Bye Sony, Hi Magix !

Grazie wrote on 5/27/2016, 10:28 PM

NH "I personally wouldn't see it as a problem if my MAGIX account and forum logins were separate. That's pretty common."Agreed. However, I have to seriously applaud Set's untrammeled, exuberant and unbridled enthusiasm.

G

Grazie wrote on 5/27/2016, 10:38 PM

Set, I can't add to another Members Forum, it's not just the one you provided.

Actually, do note that the other Forums setup there don't have anything added after July 2014. That's kinda worrying, if it isn't just creeping apathy for that section, "The Lights Are On But Nobody . . . . . "

Grazie wrote on 5/27/2016, 11:10 PM

Woah!

Those Forums have a membership of 228,182. That's got to be impressive - yeah I know that wont be the "active" membership, for sure, but even still: Pure MAGIX!

(Now, somebody please answer my question on RAW sizing - please.)

set wrote on 5/27/2016, 11:49 PM

Probably the Member Forums, Teams, Exchange section http://www.magix.info/us/forum/6-member-forums-teams-exchange/ has been disabled. Not sure...

But I can post something on off topic and general http://www.magix.info/us/forum/5-off-topic-and-general/, but this section was heavily SPAMed.
The most active only on All About MAGIX's programs http://www.magix.info/us/forum/1-all-about-magixs-programs/

One Video Pro X user's opinion regarding to the acquisition:
http://www.magix.info/us/magix-purchases-sony-creative-software-products-including-vegas-pro.forum.1169102.html

The forum navigation felt slow

Grazie wrote on 5/28/2016, 12:47 AM

Yup, I had read that. I've now successfully posted a reply to it too!

G

set wrote on 5/28/2016, 1:37 AM

First Contact has just been made :)

vkmast wrote on 5/28/2016, 3:28 AM

+ >1 for Nick Hope's comments re forums. The MAGIX forum is a bit of a mess compared to the compactness of these forums.

Larry Clifford wrote on 5/28/2016, 3:55 AM

I would not like to see the current Sony forum "frozen" and have all new entries made in the Magix forum. I guess that would mean the current Sony forum would be read-only.

Also, if the current Sony forum is copied/merged into the Magix forum, I would guess the current Sony forum would no longer be accessible. What will happen to all of the links in the Sony forum that point to other posts? What will happen with user names that are the same.

My first thought is to keep the current Sony forum active for Sony products.

Larry

set wrote on 5/28/2016, 5:36 AM

https://hitfilm.com/forum/
HitFilm's Forum is the most simplest model.

Almost similar to this forum, except the Youtube link are automatically generated.

Gary or Eric, perhaps you can discuss this future forum's issue to Magix ?

bigrock wrote on 5/28/2016, 11:13 AM

I do not see this as good news at all. I have seen the abandonment of product lines before in this way and it has never ended good. It has in fact ended in dead products - those of us from that moved to Vegas from Liquid will understand that. This seems like the end. An indicator of the seriousness of the new company would be how much they paid for this product line. I think this also ends the consideration as Vegas as a serious editor, what major producer is going to use a product from a consumer oriented company like this? Very hard to take seriously. Seems like Sony just dumped it and all of us on the scrap heap.

monoparadox wrote on 5/28/2016, 1:45 PM

Time will tell. However, unless I'm missing something Vegas seems to be the driving force among the products MAGIX just bought from SCS. It doesn't make much sense to make an investment and let Vegas go by the wayside. Methinks, Vegas has the potential to become the driving force at MAGIX. Let's hope so.

-- tom

VidMus wrote on 5/28/2016, 4:24 PM

@ bigrock,

I respectfully disagree with you in this case. Considering what I have read here and elsewhere and certain posts from people I respect a lot, I think this will be a case where Vegas will thrive.

I have seen times when what you said would definitely be the case and had it happen to software I was previously using.

If I am wrong, I will use Vegas until it falls off my computer and then move on. If I am right, I will happily continue using Vegas until I get too old to worry about it anymore. Hmm, my hair which is getting grey is telling me something. ;)

Please think positive on this one.

www.dannyfye.com

Chienworks wrote on 5/28/2016, 7:30 PM

If it were me handling the transition, i'd simply give Magix a complete dump of the entire forum installation, including all software, modules, databases, etc. and let them rebrand it and fire it up on one of their own servers. It would be the fastest, easiest, simplest, most painless, and cheapest way to achieve the transfer. Heck, i'd probably even be nice enough to have the SCS forum login page redirect to Magix' site.

If Magix wanted to change it in the future they certainly could, but in the mean time nothing would change except the URL and the company name at the top of the page.

Josh_Grid21 wrote on 5/29/2016, 7:17 PM

I hate this forum has no email notification, but what's going to happen to those that bought SCS software and have account information? What will happen to our software downloads?? And what's the phone number for Magix? I have a few questions about this buy out. I'll have to leave this tab open just to see my reply. :P

set wrote on 5/29/2016, 9:03 PM

If you google 'Magix Video Pro X review', you will hardly find any review ever done by famous channel, such as VideoMaker.
But different to 'Sony Vegas Pro 13 review', you still find any pro-review for it.

So far I can see, Vegas Pro brand is still more famous than Video Pro X. So, the possibility of 'purchase to kill it' scenario seems very small.

Josh_Grid21 wrote on 5/29/2016, 10:24 PM

I'm just worried about how their gonna transition us from being Sony customers to Magix customers. How are we gonna get support? Will we be getting free upgrades because of the lack of support from Sony all these years.

Mark Remple wrote on 5/31/2016, 11:40 AM

Actually Set, Videomaker did do a review of Video Pro X. It's a couple of years old now, and it's a review of X6 (current version is X8), but it's a relatively favorable review overall.

https://www.videomaker.com/article/c5/17100-magix-video-pro-x6-video-editing-software-review

zdogg wrote on 5/31/2016, 3:02 PM

@ Jamon..

That would make sense, i.e., Magix bought Vegas for the audio, EXCEPT Magix makes two stellar "ProTools level" products (Many like them much better that PTs) : Samplitude and Sequoia, deeper and wider audio programs than Soundforge had, though they were a top notch offering audio wise. 'Audio first' people like Vegas because it is built on a platform, audio timeline editor, that they understand well.

Regards

dream1960 wrote on 5/31/2016, 10:18 PM

Not true...Read on.

Sony Creative Software

Friday, May 20, 2016

Sony Creative Software Sells Majority of Products to MAGIX Software GmbH

Catalyst Production Suite Remains with Sony for Professional Broadcast and Production Applications

Middleton, WIS — Sony Creative Software (SCS) has sold the majority of its products to MAGIX Software GmbH.

SCS will remain a part of Sony Electronics and will continue to own and distribute its Catalyst Browse and Catalyst Production Suites. These products will continue to be developed by Sony for professional broadcast and production applications.

By purchasing the full Vegas Pro, Movie Studio, Sound Forge Pro, and ACID Pro product lines from SCS, MAGIX is further cementing its position in the market and accelerating its international growth as a leading creator of video, music, and photo-editing software and apps in Europe and the U.S.

“The MAGIX team has a unique expertise in software and will breathe new life into these storied media titles for professionals and consumers,” said Alec Shapiro, president, Sony’s Professional Solutions Americas. “Our suite of Catalyst products has carved a unique niche in the production community. We will focus on developing these technologies and making them even more powerful workflow solutions for our professional broadcast and production customers.”

MAGIX will continue to support all current SCS customers to ensure a seamless end user experience. The company has also hired several former SCS employees.

“These products from Sony Creative Software are the perfect addition to our portfolio,” said MAGIX CEO Klaus Schmidt. “We have already strengthened our presence in the United States in order to propel development and sales. This autumn, we plan to release new versions of the video-editing programs Vegas Pro and Movie Studio, which are heavily oriented toward the customer requirements of today.”

The Sony Creative Software team will continue to maintain a presence in the Middleton/Madison, Wis., area.

Questions and Answers

Which specific products were sold to MAGIX?
The following software titles were sold to MAGIX Software GmbH as of May 20, 2016:•Vegas Pro software including Vegas Pro, Vegas Pro Edit, Vegas Pro Suite, Vegas Pro Production Assistant, and Vegas Pro Connect
•DVD Architect Pro and DVD Architect Studio
•Movie Studio software including Movie Studio, Movie Studio Platinum, and Movie Studio Suite
•Sound Forge software including Sound Forge Pro, Sound Forge Pro Mac, Sound Forge Mac, and Sound Forge Audio Studio
•SpectraLayers Pro
•Audio Master Suite and Audio Master Suite Mac
•ACID software including ACID Pro, ACID Music Studio, and ACID Xpress
•Sound Series Production Music and Sound Series Loops & Samples
•ACIDplanet Web Site and Music Assets
•CD Architect
•Noise Reduction Audio Plug-in

Will I still be able to use my existing serial numbers to activate my products if I need to re-install them?

Yes. You may still register your existing serial numbers. Initially the registrations will be carried out at sonycreativesoftware.com. After a transition period the registrations will be seamlessly redirected to MAGIX who is committed to providing continuity of the registration systems, allowing your existing serial number to be registered.

Who do I contact for customer support and what methods are available for that?

At this time, you can continue to send support requests via the Sony Creative Software support portal. Due to staffing changes our response times may be slower than usual, but we will do our best to answer your questions promptly. After a transition period, MAGIX will provide technical support and this site will be updated with further details.

Where can I purchase the acquired products?

You can still purchase software from Sony Creative Software in our web store or at any retailers that have current stock. In the next few months, MAGIX will begin to sell the software from their web store and reseller network at which time it will be removed from the Sony Creative Software web store.

What will happen to the Sony Creative Software community forums for the products that MAGIX acquired?

Sony Creative Software is providing MAGIX with a full copy of each community forum for the acquired products. MAGIX is investigating the possibility of importing this data into their existing forum system. Both parties recognize the value of the forum and past information and are investigating the best way to continue the community. This site will be updated with further details soon.

ushere wrote on 5/31/2016, 11:12 PM

@dream1960

one posting would have sufficed

VideoFreq wrote on 5/31/2016, 11:15 PM

When AVID bought Pinnacle who bought Liquid 7 they stripped the render engine and some other features from Liquid and put it into Pinnacle 11, which was buggy then perfected it with 12. I can't believe I have to go through this every few years.

VideoFreq wrote on 5/31/2016, 11:18 PM

AVID did the same thing with Pinnacle and Liquid. Dumped it and focused on Media Composer overhaul to compete with FCPX.

VideoFreq wrote on 5/31/2016, 11:23 PM

Tom, Xara is a great product. I like it better than Photoshop.

dream1960 wrote on 6/6/2016, 9:18 PM

That link is from may of 2015!