / Intel QSV 25s

4K Magix AVC CPU Only: 1:29 + / i7-6700k 2:16

UHDp30 HEVC 30-40mbps: 3:10 + / Intel QSV 35s

What are you referring to by (F=X.X)?


Thanks for testing.

For easy comparing I calculate with F the factor of realtime uses e.g. F = render_time / clip_real_time.

I just added the CPU only value on my system : / i7-6700k 2:16

fr0sty wrote on 9/1/2017, 4:18 AM

Definitely makes me want to check out the 10 series Nvidia GPUs. That's a pretty nice improvement on render speed. That will shave off days and days worth of render time for me each year.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Peter_P wrote on 9/1/2017, 4:34 AM

Yes, I render UHD mainly to HEVC. That is better played on my hardware and it's really fast with Vegas pro.

bipwave wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:42 AM

Definitely makes me want to check out the 10 series Nvidia GPUs. That's a pretty nice improvement on render speed. That will shave off days and days worth of render time for me each year.

I test gtx970 and gtx1080 and the time of render is the same. :(

fr0sty wrote on 9/1/2017, 12:21 PM

Can you post your 1080 render times using the benchmark or the mp4 file peter P linked to above? I only need to see the NVENC ones. Just curious about exactly how close they are.

 

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Former user wrote on 9/1/2017, 3:07 PM

Hi fr0sty, not sure if you have seen this thread, I did the red car fhd test using nvenc ...

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/any-improvement-in-rendering-speed-with-vegas-pro-15--108314/#ca667331

fr0sty wrote on 9/1/2017, 4:06 PM

That is considerably faster than the 1:21 I got with my GTX 970, so I guess the 1080 benefits render times after all?

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Former user wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:02 PM

"using the 4K NVENC Magix AVC encoder preset, I have a render time of 1:21"

I just used the FHD render template, if you are rendering to 4K it'll take longer.

bitman wrote on 9/2/2017, 2:10 PM

I really would not have expected that. Would be quite interesting to compare real UHDp30 XAVC-S footage. Could you please try then MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4  - Internet 4k with NVENC

using

http://www.dkamera.de/media/testberichte/sony/cyber-shot-dsc-rx10-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video02.MP4

From this site : http://www.dkamera.de/testbericht/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-rx10-iii/beispielaufnahmen.html

Rendering this 25;16 long clip to UHDp30 using QSV takes 25s (F=1.0) on my i7-6700k system.

To UHDp30 Intel HEVC 30-40Mbps it takes 35s (F=1.4).

Here are the results from the Belgian jury 🍺 GTX Titan-x (maxwell) and i7 4790k, 16G RAM

Tests A: Nvidea (GTX TITAN-X) selected in preferences video tab

4K Magix NVENC AVC takes 35s 

4K Magix INTEL QSV takes 30s

4K Magix AVC CPU Only takes 2:38

UHDp30 HEVC 30-40mbps takes 4:39

Tests B: INTEL (4600) selected in preferences video tab

4K Magix NVENC AVC takes 1:01  

4K Magix INTEL QSV takes 57s

4K Magix AVC CPU Only takes 2:37

UHDp30 HEVC 30-40mbps takes 4:43

And the winning combination (on my setup) is strangely enough: selecting nvidea HW acceleration, but rendering in INTEL QSV

Renderings were repeated max 3x to check abnormal runtime deviations.

Note that I put dynamic ram preview at default 200, normally I put it to zero for stability or to avoid weird artifacts, putting it to zero will increase nvec render time from 35s to 41s on this trial

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bipwave wrote on 9/2/2017, 9:14 PM

using

http://www.dkamera.de/media/testberichte/sony/cyber-shot-dsc-rx10-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video02.MP4

From this site : http://www.dkamera.de/testbericht/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-rx10-iii/beispielaufnahmen.html

This is my test:

GTX 1080 and i7 4930k, 32G RAM

4K Magix NVENC AVC takes 29s 

4K Magix AVC CPU Only takes 2:20s

Peter_P wrote on 9/3/2017, 1:26 AM

And the winning combination (on my setup) is strangely enough: selecting nvidea HW acceleration, but rendering in INTEL QSV

That's not really 'strange' because in this combination the load is spread to the two GPUs. One for decoding, the other for encoding in rendering and shows again the power of the integrated Intel GPU.

NickHope wrote on 9/3/2017, 7:36 AM

...I wasn't able to pull up the thread in question with a quick search) for upscaling the Vegas Pro benchmark to 4K to test VP14....

OldSmoke's instructions for converting the 1080 benchmark to 4k were in this comment, but better to use fr0sty's pre-made version in the OP.

To do this properly (i.e. standardizing and visualizing the results), someone needs to maintain a spreadsheet of results like @Hulk did in this thread back in 2013 (follow his link in the post). Could be done on Google Drive (Sheets). Here's the info needed from each poster in order to get the whole picture:

  • Name
  • Vegas Version
  • Windows Version
  • CPU and Clockspeed
  • GPU (& maybe speed, memory)
  • GPU Driver Version
  • Dynamic RAM Preview
  • Preview Performance at Best (Full)
  • GPU used for acceleration of video processing
  • Render Encode Mode
  • Format
  • Render Time


Fancy it @fr0sty? Otherwise could be potentially done on the moderators' Google Drive account.

Former user wrote on 9/3/2017, 8:46 AM

When I attempt to access frostys media I get a message saying that there being zipped up, goes on forever, gave up, why not make all of the files available in a single downloadable zip?

fr0sty wrote on 9/3/2017, 10:37 AM

I'll work on that later tonight.

ChrisR wrote on 5/9/2018, 4:58 AM

Hello,

 

Can you please update the download link? It comes back with a 404 error. Maybe someone else can upload it as well so we can dual source?

vkmast wrote on 5/9/2018, 5:14 AM

If you're referring to Sony Vegas Pro 11 (Red Car) benchmark download, the link in section 4 of https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-graphics-cards-gpu-acceleration-for-vegas-pro--104614/ still works.

NickHope wrote on 5/9/2018, 5:15 AM

The original Sony Vegas Pro 11 benchmark project and media can be downloaded (slowly) from here: https://web.archive.org/web/20131113061953/http://download.sonycreativesoftware.com/whitepapers/vp11_benchmark.zip then it can be updated using the OldSmoke method that I referred to above.