NewBlue Titler products on VP14

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vkmast wrote on 10/5/2016, 6:14 PM

I don't see any of my bundled NBs on my NB account.

jetdv wrote on 10/5/2016, 9:04 PM

Erikd, as long as you are using the OpenFX version of Titler Pro 1 in Vegas Pro 11 or 12, there is no activation or serial number needed. 

i am erikd wrote on 10/6/2016, 5:00 AM

I am using the OpenFX of TitlerPro1 in Vegas Pro 12.  Here are the screen shots.

 

This screenshot shows both the Titler Pro and the new Title Pro Express (which only crashes upon opening)

 

This screenshot shows that it is asking for a serial number to "Activate" the software.

 

Jetdv, can you explain this to me?

 

 

igniz-krizalid wrote on 10/8/2016, 12:32 AM

After this "vegas pro complete" plugins bundled with Vegas pro 14 everything got mixed up in the newbluefx app manager; color fixer, titler pro 4 etc just disappeared, even the new titler pro 4 installer that I recieved yesterday (that it was supposed to fix this issue) didnt work, I couldn't go to titler designer anymore bc of all these titler express predominant thing, plus this useless titler express makes Edius 8 crashed everytime I tried to open, couldnt believe that a very solid program like Edius was also having problems... well, the only solution I found was uninstalling anything related to newbluefx plugins on my pc and reinstalling an older version of titler pro 4 that it worked beatifuly with Edius 8 and Vegas 13 before,and now everything works beatifuly again (including Vegas 14) at the cost of not having "titler express/looks" installed.

Main PC:

MSI X370 Pro Carbon, R7 1800X, OC Nitro RX 480 4Gb, 2X8GB DDR4 3200 CL 14, 850 EVO 500GB SSD, Dark Rock 3 cooler, Dark Power Pro 11 650W Platinum, Serenade PciE CM8888 Sound Card, MultiSync 1200p IPS 16:10 monitor, Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Second PC:

Z170XP-SLI, i7 6700K, Nitro R9 380 4Gb, 2X8GB DDR4 3200 CL 16, MX200 500 SSD, MasterAir Pro 4 cooler, XFX PRO 650W Core Edition 80+ Bronze, Xonar D1 7.1 Ch Sound Card, NEC MultiSync 1200p IPS 16:10 monitor, Windows 10 pro 64bit

FocusOnVegas wrote on 10/8/2016, 5:23 AM

...well, the only solution I found was uninstalling anything related to newbluefx plugins on my pc and reinstalling an older version of titler pro 4 that it worked beatifuly with Edius 8 and Vegas 13 before,and now everything works beatifuly again (including Vegas 14) at the cost of not having "titler express/looks" installed.

This is more ore less what I did with Titler Pro 2 : installing an older (DirextX?) version of Titler Pro 2, see my website for instructions.

I have contacted NewBlueFX support  and got this response:
"We are aware of the issue and are currently working on an update to Titler Pro 2 that will be compatible with Vegas Pro 14. However, Titler Pro 2 will over-install Titler Pro Express, you will not be able to have them installed at the same time."

The good news : it seems that there 'll be an (OFX?) version of Titler Pro 2 (full) that 'll work with Vegas Pro 14.
The bad news : installing Titler Pro Express again in the future 'll possible still change existing Titler Pro (2)installations(?)

Request to Magix for future bugfix releases and new versions :
Make installers where you can choose to install or not to install NewBlueFX Titler express.
Otherwise you 'll frustrate many customers.

At the moment Titler Pro express isn't even adware (but "destroyware") for existing users with previous installations of Titler Pro (2, full). Even after a release of a Vegas 14 compatable installer of NewBlueFX Titler Pro (2) I have to avoid the installation of Titler Pro express versions.

Besides that I don't understand anything of the marketing of Magix and NewBlueFX. Probably Magix (and the customers who upgraded like me)  paid licenses for Titler Pro 3 express, that is useless in combination with installations of older (paid) Pro versions of Titler Pro. If your existing software even can't be installed together with a stripped-down version (express), how do you expect customers to upgrade to newer versions of NewBlueTitler Pro (full) or Vegas Pro?

 

 

igniz-krizalid wrote on 10/8/2016, 7:28 AM

Request to Magix for future bugfix releases and new versions :
Make installers where you can choose to install or not to install NewBlueFX Titler express.
Otherwise you 'll frustrate many customers.

 

 

 

I agree 100%, I don't know what newbluefx team were thinking before releasing a bundle like this that makes full paid versions of their other products irrelevant, not so funny!

Main PC:

MSI X370 Pro Carbon, R7 1800X, OC Nitro RX 480 4Gb, 2X8GB DDR4 3200 CL 14, 850 EVO 500GB SSD, Dark Rock 3 cooler, Dark Power Pro 11 650W Platinum, Serenade PciE CM8888 Sound Card, MultiSync 1200p IPS 16:10 monitor, Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Second PC:

Z170XP-SLI, i7 6700K, Nitro R9 380 4Gb, 2X8GB DDR4 3200 CL 16, MX200 500 SSD, MasterAir Pro 4 cooler, XFX PRO 650W Core Edition 80+ Bronze, Xonar D1 7.1 Ch Sound Card, NEC MultiSync 1200p IPS 16:10 monitor, Windows 10 pro 64bit

jetdv wrote on 10/8/2016, 8:58 PM

Erikd, that activation screen does not look correct for Titler Pro 1 and you will not need to activate Titler Pro 1 anyway. Please use this installer: http://www.newbluefx.com/downloads/Windows/NewBlueTitlerProForWindowsSetup10-131217.exe

 

The bundled versions from NewBlue were tested on a beta of VP14. After that beta, changes were made that affected our plugins. Unfortunately, we were unaware of those changes until very shortly before VP14 was released so, yes, unfortunately we are still playing catch-up to those changes.

i am erikd wrote on 10/9/2016, 1:49 AM

Jetdv, the link you gave is precisely the same link that I used as an installer.  Exactly the same.  It seems there are two things that you should be aware of:

1) My Titler Pro1 was uninstalled by the TitleExpress install in Vegas pro 14.

2) Using the installer link you provided will reinstall Titler Pro 1 but it will ask for a serial number to activate.

MikeyDH wrote on 10/11/2016, 12:11 PM

Why doesn't my TP3 which is listed in Media Generators not work in my trial of VP14. New Blue Problem or a Magix problem?

andyrpsmith wrote on 10/11/2016, 1:27 PM

It's all broken at the moment. We are all waiting for NewBlue to post a fix.

Andy

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

skyml wrote on 10/11/2016, 3:48 PM

So, it's still broke and no solution yet.  Just sent this followup to my unique list of NewBlue FX errors to both NBFX and Magix.  Will report back if I get a solution:

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I owned Vegas Pro 12 and NewBlue FX Titler Pro 4 Ultimate, NewBlue FX Stabilizer and NewBlue FX Colorfast (both 1 and 2).  All these products worked perfect together!

I upgraded to Vegas Pro 14 Suite and reinstalled my existing NewBlue FX products.  Titler Pro only showed as 3 and not 4.  The Titler program did not function as designed and I did not have access to all the libraries and effects.  I also could not scrub the timeline or view titles in the preview window as I could before.

I am currently getting 2 random error messages and a frequent crash associated with a “vcrruntime.dll” file when I try to open projects created in Vegas Pro 14 (see attached file).

I have uninstalled TitlerPro 4 and reinstalled the NewBlue FX suite plug in provided with VP14 and I still get crappy results with the Magix supplied NBFX plug in.  I also lost all the function and advantages of Titler Pro 4 and that is unacceptable.

I installed my NewBlue FX Colorfast 2.  It works fine… oddly, it also installed Colorfast 1 and I didn’t ask for that.

I installed NewBlue FX Stabilizer (standalone version).  It appeared to install correctly yet it doesn’t show in VP14 anywhere.  In VP12 it used to show as “Stabilizer” which is not the same as Vegas “Stabilize.”  So, NBFX Stabilizer is not installed or available.

 

Note that I have uninstalled VP12 and have experimented with installing, de-installing and reinstalling all the NB FX programs and VP14 (this included cleaning the registry).  I also am running Win 10 Pro and have all the latest drivers installed.  My video card is an ATI Radeon HD6970 w/2GB GDDR5. I am running on an Intel i7 2600K LGA1155 and 16GB RAM.

 

NewBlue FX are awesome plugins when these work.  They were stable under Vegas Pro 12 and 13.  I need stability and function back with Vegas Pro 14. 

bravof wrote on 10/14/2016, 5:14 AM

Hi,

I installed Vegas Pro 14 with the included NewBlueFX Titler Pro Express. I had about 30 lower thids. 

I was then told an upgrade existed: I upgraded (the file is called 160926) and then all broke:

1. I no longer that about 30 lower thirds, but only 10 and only 1 that does not require a logo

2. I get an error in Vegas when launching NewBlueFX Titler Pro Express: "An error occured during thecurrent operation" Sony / Vegas not found

3. The NewBlueFX Titler Pro Express is no longer readable on a 5K monitor: the font is too small (this was NOT a problem with the previous version). 

So what should I do? 

thanks

 

bravof wrote on 10/14/2016, 5:40 AM

Still getting this error periodically such as on saving and on build dynamic ram preview with 160926:

C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\Temp\scr0.cs(3) : The type or namespace name 'Sony' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\Temp\scr0.cs(8) : The type or namespace name 'Vegas' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)


I have deinstalled the update and installed again the version from Magix (160824)

  1. No popup
  2. greater libaries
  3. Language is set to systemlanguage (in my case: german)

I've got 10 lower 3rds,  15 Titles and 11 motion bugs = 36. The video says "60+ main title and lower third templates"

with version 160824 all your missing titles and templades are back

Do you have a link to V160824? I have all the same problems as you: loss of templates and error popup. Plus a retina display problem. 

Quitter wrote on 10/14/2016, 6:54 AM

V160824 has unfortunately an other problem, you can't close the FX window


The V160824 should be stored at Documents/Magix Downloads on your PC

Last changed by Quitter on 10/14/2016, 7:00 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Camcorder: Sony CX 520 VE
Hardware:   Acer NG-A717-72G-71YD, Win 11 , i7-8750 H, 16GB, GTX 1060 6GB, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD
NLE:  Sony Vegas Pro 13.0 Build 453
            Vegas Pro 14.0 Build 270
            Vegas Pro 21.0 Build 300

 

bravof wrote on 10/14/2016, 8:50 AM

V160824 has unfortunately an other problem, you can't close the FX window


The V160824 should be stored at Documents/Magix Downloads on your PC

Spot on! I found it there, installed it. Fixed 2 of my problems: the display is now big again and all my lower thirds are there. BUT it's no good, as you can't close the plugin after creating your lower thirds: it spins endlessly. 

So... is there a solution?

Quitter wrote on 10/14/2016, 9:13 AM

I'm waiting for a solution from NewBlue.
Last contact was October 07

Camcorder: Sony CX 520 VE
Hardware:   Acer NG-A717-72G-71YD, Win 11 , i7-8750 H, 16GB, GTX 1060 6GB, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD
NLE:  Sony Vegas Pro 13.0 Build 453
            Vegas Pro 14.0 Build 270
            Vegas Pro 21.0 Build 300

 

bravof wrote on 10/14/2016, 10:16 AM

I'm waiting for a solution from NewBlue.
Last contact was October 07

Thanks. I opened a ticket today that was not yet acknowledged.

Industrystandard wrote on 10/15/2016, 10:06 AM

I was very eager to upgrade regardless of the lack of loyalty to older and experienced  users but this is too much. MAGIX I will see you in a few iterations of vegas......maybe. 

bravof wrote on 10/18/2016, 10:39 AM

I contacted both New blue and Magix (after all I paid Magix). 

Magix replied:

I recommend reinstalling the New Blue TItler Pro Express, as there was an issue where people were seeing more folders in the library but thy were empty.  We received a reply back from New BLue recently on this with the following information. 

By default, users should be seeing three collections in the library: Lower 3rds (41 templates), Main Titles (32), and Motion Bugs (16).

And NewBlue replied:

Reboot your computer

Uninstall Vegas Pro Complete (uninstaller in C:\Program Files\NewBlueFX\uninstallers)

Install this version of Vegas Pro Complete: www.newbluefx.com/downloads/Magix/NewBlueVegasProComplete-160915.exe

So none of these replied actually addressed my problem: it simply does NOT work. 

Has anybody got Newblue titler pro express to work on VP14?

Quitter wrote on 10/18/2016, 10:48 AM

No, not as it should

  • Original 160824 hangs at closing the plugin, but shows the complete libraries
  • Update  160915 generates an error message when saving, shows only a few content of the libraries
  • Update  160926 generates an error message when saving, shows only a few content of the libraries

Camcorder: Sony CX 520 VE
Hardware:   Acer NG-A717-72G-71YD, Win 11 , i7-8750 H, 16GB, GTX 1060 6GB, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD
NLE:  Sony Vegas Pro 13.0 Build 453
            Vegas Pro 14.0 Build 270
            Vegas Pro 21.0 Build 300

 

GaryX wrote on 10/18/2016, 1:17 PM

i also had these problems, titler pro 3 was uninstalled, only titler express and i couldn't work with that. i have LOTS of newblue products, so i contacted the support too.

they also told me to install 160915 and it did nothing, same problems.for me 160928 did the trick, i can work with my titler pro 4 elite now, i guess they will release a working version soon!

bravof wrote on 10/18/2016, 1:57 PM

No, not as it should

  • Original 160824 hangs at closing the plugin, but shows the complete libraries
  • Update  160915 generates an error message when saving, shows only a few content of the libraries
  • Update  160926 generates an error message when saving, shows only a few content of the libraries

This is a PERFECT summary. Magix and Newblue seem to be in denial. Thanks!

bravof wrote on 10/18/2016, 1:59 PM

 

they also told me to install 160915 and it did nothing, same problems.for me 160928 did the trick, i can work with my titler pro 4 elite now, i guess they will release a working version soon!

Hi,

Are you sure it's version 160928 and not 160926? And you mention titler pro 4 elite but the version bundled is "pro express" so do you have a different version?

GaryX wrote on 10/18/2016, 2:03 PM

well, after titler pro 3 was destroyed i thought i would be able to use the new 4 product, but it did not fix my problem. you are right, i mixed something, because i got the titler pro 4 installer with that version, sry.