VEGAS Pro 22 Build 194 General Discussion

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paul-marshall wrote on 11/1/2024, 2:04 PM

Thanks Derek, sorry I missed that announcment. Should be a very useful feature.

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UltraVista wrote on 11/1/2024, 6:30 PM

@pierre-k I fact checked you on your post about DRP not working anymore. I can't see it here so unless you posted that claim in the main forum section you may have already fact checked yourself. DRP works fine and you do see performance increase with it turned on

yves-sarrut wrote on 11/2/2024, 3:02 AM

Bonjour, dans Vegas Pro 22, lorsque je suis dans la fenêtre média du projet, des vignettes de couleurs vertes s'affichent, mais sans images, seulement du son !
 

Gregorcat wrote on 11/2/2024, 11:25 AM

Hello.After upgrading from Vegas Pro 22 to Vegas Pro Suite 22. The artificial intelligence effects do not appear. The same thing has happened to someone else.

jetdv wrote on 11/2/2024, 6:33 PM

@Gregorcat Install the newest Deep Learning Model???

3d87c4 wrote on 11/2/2024, 11:50 PM

I was unable to download the new features pdf mentioned in the News post. Also, trying to go directly to the web address was blocked.

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Michelle-Foss wrote on 11/3/2024, 1:00 AM

I made a comment about non Vegas Hub MP4 video portion not reading this version and build in another thread! This fact is video software broken! Vegas Hub barely downloads one of its versions of an MP4 that does move to a timeline with video, however the video library works once then gives up! Then Vegas Pro 22.0 stalls, fits, stops, starts, blanks, comes back. Please advise asap. Vegas engineers - those people.

Gregorcat wrote on 11/3/2024, 2:17 AM

Good morning. I have reinstalled the program again and now everything works correctly. Thank you so much Jetdv.

vkmast wrote on 11/3/2024, 4:28 AM

@3d87c4  (these workarounds helped me download)

(Chrome) highlight and copy the URL, paste and open, keep

(Edge) click "this document", click the URL, (in downloads;) keep, keep anyway

Sr_Garcia wrote on 11/3/2024, 4:46 AM

Some video sequences are not displayed in the Editing Line, but are visible in the Preview Screen.
This happens with videos that have already been edited...
 

 

------------------------- EXIF data of the sequence ----------------------

General
Nom complet                              : D:\_ MAGATZEM entrada\[_V I D E O S   per visualitzar_]\Girona.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Perfil format                            : Base Media / Version 2
ID còdec                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
Mida de l'arxiu                          : 564 MiB
Durada                                   : 3 min 58 s
Mode general velocitat bits              : Variable
Velocitat bits general                   : 19,8 Mb/s
Fotogrames per segon                     : 25,000 FPS
Data de codificació                      : 2022-10-21 17:55:36 UTC
Data d'etiquetatge                       : 2022-10-21 17:55:36 UTC

Vídeo
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Perfil format                            : High@L4.1
Ajustos del perfil                       : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Ajustos del perfil, CABAC                : Sí
Ajustos del perfil, RefFrames            : 3 fotogrames
Ajustos del perfil, GOP                  : M=1, N=30
ID còdec                                 : avc1
ID còdec/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Durada                                   : 3 min 58 s
Taxa de bits                             : 19,6 Mb/s
Amplada                                  : 1 920 píxels
Alçada                                   : 1 080 píxels
Relació d'aspecte                        : 16:9
Mode fotogrames per segon                : Constant
Fotogrames per segon                     : 25,000 FPS
Espai de color                           : YUV
Submostreig croma                        : 4:2:0
Profunditat de bits                      : 8 bits
Tipus d'escaneig                         : Progressiu
Bits/(píxel*fotograma)                   : 0.378
Mida pista                               : 558 MiB (99%)
Idioma                                   : Anglès
Data de codificació                      : 2022-10-21 17:55:37 UTC
Data d'etiquetatge                       : 2022-10-21 17:55:37 UTC
Gama de color                            : Limited
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Àudio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
ID còdec                                 : mp4a-40-2
Durada                                   : 3 min 58 s
Mode de taxa de bits                     : Variable
Taxa de bits                             : 192 kb/s
Taxa de bits màxima                      : 489 kb/s
Canal(s)                                 : 2 canals
Channel layout                           : L R
Freqüència de mostreig                   : 48,0 kHz
Fotogrames per segon                     : 46,875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Mode compressió                          : Amb pèrdua
Mida pista                               : 5,39 MiB (1%)
Idioma                                   : Anglès
Data de codificació                      : 2022-10-21 17:55:37 UTC
Data d'etiquetatge                       : 2022-10-21 17:55:37 UTC

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johnny-s wrote on 11/3/2024, 7:02 AM

@JaredF Lucky you.

With VP22 b194.

I just checked the SOOC Canon R5 4k clip that up to now didn't play correctly with Nvidia GPU. No change. Just black frames.

Clip specs: 4K 4096 x 2160, ALL-I, 420 8 bit.

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RogerS wrote on 11/3/2024, 7:29 AM

@johnny-s Did you already make footage available for testing? Happy to try it here with my NVIDIA GPUs.

johnny-s wrote on 11/3/2024, 7:37 AM

@RogerS I think u will get similar results. I no longer have the R5 but do have a test clip from 2021.

Just to understand about the clip. It's shot in camera at 100 fps setting then automatically conformed in camera to 25 fps to give Slomo.

I'll upload link shortly.

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johnny-s wrote on 11/3/2024, 7:42 AM

@RogerS

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fn9xf98vw4o8udiwayq6c/APCzjbI5JzQfezJBLJCKsRg?rlkey=91mb4xo7dhtezpns0va4o72zz&dl=0

I haven't got around to testing same clip in Mk. II. If it's not working in Mk. I then unlikely to be any different outcome.

The reason I mention this now is that I understand that Magix/VP are interested in getting improvements in file handling etc.

BTW the nvenc rendering stop/start issue hasn't yet been fixed.

 

 

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RogerS wrote on 11/3/2024, 7:59 AM

You're right, it's full of black frames here with my RTX 2080. I wonder if the issue for VEGAS is the unusually high bitrate? Hopefully others can test it as well.

I haven't seen any changes to encoding. I think the decoding and video engine are big enough tasks to get working first.

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Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark (works with VP 16+): https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark (works with VP 20+): https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

johnny-s wrote on 11/3/2024, 8:30 AM

Well, the good news for me anyway is that my previous assumption was incorrect. The R5 II equivalent XFVC format plays ok with no black frames. i.e. 100 fps conformed to 25 fps without audio. The extra HFR codec in the R5 II that wasn't in the R5 ..100 fps with audio, not conformed in camera also plays ok.

Thanks for testing.

Probably not a data rate issue, the newer version that does work is only a bit smaller than the original R5 .. 351 vs 441 Mbps.

The 100fps not conformed in R5 II camera that also works in VP is 1,425 Mbps. Probably some codec issue.

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3d87c4 wrote on 11/3/2024, 11:03 AM

@vkmast: Thanks. The problem was windows or McAfee blocking the "insecure download"---but it took a couple of tries to figure it out...

One attempt, copying just the basic dropbox URL, had me having to login to dropbox...

Another failed because the period at the end of the sentence got copied & fouled the link...

When I finally got to a download, the rejection message was so brief I barely had time to tell my system to "keep" the download anyway.

After all that...does it discuss new features in this release, or is it a copy of the version from the original V22 release? I haven't looked yet, sorry.

 

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UltraVista wrote on 11/3/2024, 4:35 PM

@JaredF Lucky you.

With VP22 b194.

I just checked the SOOC Canon R5 4k clip that up to now didn't play correctly with Nvidia GPU. No change. Just black frames.

Clip specs: 4K 4096 x 2160, ALL-I, 420 8 bit.

@johnny-s A very dangerous memory leak that could crash other software running or even Windows before you even know what's going on.

It looks like those non-rendered frames that don't show are eating away your system memory and won't be released.

 

 

johnny-s wrote on 11/3/2024, 4:51 PM

Very interesting indeed.

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joseph-desaavedra wrote on 11/3/2024, 6:36 PM

I am on the newest version of 22. How to make auto preview button stay on all the time?? Otherwise this version is a ton more stable and easy to use.

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iEmby wrote on 11/4/2024, 1:57 AM

thanks @VEGASDerek & team for keep improving VEGAS day by day.

thanks for solving 3 issues I complained about.

just one issue is still there.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/double-click-is-not-loading-video-in-trimmer-from-explorer--147269/

I hope you will try to fix it in next update..

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EricLNZ wrote on 11/4/2024, 3:05 AM

Some video sequences are not displayed in the Editing Line, but are visible in the Preview Screen.
This happens with videos that have already been edited...

@Sr_Garcia This is the only thing I can think of. This is actually from VP21 but I assume VP22 is similar.

Sr_Garcia wrote on 11/4/2024, 6:03 AM

Some video sequences are not displayed in the Editing Line, but are visible in the Preview Screen.
This happens with videos that have already been edited...

@Sr_Garcia This is the only thing I can think of. This is actually from VP21 but I assume VP22 is similar.

EricLNZ Thank you for your interest and help.

In VP 22 it is the same as in VP 21, but I have this option activated since "always".
I don't understand why it only affects some videos, especially those that have been edited. They appear in black in the Edit Line but I can preview and edit them...(!)

bitman wrote on 11/5/2024, 5:18 AM

in the Preference/General tab there is an option Dx11 output.

What does this mean?


@pierre-k good question, I usually leave most defaults as they are, given a few exceptions, but this one may be interesting to enable. My best guess is to enable the use of Microsoft window's DX11 API for rendering specific stuff (like it is implemented in UNITY: Depth of field, noise and grain effect, motion blur effect) or maybe even everything... which can improve performance if it is HW accelerated. But I really do not know, it is my best guess. It maybe even something put in for future use of FX features yet to come, who knows !

@VEGASDerek or someone else from the team to explain what it does, or if we should enable it or not (if there are disadvantages)

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