You could install both on the same system. Log in to your Magix account and there should be a link to download 12 with the serial #.

For 18, you really do want to get into the latest patch (373). If it isn't installing through Vegas, just download it directly. There is a link here. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-18-update-2-build-373--124912/

Before installing make sure Vegas is closed.

After installing, check the graphics driver update under the help menu and get on the latest video card drivers.

If after these updates you still have crashes, post exactly what the issue is when it crashes (what time of file, what Fx added, etc.)

I am on version 334, I will do the update through the link you sent me, let it download overnight (I have rather slow internet).

Also, the crashes happen nearly randomly, but most often when I am pressing spacebar to watch the preview, even in low quality, but not always, sometimes the exact type of crash happens just from reeling through my footage, especially on any clips that are set in reverse. Also, my Sony Vegas 12.0 is no longer accessible except on my old PC as is, since I lost all access to it when I lost access to my old student email account, but I could always repurchase I suppose if the rest of these steps do not work out.

Will post tomorrow either way on the state of the issue, thank you very much for responding. :)

Hi Rika, I think you can access Vegas 12 from your Magix account so you can redownload if needed. If you can't log in maybe Magix can help. If you have the serial # somewhere you should be fine.

For crashes with 18 I see the same thing when the computer can't keep up with the clips. Maybe for reversed footage try to right click and "create proxy file" to ensure smoother playback.

what media or video file type you are working with?

Thank you, and have a nice day.

Windows 10
Ryzen 9 3900x (12 core, 3.8GHz)
Temporarily using a GTX 970 until the 3070/3080s are back in stock (worked fine before)
16 GB of RAM, as one stick was a lemon upon purchase (had 2 sticks of 16 GB high speed RAM)

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RikaRoleplay/saved/#view=fnDHzy
^For other PC components.

A warning about 3000 series cards. According to a tech reviewer and user reports here they don't work with VegasPro18 and other versions, until the software is updated to work with the new cards. Magix haven't said when or if that will happen, or even that know there is a problem with the cards. Now that affordable 3060ti cards have been released there will be many more disappointed Vegas customers, so lets hope they're about to surprise us with an update that fixes this

@Rika @set

I have a machine with Vegas Pro 9-13 installed. This morning, I started Vegas Pro 12-770 and got the following result:

All other Vegas Pro versions still work.

I went to my Magix account and did not find Vegas Pro 12 registered, though I have a valid serial number and the program has been installed and running (able to run) on this hardware platform for many years. After re-installing with a valid serial number, I go the same result. I suspect a change to Windows 10 and/or the Magix license validation process might be a possible cause of this phenomenon.

Sysinfo:

System Information report written at: 12/03/20 08:16:42
System Name: EP45-UD3R
[System Summary]

Item    Value    
OS Name    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro    
Version    10.0.19041 Build 19041    
Other OS Description     Not Available    
OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation    
System Name    EP45-UD3R    
System Manufacturer    Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.    
System Model    EP45-UD3R    
System Type    x64-based PC    
System SKU        
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9450  @ 2.66GHz, 2667 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)    
BIOS Version/Date    Award Software International, Inc. F11, 8/31/2009    
SMBIOS Version    2.4    
Embedded Controller Version    255.255    
BIOS Mode    Legacy    
BaseBoard Manufacturer    Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.    
BaseBoard Product    EP45-UD3R    
BaseBoard Version    x.x    
Platform Role    Desktop    
Secure Boot State    Unsupported    
PCR7 Configuration    Binding Not Possible    
Windows Directory    C:\WINDOWS    
System Directory    C:\WINDOWS\system32    
Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume2    
Locale    United States    
Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "10.0.19041.488"    
User Name    EP45-UD3R\John    
Time Zone    Pacific Standard Time    
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    8.00 GB    
Total Physical Memory    8.00 GB    
Available Physical Memory    5.46 GB    
Total Virtual Memory    9.95 GB    
Available Virtual Memory    7.38 GB    
Page File Space    1.95 GB    
Page File    C:\pagefile.sys    
Kernel DMA Protection    Off    
Virtualization-based security    Not enabled    
Device Encryption Support    Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable    
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions    Yes    
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions    No    
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware    Yes    
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection    Yes    

I have periodic system images that would exclude Windows 10 updates. I realize that no one else on the planet cares about this.

@john_dennis
No problem here on my desktop with all my Vegas versions starting at 10.
Yesterday some new updates on my Windows 10 version 20H2, look

@john_dennis as with @j-v, no issue with Win 10 H laptop ( 2004 -19041) or older desktop Win 10 Pro (1903-18362). I'm sure you have considered the "installation count" (see end of item 9 here).

(Btw, I and some others IIRC never got VP 10 64bit working since a few years ago)

And of course we care 🙂.

@vkmast @j-v

Vegas Pro 12 has never been a problem on this machine for me, either, since I activated it and DVD Architect on 2012-10-12. Today, I did not find either registration in My Products on the Magix site. When I tried to Register A Product for Vegas 12, I was informed that the serial number was already used. Well, Yeah!

I suspect something fell through the cracks on the Magix server.

Edit:

I sent a message to Magix Support to add those products manually since I don't seem to be able to accomplish that task.

@john_dennis if you have the time or inclination to do so, you might try and discuss this with Online live chat (advice here section 6). Can't promise anything, but maybe worth asking.

@vkmast

I chat with Eric and got the license assigned to my current email address. It was registered to an old one. I still have the problem of Vegas 12 "Not Responding", but I should be doing something more useful, today.

I am a fairly new video editor, and my partner and I put our money together to get 18.0, but it continually freezes, and refuses to update (Downloads the update, then freezes when trying to install). I have restarted my PC, updated my drivers, as well as a small host of other troubleshooting inside of Sony Vegas Property/ Settings, and as well as my PC's settings and properties as well.

I was wondering if I could downgrade to 12.0 again, since I don't know how to transfer it from my old PC to my new one (I had a student license for 12.0), and for 18.0 I think I bought the one that takes a year to pay off.

Please let me know, as I got this entire setup for video editing, and image editing, and if I cannot use 18.0 for more than 5 minutes for my large projects which worked fine on my old PC on Vegas Pro 12.0 (That PC unfortunately has other issues, not related to Sony/ Magix).

I would rather not refund the product, or downgrade if there is a simple solution, this started happening a few months ago, a month or two after I got Sony Vegas 18.0. I think there was an update, and ever since it never seemed to work properly.

Thank you, and have a nice day.

Windows 10
Ryzen 9 3900x (12 core, 3.8GHz)
Temporarily using a GTX 970 until the 3070/3080s are back in stock (worked fine before)
16 GB of RAM, as one stick was a lemon upon purchase (had 2 sticks of 16 GB high speed RAM)

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RikaRoleplay/saved/#view=fnDHzy
^For other PC components.

Welcome to the world of Vegas. Vegas 12 worked perfectly. I upgraded to 15, then 17, then 18 and it has been three years of hell. I7 7700 and an AMD 3700...doesn't matter, crashes everywhere at all times. Just watching plain video in the time line. Read all about it here.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/multiple-crashing-and-bugs-with-vegas-18-build-373--125367/#ca782191

I'll try a new AMD 4800H and if it is the same I am going to have to do more than move onto Premiere. If a new laptop fixes it - I guess MAGIX cant be bothered making sure lower end specced machines work.

With all the hacking going on, maybe someone at Unit 8200 is having some fun with German software? Side channel attack the graphics card...load in screen recording malware....who knows. I have considered all options and nothing makes sense. The problems seem random over all sets of hardware.

maybe someone at Unit 8200 is having some fun with German software?

Nothing to do with German. The same team of SCS from the former Sony Creative software in the US is making Vegas Pro and Movie Studio software.

Hi Rika, I think you can access Vegas 12 from your Magix account so you can redownload if needed. If you can't log in maybe Magix can help. If you have the serial # somewhere you should be fine.

For crashes with 18 I see the same thing when the computer can't keep up with the clips. Maybe for reversed footage try to right click and "create proxy file" to ensure smoother playback.

It appears the download is continually freezing in Sony Vegas, and the link you sent me doesn't want to open, I get a website address that is...

about:blank#blocked

With a page that looks like this that leads me to that link.



EDIT: Also I double checked my video, and other computer drivers, and everything is up to date, even my game drivers from NVidia.

@Rika

Chrome may not download (you need to copy and paste the text to your browser). Try another browser.

And it's not "Sony Vegas" after v #13.

copy-paste the rdir.magix.... link manually to new tab of your browser.

what media or video file type you are working with?

I am working with .mkv Remuxed into .MP4 through OBS, (So I don't have corrupted .MP4 files after doing a video recording due to program crash or power outage.)

@Rika

Chrome may not download (you need to copy and paste the text to your browser). Try another browser.

And it's not "Sony Vegas" after v #13.

Yeah, Chrome didn't work, but Microsoft Edge worked, so thanks. :)

copy-paste the rdir.magix.... link manually to new tab of your browser.

Didn't work, but that was because I used Chrome. Thanks anyway. :)

 

DIT: Also I double checked my video, and other computer drivers, and everything is up to date, even my game drivers from NVidia.

You shouldn't use the game driver, but the studio driver for Vegas (suggestion of the developer)

what media or video file type you are working with?

I am working with .mkv Remuxed into .MP4 through OBS, (So I don't have corrupted .MP4 files after doing a video recording due to program crash or power outage.)

Recommended settings for OBS
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

 

DIT: Also I double checked my video, and other computer drivers, and everything is up to date, even my game drivers from NVidia.

You shouldn't use the game driver, but the studio driver for Vegas (suggestion of the developer)

what media or video file type you are working with?

I am working with .mkv Remuxed into .MP4 through OBS, (So I don't have corrupted .MP4 files after doing a video recording due to program crash or power outage.)

Recommended settings for OBS
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

No issue with the .mkv remux, since it becomes encoded into .MP4 files anyway. I have the same issue when editing with .jpg or .png files, so it is not a file format issue. Just had another crash, though I lasted 15 minutes this time editing, which is a long time. I was sifting through some of the video layers I am rotoscoping, and it froze yet again. :/ I can still move my cursor and such, but the video refuses to play in the preview window, while the scroll selector doesn't respond to my clicking, but yet the audio still plays on as if nothing is wrong, then it greys out, then the program freezes, and crashes with no error dialogue box or error message or such, which it used to on my old PC whenever it froze, on a heavy project I was trying to force it to render above its capabilities.

Sony Vegas, costing such a high premium should be more than capable of handling these simple edits I am doing, especially on this much newer software compared to what I was using. I just grew up and learned on Sony Vegas since a child, as well as Magix Music Maker (The old 100 or 300 dollar version for WIndows 97 or XP I think), and know that the tools and quality is there, but as of lately, I have had nothing but problems recently. The game drivers are not for Sony Vegas, they are for NVidia, for gaming, but I updated them regardless, as I try to keep all my drivers updated.

I have never heard of a Studio Driver, did you mean the settings of OBS Studio? As in the Video Export settings?

Studio drivers are for recent NVIDIA graphics cards and optimized for stability with applications like Magix Vegas Pro.