vegas pro 14 upgrade price

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Quitter wrote on 10/26/2016, 6:45 PM

You will save $350 with this upgrade compared to the regular price of VP14, which is $599.00
Again: $599.00 is the regular price, not the regular upgrade-price
Is this really so difficult to understand?

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vkmast wrote on 10/26/2016, 6:55 PM

Strange way to read 😉 (Quitter 10/26/16 01:26 AM EEST)

Why? It says save $350 and quotes the regular upgrade price as $599.95. It's also presented as a special offer via email underlining the fact that the regular price is more. Please explain how you read it then. (Kit 10/27/16 01:17 AM EEST)

They can prevent so much discomfort or confusion if they would make it like Sony.
Clear and upgrades only with serial number --- (plus a shot from the past) (Quitter 10/26/16 06:19 AM EEST)

--- Quitter's blast from the past is spot-on.(vkmast 10/26/16 11:47 AM EEST)

I guess it might be read in that "strange way" as Quitter puts it. You can also read Vegas Pro 14 to be regularly $599. (vkmast 10/26/16 02:08 EEST)

(Just to entertain some of you that may be burning the midnight oil (in Europe, that is))

I agreed that the heading may have a certain ambiguity, as Quitter himself implies in a later comment, but nowhere in the offer does it say "the regular upgrade price".

You can easily read the offer this way as well (Vegas Pro 14, Regularly $599.95, $249.00 Upgrade offer)

I admit I've been critical myself on aspects of this topic, but for me this argument does not quite hold water.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/27/2016, 1:37 AM

It says save $350 and quotes the regular upgrade price as $599.95.

Where did you find the wording "regular upgrade price $599"??

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Tim Stannard wrote on 10/27/2016, 2:54 AM

It says save $350 and quotes the regular upgrade price as $599.95.

Where did you find the wording "regular upgrade price $599"??

Convention imples it.

In the advert Kit-As-Was the Heading says "Vegas 14 Upgrade" and underneath in small type it says "regularly $599" and there's a flash saying "Save $350". It is expected that small type under a heading relates to the product in the heading unless something clearly distinguishes it.

If the small type had said "Full product $599" that would be a different matter.

However I wouldn't have read it that way, as the company had already broken with convention by implying that existing Vegas Pro 13 users would get a better offer than the $199 V13 Pro + Upgrade.

 

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/27/2016, 4:07 AM

I do not know what "convention implies it" means. What is that? Is that a legal binding offer? Had someone to pay that by now? Or will someone pay that in future? So I do not know really what you mean by "convention". Was a pricing for  $599 for an upgrade written down somewhere? Was it charged for an upgrade?

The question was specific: where was this wording used? Or even more specific: where was that price for an upgrade written down?

I ask that very explizit, because that has the implication that somebody has or will have to pay $599 for an upgrade.

But I have never seen such a pricing. So if there no clear answer to that question then this statement is simply wrong.

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Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 10/27/2016, 9:11 AM

Hi,

I'm very confused.

As a user since Vegas 6 I have seny my money to SCS every time there was a upgrade. Pricing has been reasonable and I always got some value for the money. I have been a registered member of the Sony Vegas Forum my first Vegas purchase. Sony never sent any infomation to me about selling off this software. No nothing. Indicates how much the cared about ther soon former customers...

After reading in the SCS forum about this (MAGIX puchasing Vegas) I also registered with Magix. I receive from them all kinds of software offers, but I have NEVER received any upgrade offers for Vegas!!! No nothing. Opening VP13 offered an upgrade ONCE, to the ridiculous pirce of 249$. I declined and Vegas has never suggested again an upgrade...

About the "upragde"; I have a fully functioning version of DVDA6. I have a fully stable version of VP13 (when not using the GPU). An "upgrade" to VP14 would cost me 249$. There are no remarkable new features added that would be of any value for me. And looking at the release details there are mostly lot of bug fixes - and those should be free or not cost ridiculous 249€. Additionally - the dysfunctional GPU rendering is not repaired but the problem is (hopefully temporarily) solved by turning it off in the internal settings as a default. Some features are removed in VP14 without even mentioning about them (like AC3 Pro audio encoding). This is not fair or honest behaviour from a professional company.

Why should I pay 249$ for a bug fix release that gives me nothing new, actually less? It's a total rip off.

For the first time I am going to skip the upgrade, it would be just waste of money. How MAGIX handles us long timers is not prudent. The price is ridiculous, not to mention that people were fooled by MAGIX to wait and not to puchase the first offer where you could get both VP13 and the upcoming VP14 for a lower price! MAGIX has never sent any "upgrade" offers to my email (yes I have checked the spam filters) even if they have my email address directly, and via the SCS database. I feel offended by this ignorance from MAGIX...

The situation could change if they offer something with real value - a working GPU acceleration - some new neat features like motiong tracking or noise filtering - sorry MAGIX, for solidarity I'm not going to pay 249€ for this bug fix and crippled version. I can buy professional (Final Cut) video editing software for less than this "upgrade" price!  Some very competent professional video editing software is even free...

Interesting to see if this "offer" will be further extended beyond 30th of october.... I had big hopes for the MAGIX takeover but so far it has been a disappointment.

Christian

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rbofaz wrote on 10/27/2016, 10:49 AM

It is becoming obvious that Magix has no regard or respect to the loyal customers from Sony Software. While they did offer a reasonable upgrade if current owners of Vegas Pro 13, purchased a 2nd copy of Vegas Pro 13, they would receive a copy of Vegas Pro 14 when it came out for $199. While myself and most of the current registered owners of Vegas Pro 13 did not reply to that offer because we DID NOT NEED A 2ND COPY OF VEGAS PRO 13. Common sense told us that Magix would be sending us an offer to upgrade to Vegas Pro 14 Pro, without Vegas Pro 13, for a better price. That has never happened. Instead Magix is offering an “UPGRADE” to Vegas Pro 14 to anyone, NO PROOF OF PREVIOUS VERSION  NEEDED, for $249. So basically, Magix is not even offering an upgrade price to Vegas Pro 14, since anyone can purchase it for $249. If you read the forums you will see how many customers Magix is losing over this. My guess is that Magix also does not realize, or even care, that many of the Sony Software customers, myself included, also own SoundForge and SpectraLayers Pro. From the way Magix is treating the loyal Sony Software customers Magix will be losing all of those sales also.

OldSmoke wrote on 10/27/2016, 11:21 AM

Christian, rbofaz

This has been mentioned over and over again in this thread until MAGIX decided to shut the thread down and sweep this matter under the rug.

Keep in mind that we where loyal SCS users which has absolutely NO meaning in Magix book. We came with the purchase of the software but we are sure a PITA to MAGIX as we have not yet made any contripution in their books; which is clearly reflected in this statement:

"What you used to pay with Sony and what the price is now are not relevant."⚠️

 

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Spectralis wrote on 10/27/2016, 1:12 PM

I've given up hope that the upgrade price will become cheaper. I did eventually receive an upgrade email but the price was still $249 and as stated by Christian this price is available to everyone. If these upgrades are available to anyone then why not wait until VP15? That's what I intend to do. I know it's  a PITA but if Magix isn't prepared to compromise then nor am I.

xberk wrote on 10/27/2016, 1:38 PM

The $249 comes with Mercalli V4 plugin worth $149 .. and Mercalli CMOS Fixr plugin worth $149 .. and NewBlue Titler Pro Express .. worth something???? .. The problem with this bundle is that NewBlueFx crashes V14 and Mercalli V4 plugin takes longer and produces only marginally better results than the Sony Stablizer.  But in theory the extra software was an attempt to make the $249 a bargain.  I think most old Vegas users would be happier without the bundle and an upgrade to V14 for $100 ...  my two cents after I paid the $249.  

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Spectralis wrote on 10/27/2016, 3:28 PM

I've already got Mercalli and the Titler so I'd prefer it if Magix concentrated on adding more features to Vegas than including 3rd party FX. I thought the VP13 upgrade was a let down and this one is even more so when it comes to new Vegas features. I realise it was done in a rush to satisfy us but sometimes it's better to hold back until it's really outstanding. 

Kinvermark wrote on 10/27/2016, 4:05 PM

and Mercalli V4 plugin takes longer and produces only marginally better results than the Sony Stablizer. 

Not to be disagreeable  😀, but...

I find Mercalli 4 both way faster and far better than Sony stabilizer (Mercalli v2?), plus you can apply it as regular effect to timeline event (trimmed?) as opposed to mediaFX to entire clip.... plus it doesn't crash on 4k footage.

DeadRadioStar wrote on 10/27/2016, 6:01 PM
Why should I pay 249$ for a bug fix release that gives me nothing new, actually less?

My experience has been identical, as is my reaction - I will not be paying for VP14.  In my opinion this is not an upgrade offer, it's an offer to re-purchase a broken version of more or less the same product, in which none of my existing 3rd-party add-ons will work.

dlion wrote on 10/28/2016, 11:48 AM

they lost me too. i'll maybe look at v15, but by then i'll have logged more time on resolve, so it would really have to wow me, the way resolve 12.5.2 does now...

Tech Diver wrote on 10/29/2016, 10:34 AM

Magix has pretty much lost me as well. VP14 is a lot of money for very little improvement. As a result of these events, I am again examining other editors. Thus far I have been working with trial version of Avid and Edius, and have found the latter to be pretty close to Vegas in its workflow paradigm. The one notable Vegas feature that no others seems to have is the ability to create transitions by merely sliding one clip over another. However, if I have to I can live without that though I will miss it. Another motivating factor for me is that my work in academia entiles me to some great pricing. Namely, a perpetual Avid license for $295, and an Edius one for $199. I can also leverage most of my plugings without the need to repurchase. I will continue my evaluation of editors and as you can see there really isn't too much reason for me to be loyal to Magix.

Peter

VidMus wrote on 10/29/2016, 8:25 PM

This non-upgrade has just been extended to November 18th.

ushere wrote on 10/29/2016, 9:21 PM

they can extend it indefinitely for all i care - there's no way i'm going to pay for a bug fix that introduces worse bugs.

i'll look at 15, but i don't like the way magix has gone about handling ANYTHING so far...

John_Cline wrote on 10/30/2016, 5:35 AM

I've upgraded to every version starting from Vegas 2.0 up to Vegas Pro v13, I'm going to pass on Vegas v14 altogether so it doesn't matter to me what the upgrade price is, I'm not paying it.

wilvan wrote on 10/30/2016, 5:51 AM

Same here . Following media composer lessons now in my spare time , what a petty .

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Spectralis wrote on 10/30/2016, 7:20 AM

Perhaps they thought we were so desperate that we'd go for anything? Including paying higher "upgrade" prices.

Sedazin wrote on 10/30/2016, 2:45 PM

The strange "upgrade" offer for everybody has been extended ... looks like they are still looking for customers ... but hold tight and do not let them fool you, Black Friday is just around the corner and I would not be surprised if they come up with a $199 offer for new Vegas Pro 14 licenses.

DeadRadioStar wrote on 10/30/2016, 8:35 PM

Black Friday is just around the corner and I would not be surprised if they come up with a $199 offer for new Vegas Pro 14 licenses.

At this stage, I won't consider anything more that $100 given that I already felt stung by the VP12->VP13 "upgrade", and the only reason I would even consider that is because I don't want to see Vegas die .... but it's been on life-support for a long time now, so ....

Kinvermark wrote on 10/30/2016, 11:34 PM

Yawn..... do you guys have anything NEW to add?    This must be the 1000th post moaning about the price.

VidMus wrote on 10/30/2016, 11:50 PM

Yawn..... do you guys have anything NEW to add?    This must be the 1000th post moaning about the price.

Another moan, a nap until November 8, 2016, vote, then another moan and then another nap until spring.