Picture in picture not working properly in Vegas Pro 15.0

Cordilia wrote on 2/3/2022, 9:57 PM

I've been using Vegas Pro 15 since December 2018. I've been using the picture in picture function for at least the past two years. I recently built a new computer, downloaded, then installed Vegas. I've gotten most of the way through editing a video and tried using the picture in picture mode and the area around the video to be overlayed is completely black instead of showing the video underneath it. (See attached sample screenshot). I rendered the below sample just to be sure it wasn't just like that in the preview, but it's also black after being rendered.

 

I'm not sure if it's a setting I tweaked so long ago on the old computer that I've forgotten, or if this version of Vegas just isn't compatible with my new computer. Any help would be much appreciated.

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vkmast wrote on 2/4/2022, 2:34 AM

Resetting the software to default setting is often worth a try. Follow the instructions closely.

walter-i. wrote on 2/4/2022, 4:04 AM

Just an FYI:
If you use picture in picture a lot, try the trial version of Vegas Pro 19, there have been some improvements in this area.

Jack S wrote on 2/4/2022, 4:15 AM

@Cordilia You appear to have Pan/Crop active on the event on track 1. Have you a reason for doing this?

My system
Genshin Infinity Gaming PC
Motherboard Gigabyte H610M H: m-ATX w/, USB 3.2, 1 x M.2
Power Supply Corsair RM750X
Intel Core i7-13700K - 16-Core [8P @ 3.4GHz-5.4GHz / 8E @ 2.50GHz-4.20GHz]
30MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible
Case Fan 4 x CyberPowerPC Hyperloop 120mm ARGB & PWM Fan Kit
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Memory 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5/5200MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB
MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12, VR Ready, HDMI, DP
System drive 1TB WD Black SN770 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 5150MB/s Read & 4900MB/s Write
Storage 2 x 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM
Windows 11 Home (x64)
Monitors
Generic Monitor (PHL 222V8) connected to GeForce RTX 4060 Ti
Generic Monitor (SAMSUNG) connected to iGPU

Camcorder
SONY Handycam HDR-XR550VE

Grazie wrote on 2/4/2022, 5:00 AM

I’d have assumed you’re using Pan/Crop to Reduce the Track1 Event. If this is the case, where have you placed the FX in the FX Chain? Before Pan/Crop or After?

Reyfox wrote on 2/4/2022, 7:49 AM

I don't see the resizing box in the image around the video with PiP.

I've used Pan/Crop to make the video smaller (with black borders around it), did a PiP and place it above the track and it worked. I moved the PiP under that Pan/Crop and was still able to see the PiP in the black border area. The same with Track Motion

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Former user wrote on 2/4/2022, 1:29 PM

@Cordilia I've tried every combination of Pan/Crop - PinP i can, but can't make the underlying track go black like that, zoomed in on that pic & everything looks ok, not enough info tho, i suspect it's more to do with the lower track? With the PinP added & Pan/Crop, can you see the track below if you slide the top event out of the way along the timeline?

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/4/2022, 2:14 PM

@Cordilia Looks exactly like a Navi bug that got fixed with Vegas 18 build 373 and later.

Cordilia wrote on 2/5/2022, 9:50 AM

@Cordilia You appear to have Pan/Crop active on the event on track 1. Have you a reason for doing this?

I’d have assumed you’re using Pan/Crop to Reduce the Track1 Event. If this is the case, where have you placed the FX in the FX Chain? Before Pan/Crop or After?

Yes Pan/Crop is being used to reduce the Track 1 Event. The Pan/Crop is placed before the PiP because that's where Vegas puts it as default, I've never thought to swap it around. I just tried swapping and nothing has changed. Also, tried not doing Pan/Crop just to see and still get the black background.

Cordilia wrote on 2/5/2022, 9:52 AM

@Cordilia I've tried every combination of Pan/Crop - PinP i can, but can't make the underlying track go black like that, zoomed in on that pic & everything looks ok, not enough info tho, i suspect it's more to do with the lower track? With the PinP added & Pan/Crop, can you see the track below if you slide the top event out of the way along the timeline?

Yes, If I slide the top track out of the way along the timeline, the bottom track is visible

Cordilia wrote on 2/5/2022, 10:00 AM

@Cordilia Looks exactly like a Navi bug that got fixed with Vegas 18 build 373 and later.

Turning off the GPU acceleration of video processing made everything look okay again. However, because I'm not too technically minded I'm not sure how this may effect things while working/rendering with Vegas

Former user wrote on 2/5/2022, 1:26 PM

@Cordilia Hi, interesting that if you turn GPU off it makes it better, you said you recently built a new computer, so would you go to your icon at the top, click it - My Profile, & fill in your Signature with your Vegas version, Windows version & system specs, CPU, GPU, RAM etc. this will then show at the bottom of the comments 👍