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fr0sty wrote on 9/8/2021, 6:12 PM

Thankfully there's a forum full of knowledgeable users here to guide people through the new stuff until they can get that sorted.

gary-rebholz wrote on 9/8/2021, 9:51 PM

and you didn't think coming out with an up to date help or manual at the same time would be useful? Incredible.

Indeed it would be incredible if we actually thought such a stupid thing.

Obviously we didn't want it to be this way, but we were faced with a tough choice: Either hold VP19 until we could replace the tech doc resource we lost at pretty much the most inopportune time or release without updated help. Faced with two bad options, we chose the one we thought was the better both for you guys and the health of VEGAS Pro. As much as we wish we could, we can't control all the variables, and sometimes unfortunate things happen. We're trying to deal with this as best we can.

Meanwhile, I can't say enough about the wonderful people here and on YouTube who are working overtime to help everyone understand the new features. Thank you all!

janndk wrote on 9/9/2021, 12:29 AM

I was wondering if anyone knows, I purchased Vegas 19 Post on 8/21 and now I find that two weeks later they are offering the same upgrade, same price but with Titler Studio from Boris? Did I miss something or just get hoodwinked by buying it 10 days too early. Kinda don't like it. Been a user since Vegas 6

Interesting. I would also like to know more about this. Seems to be bundled with Vegas Pro as well - both subscription and new purchases/upgrades. Don't know about earlier bought perpetual licenses, but I assume it's included in all active subscriptions?

vkmast wrote on 9/9/2021, 4:16 AM

Unfortunately, the time-limited special offers come and go. It's always been this way. Please check the Price Watch thread.

Bruggeling wrote on 9/9/2021, 12:14 PM

Just noticed that the stabilisation fx doesn't function when rendering. It is ok on preview ! (working on a film 24 fps).

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Main cameras Panasonic S5, still using some FZ1000

Windows 11
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor 4.20 GHz
GPU NVidia Geforce RTX 2070 super
RAM 32,0 GB

Main disk M2 2 Terabyte, other disks SSD on SATA, some on USB.

Seb-o wrote on 9/9/2021, 12:33 PM

Just noticed that the stabilisation fx doesn't function when rendering. It is ok on preview ! (working on a film 24 fps).

That would be something that I, myself, would always pre-render, if for no other reason than to insure the results were what I'm seeking. That's not to suggest that this feature is working properly.

Seb-o wrote on 9/9/2021, 1:25 PM

and you didn't think coming out with an up to date help or manual at the same time would be useful? Incredible.

..... Faced with two bad options, we chose the one we thought was the better both for you guys and the health of VEGAS Pro........

Meanwhile, I can't say enough about the wonderful people here and on YouTube who are working overtime to help everyone understand the new features. Thank you all!

Gary, thank you for your gentlemanly response, and you're a thousand percent correct on those two points. It is pretty obvious that the beta team (in some form or fashion) included Youtube boosters who really "hit the ground running" on DAY ONE with the feature explanations; they were well prepared and have been doing fantastic work. This move was remarkably smooth because of some quick thinking on your/somebody's part to engage these young swifties. Their game has also stepped up a couple of notches, I've noticed. Do I miss a manual, yes, but given the choice, I'm with you G man: Let's ROLL.

Barton-Santello wrote on 9/9/2021, 3:23 PM

I am wondering what the purpose or thinking was behind VEGAS IMAGE? There are many mature and sophisticated image editing programs out there. Why put engineering/programming effort for that 'utility' type program, when it would have been easier just to integrate/link existing Magic software (Xara DesignerPro for example) much like Sound Forge is integrated into Vegas Pro? I watched a YouTube video for Vegas Image and it seems like Image is a LUT building tool. Can someone educate me on this? Thanks. Bart

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/9/2021, 7:37 PM

Barton-Santello, Vegas Image is not a LUT building tool it is an Image editor just like photoshop, although PS has a bit more features etc. And your analysis of how engineering effort should have been best focused somewhere else, nah, that's not how it works!

Vegas Image has a trial version which you can easily download and try out for yourself to see what else it offers.

 

RogerS wrote on 9/9/2021, 8:40 PM

Image was created by FXHome and existed before it was repurposed into VEGAS Image. It is an image editor that can do raw processing of stills and also prep photos for use in video. It's more of a Photoshop lite than a utility program.

fr0sty wrote on 9/9/2021, 8:43 PM

It's a bit of a hybrid of photoshop and lightroom, it does stuff both do, so it has features both don't, without having all the features of either.

gabgilson wrote on 9/10/2021, 2:24 AM

Am still loving v19 - very stable for me from editing to rendering - I've turned off live-save for the first time in years and I'm already using the stock footage option. Just a couple of UI glitches to report:

The new positioning of the crop and fx selectors at the bottom of a clip makes them really hard to select when you've added a velocity envelope - the line of the envelope blocks the tool selectors.

And I like the new design and colour scheme, but have a hard time seeing where one clip ends and the next starts when they're next to each other on the timeline - need thicker lines around the clips maybe, or a darker colour border.

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PC System:

Windows 11 64 bit. Vegas 22 pro.
Ryzen 9 5900x
AMD 6700xt
1tb m2 ssd
64gb DDR4 RAM

(new Aug 2024) Laptop system
Windows 11. Vegas 22
Intel i9-13980
Nvidia 4070 GPU
32gb RAM

Bruggeling wrote on 9/10/2021, 2:34 AM

Just noticed that the stabilisation fx doesn't function when rendering. It is ok on preview ! (working on a film 24 fps).

The same problem exists in Vegas 18 ! I give a link to a thread on Facebook with images This is the link

 

Main cameras Panasonic S5, still using some FZ1000

Windows 11
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor 4.20 GHz
GPU NVidia Geforce RTX 2070 super
RAM 32,0 GB

Main disk M2 2 Terabyte, other disks SSD on SATA, some on USB.

Dexcon wrote on 9/10/2021, 2:53 AM

@gabgilson

The new positioning of the crop and fx selectors at the bottom of a clip makes them really hard to select when you've added a velocity envelope

If you go to View and check 'Event Headers' (or use Ctrl+Shift+M), the pan/crop, fx and any other icons selected to show will be placed on the top of the event as occurred in VP18 and earlier.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2024.5, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

gabgilson wrote on 9/10/2021, 2:59 AM

@gabgilson

The new positioning of the crop and fx selectors at the bottom of a clip makes them really hard to select when you've added a velocity envelope

If you go to View and check 'Event Headers' (or use Ctrl+Shift+M), the pan/crop, fx and any other icons selected to show will be placed on the top of the event as occurred in VP18 and earlier.

Thanks @Dexcon , that fixes both problems :-)

Jessariah67 wrote on 9/11/2021, 7:16 AM

SeMW Preview Levels drop down in the Video Preview tab crashes my VP19 instantly. I know it's actually not necessary since VP18, but wanted to put this out there to see if it's my system or a general bug.

Marco. wrote on 9/11/2021, 7:25 AM

Be sure you have latest build of SeMW Extensions installed. It was updated some weeks ago especially for VP19.

Sotirios-Gliatis wrote on 9/12/2021, 4:29 PM

Does anyone else face the problem that you can`t sign in to your Vegas Hub?
Trying to manually do it in the meny doesn`t do anything and when i try text to speak a note appears that says "Unexpected network communication error.Please ensure you are on-line"...
Tried reinstalling,flushing dns,trying to connect through VPN,compatibillity mode etc but nothing.
Subscription based btw and i can`t use the features i am paying for with this bug.
Also when the program starts i get 2 tabs with Vegas Hub Login and for a few seconds the logout option that disappears.
Thanks in advance all :)

Shimager wrote on 9/20/2021, 4:08 PM

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/20/2021, 9:00 PM

Vegas will have VST3 support implemented very soon. Yeah its long over due, but it will be here!

OK, @Steve_Rhoden https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/users/profile/Steve_Rhoden/ , this is great to read! From where did you actually get the info that vst3 will be coming very soon? I can't wait. If it is there, I will upgrade my Vegas Pro 18. Until that time I will probably refrain and might wait longer...

RandyCA wrote on 9/20/2021, 5:47 PM

I wish VP 19's icons were more legible. I have a 4k monitor and they are so tiny I have to get my nose on the screen to see them. The icon in Crop/Pan that restricts the movement to vertical, horizonal or free movement is especially hard to discern. It was easy to see in VP18 with the same monitor, even with my feet up on the desk. I know if I hover some text appears which will tell me what it is set at, but who the heck want to hover?

And while I am here, It would be nice to have a zoom slider under the preview panel. And it would be really nice if there was an icon (big enough to see) where you could toggle between having the color measurements using the whole image or just the zoomed in portion. That would allow you to quickly zoom in on, say, the skin and see if it fall on on the skin tone line, without having to go through the Pan/Crop work around.

andyrpsmith wrote on 9/21/2021, 12:25 PM

I wish VP 19's icons were more legible. I have a 4k monitor and they are so tiny I have to get my nose on the screen to see them. The icon in Crop/Pan that restricts the movement to vertical, horizonal or free movement is especially hard to discern. It was easy to see in VP18 with the same monitor, even with my feet up on the desk. I know if I hover some text appears which will tell me what it is set at, but who the heck want to hover?

And while I am here, It would be nice to have a zoom slider under the preview panel. And it would be really nice if there was an icon (big enough to see) where you could toggle between having the color measurements using the whole image or just the zoomed in portion. That would allow you to quickly zoom in on, say, the skin and see if it fall on on the skin tone line, without having to go through the Pan/Crop work around.

There is a whole thread on the V19 icons and many requests to change back to V18 which as you say are much clearer and for me the best so far.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 11/24/2021, 12:24 AM

Although Vegas does not support VST3 as yet, i however found a work-around for that for a while now and have several of my VST3 Audio plugins working quite smoothly and stable inside Vegas Pro. For example, the latest versions of Melodyne and Auto-tune runs flawlessly within Vegas Pro or any vst3 plugs i throw at it.

Vegas will have VST3 support implemented very soon. Yeah its long over due, but it will be here!

Care to share your workarounds? I can't get my VP18 to see Izotope Nectar, whereas it does see other Izotope VSTs (yes, the DLL and VST files are all in the VST folder)

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

Den24601 wrote on 11/24/2021, 7:12 AM 
@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns

 The advice I got from NewBlue (which did fix my similar problem) was:

"Close Vegas, Delete plugin_manager_cache.bin and svfx_plugin_cache.bin from
C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Local\VEGAS Pro\{version#}, then retest.

Keep in mind that the "App Data" folder is probably a "Hidden" folder so you will need to have Windows
"Show Hidden Folders". "

 

ccscotty wrote on 11/24/2021, 1:39 PM

I picked up VP19 Edit recently.

Below I'll be focusing on issues and such, but of course I like Vegas Pro. I wouldn't be using it over other options if I didn't.

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EDIT: For some reason in Preferences, FILE IO Options "Enable Legacy HEVC Encoding" was selected. I turned that off. I think that was the cause of slow down and the laggy feeling when editing. I should have mentioned besides GoPro 9 HEVC I use a lot of footage from the Atomos Ninja V in h.265 HEVC due to how efficient on space it is (mostly 8-bit 4:2:0).

EDIT 2: Still feels pretty laggy, at least compared to what I remember with VP18. Canon EOS M6 Mark II 4k footage seems not to play super great. The HEVC change did seem to help a bit, but still not amazing.

Previous comments when legacy HEVC decoding was on:

VP19 is reminding me that I need to build a new computer, lol. Currently a Windows 10 PC with a i7-6700, 32GB of RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB with multiple SSDs. My main editing SSD is a Highpoint PCI-E card with 4xNVMe 1TB drives in RAID 10. I currently have the preview files rendering on a 2TB SATA SSD. The OS is on it's own 2TB NVMe.

The main thing I've noticed so far is GoPro Hero 9 HEVC footage seems to lag in the preview when it generally wouldn't in 18, but maybe it's my imagination. Is VP19 using a new h.265 HEVC decoder? I set the project to 1080p with Draft preview and the lag is still there.

The editor seems to hit the PC more than 18 because the fans spin up louder. Maybe it's the GPU fans, not sure yet. Kind of odd because overall it feels like there is more lag when editing than compared to 18. I need to compare settings and make sure I have everything off that I can.

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Previews in the media window still keep refreshing like previous versions of Vegas Pro even when they are images (I often have full resolution images in my projects from mirrorless cameras to show users close up details). So I have to click on a folder that doesn't have a preview like flac audio files to prevent that from pulling resources away while editing. I also limited the timeline previews to the head/tail. hmmm

Visually I like the darker look. Though, I wonder why the menu bar is a bright gray. Some pop-ups are the bright gray as well like preferences. It would be nice to have the entire interface in a dark mode. That said, I do like the more pastel colored tracks. Sometimes the dark ones in VP18 were difficult to see waveforms.

I did get my first lock up when I pasted multiple layers of video/audio tracks and then CTRL-Z too quickly. I do it quickly because sometimes I don't have the correct track selected and VP adds a new unnecessary video track to the timeline. Control Z undoes that so I can select the correct video track before pasting again.