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How did you use a preset from VP22? There is a lot more information that needs to be asked and it will get "lost" in this thread.
Hi. Excellent update (302) for quick editing and work, the transparency problem was fixed, but after rendering (I used a preset from 22 Vegas), when adding a file to a new project, it is impossible to work, the file does not play, the strobe plays at any place in the timeline at the first frame. When importing the same file into 22 Vegas, there is a freeze, the file is cached for a very long time, like 4K. Render settings: 1080p, 25 fps, 320 kbps audio, 14 Mbps bitrate, NV ENCODER, LOW LATENCY - HIGH QUALITY, RC-MODE - CBR - HIGH QUALITY
@Murat-Makoiev There seems to be a difference in gop-length rendering Nvenc between vp22 and vp23. With vp22 nvenc rendered 8bit Avc with your settings, I get gop=60. Compared to vp23, I get gop=250. I wouldn't ever use a vp23 nvenc render like that in a Vegas project till it gets fixed. If you have an Intel igpu, qsv yields gop=14 in either vp22 or 23, but is a little slower on my 12900h/3060 laptop. MainConcept is slowest unless you have very fast cpu/ram and yields gop=15 in both 22 & 23. The lower gops are the easiest editing.
Hi. Excellent update (302) for quick editing and work, the transparency problem was fixed, but after rendering (I used a preset from 22 Vegas), when adding a file to a new project, it is impossible to work, the file does not play, the strobe plays at any place in the timeline at the first frame. When importing the same file into 22 Vegas, there is a freeze, the file is cached for a very long time, like 4K. Render settings: 1080p, 25 fps, 320 kbps audio, 14 Mbps bitrate, NV ENCODER, LOW LATENCY - HIGH QUALITY, RC-MODE - CBR - HIGH QUALITY
@Murat-Makoiev There seems to be a difference in gop-length rendering Nvenc between vp22 and vp23. With vp22 nvenc rendered 8bit Avc with your settings, I get gop=60. Compared to vp23, I get gop=250. I wouldn't ever use a vp23 nvenc render like that in a Vegas project till it gets fixed. If you have an Intel igpu, qsv yields gop=14 in either vp22 or 23, but is a little slower on my 12900h/3060 laptop. MainConcept is slowest unless you have very fast cpu/ram and yields gop=15 in both 22 & 23. The lower gops are the easiest editing.
I'd really like the ability to specifically *set* the GOP length ... currently the only way to fine tune that kind of thing is the forgo using Vegas entirely as the encoder, and use Voukoder instead.
You can also use DebugMode Frame Server which lets you write your own ffmpeg script. That's essentially what VoukoderPro does for you with its gui. HOS accomplishes the same thing by actually installing both FrameServer, AVI Synth, & ffmpeg for menu-driven renders from Vegas.
VEGAS Pro 23 Feedback — English Translation
I heard the news about VEGAS Pro 23 and tried the trial version, but I was very disappointed.
None of the previous feedback or requests from users seem to have been addressed, and in fact, more issues have appeared.
Although I mainly use Premiere these days, I am writing this feedback once again because of the affection I once had for VEGAS.
Issues with Video FX
1. The ↓ (Down Arrow) key does not work
It worked perfectly fine up to version 22.
In version 23, it no longer functions, which significantly slows down workflow.
2. Video FX Search Problems
When saving a preset under Video FX, for example named “test,”
typing “test” into the Video FX search bar does not find it.
The preset only appears after manually selecting the effect first.
Previously, I could work around this by using the ↓ key,
but now that the arrow key is broken, it’s even more frustrating—
especially during heavy projects where VEGAS tends to crash or freeze in later stages.
I heard that this change was made around version 17–18 for “optimization” purposes,
but I truly don’t understand why such a core usability feature was removed.
If possible, please add an option in Preferences
to enable or disable the old search behavior—for users like me
who value usability over optimization.
3. ProType Titler
The UI is unnecessarily divided into multiple tabs.
The workflow becomes complicated and inefficient because of this design.
Considering that all you need is basic text formatting, color changes, outlines, and shadows,
I don’t understand why these simple functions are split across six different tabs.
The font selection scroll is also terrible—
you can’t use the mouse wheel and are forced to drag manually.
I asked at least for the font scrolling issue to be fixed,
but it still remains unchanged.
Although I was told there are no plans to update or improve ProType Titler,
its current state is honestly unacceptable.
Final Comment
The MAGIX team still feels unprofessional and unresponsive,
and I have no intention of purchasing VEGAS Pro 23.
It used to be a program I genuinely loved,
but now it feels like a completely broken product.
It doesn’t make sense to continue selling it for money
without fixing even the most basic issues,
while pushing users toward annual subscription upgrades.
If you're not going to fix the issue, please don't reply.
I'm tired of getting notifications when nothing gets resolved.
I have already moved to Premiere.
Setting and Rendering Questions about Vegas 23：
1. As an user since V7, i just can't get used to the new design of keyboad：space as play and back to the editing point wihle enter as play and pause. i tried to chage the setting in [Options] > [Costmize Keyboard], yet, didn't work out, does anyone know how to fix it？
2. How can i render mov. with alpha channel as there is no more quicktime option in rendering menu.
These quiestions may be simple, but will do me great favor if i know how to overcome them, thanks in advance. 😁
@Jonathan-Chen ... The spacebar behaviour is still a selectable option in Options/Preferences/General (tab) "Make spacebar and F12 Play/Stop instead of Play/Pause" - it's just that the default behaviour has changed.
Also, the spacebar's behaviour is also selectable under the preview screen. Click on the 3 dots and there's an icon to choose play/stop or play/pause.
If you select 'Edit Visible Button Set...", you can select which buttons appear under the preview window - and the spacebar button is one of those choices as well so it's easy to swap between play/stop and play/pause with the click of that icon.
The Quicktime Plugin can still be selected - it's an option under Options/Preferences/Deprecated Features. QT is considered deprecated because Apple ceased Windows support for QT in April 2016, nearly 10 years ago.
1.The down arrow for the Video FX is working just fine on my computer. I am trying it right now. I can't see how this will function, even if it didn't work would slow down. But we all have our different workflows. I personally use the Plugin Manager since I have several plugin packages that has lots of plugins. Then mark my favorites.
2. Did you look in the Filter Packages? I created a B&W plugin chain, and that is where it appears.
3. ProType Titler and titling in general has been a subject that has been very much talked about and answered by the developers. It is legacy and will not see anything done to it. IIRC, it was a "stop gap" until something was developed years ago, but sadly, that didn't happen. A title editor is high on the "to do" list. I'm not good with the search engine in this forum, otherwise I would point you to the discussions. But you would already know this because you marked a user's reply as the "The Solution". Would I like a new one? Of course! Everyone in this user forum would. When will it happen? I can't answer.
No one is being pushed to subscription. No one. Not like the program you use mostly now where you have no choice. Don't pay, can't edit.
thank you so much @Dexcon, you saved me. 😇
The spacebar behaviour is solved, but the quicktime problem still needs some of your advice.
I already turned on the quicktime enable funtion, yet when rendering, unlike V22 and the previous, V23 only shows apple ProRes format, which is unable to customize resolution like quicktime. Is there any other way to render customized files as quicktime do？ I need to do animaiton sometimes in my editing work. Thanks a lot.
Yeah well you can set that Spacebar to the default behavior we were all used to (great idea changing it to the opposite of that for no reason) all you want but when you restart the program expect to retick or untick any boxes in your settings because they likely won't be remembered.
In addition to that BS there is a serious flaw with the audio of an existing project. For no reason at all some audio clips are not grabbing the sound from the right places. I don't know how to explain it best but I'll try. Vegas Pro 19, same project, I can see parts of the wav audio in the clip, and obviously by sound I know it's right. Open that project up in 23 and not only can I hear that it's off, but I can see that the audio within the clip is somehow "slid" over within the clip - and the clips themselves did not move, they are where they are supposed to be. What the Fk is that about? I assure you it's wrong, and it's the program, so unless there is some bizarro setting I don't know about.
I'll check in the v22 trial - the version I wanted to buy, but I caved because you can't buy v22. But you can download and run every trial version since 1999. Can I just emphasize that you can run every single trial version you want and not be able to buy it.
Edit: I'm having the issue with v22 as well. I'll finish that project with v19 and have to wait 5 minutes to reopen it every time it inevitably crashes. The best thing about v22/23 is how fast a project opens, it's why I pulled the trigger.
I'll hope this is just an older project incompatibility scenario. Far from ideal, I go into recent projects to grab selections of edits that are used in different versions of what I make, I'll have to bounce between the versions I have installed. I can't trust opening an older project (any current project) in the new program now.
@Jonathan-Chen ...
... V23 only shows apple ProRes format, which is unable to customize resolution like quicktime. Is there any other way to render customized files as quicktime do ...
This issue has been raised on the forum a few times such as in:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/how-to-render-prores-24p--150233/
... and in that thread a Vegas staff member advised:
Yeah well you can set that Spacebar to the default behavior we were all used to (great idea changing it to the opposite of that for no reason) all you want but when you restart the program expect to retick or untick any boxes in your settings because they likely won't be remembered.
In addition to that BS there is a serious flaw with the audio of an existing project. For no reason at all some audio clips are not grabbing the sound from the right places. I don't know how to explain it best but I'll try. Vegas Pro 19, same project, I can see parts of the wav audio in the clip, and obviously by sound I know it's right. Open that project up in 23 and not only can I hear that it's off, but I can see that the audio within the clip is somehow "slid" over within the clip - and the clips themselves did not move, they are where they are supposed to be. What the Fk is that about? I assure you it's wrong, and it's the program, so unless there is some bizarro setting I don't know about.
I'll check in the v22 trial - the version I wanted to buy, but I caved because you can't buy v22. But you can download and run every trial version since 1999. Can I just emphasize that you can run every single trial version you want and not be able to buy it.
Edit: I'm having the issue with v22 as well. I'll finish that project with v19 and have to wait 5 minutes to reopen it every time it inevitably crashes. The best thing about v22/23 is how fast a project opens, it's why I pulled the trigger.
I'll hope this is just an older project incompatibility scenario. Far from ideal, I go into recent projects to grab selections of edits that are used in different versions of what I make, I'll have to bounce between the versions I have installed. I can't trust opening an older project (any current project) in the new program now.
What is the audio codec of the clips that get off set? Because I see this issue sometimes with coded audio. Try rendering those clips in WAV en re-imports them on your timeline. This will fix most issues.
Dear developers, it's time for an update to this software, it's not reliable! A project of only 5 minutes h265/4k, 25p, I've been trying to render it for 4 days now and, besides the fact that this rendering takes about an hour, tried on two computers, where I applied Vegas stabilization, it has bad stuttering! So, I can't teach such material! I tried to copy the entire project and put it in Vegas 22 or Vegas 20, in V22 only 1% of the project is copied, and V20 crashes. I tried to convert a .m2ts file to .mp4, I couldn't do that with Vegas either, and I did it with a trivial program (Nero Recode), quickly and without problems!
Estimados desarrolladores, es hora de actualizar este software, ¡no es confiable! Llevo cuatro días intentando renderizar un proyecto de tan solo 5 minutos en h265/4k a 25 fps. Además de que el renderizado tarda aproximadamente una hora, lo he probado en dos ordenadores con la estabilización de Vegas activada, ¡y se produce un tartamudeo terrible! ¡Así que no puedo impartir clases con este material! He intentado copiar el proyecto completo y pegarlo en Vegas 22 o Vegas 20; en la versión 22 solo se copia el 1%, y la versión 20 se bloquea. También intentó convertir un archivo .m2ts a .mp4, pero tampoco pudo hacerlo con Vegas, mientras que con un programa muy sencillo (Nero Recode) lo siguió rápidamente y sin problemas.
I think they should release an update that at least fixes some of the bugs. Even if it's not all of them, at least the main ones. It gives the impression that they've abandoned the software, which saddens me. I'm Vegas' number one fan. i promote the software in reddit, youtube, but the updates not exist at all. I hope if maybe we as comunity can do something for help or something
I already turned on the quicktime enable funtion, yet when rendering, unlike V22 and the previous, V23 only shows apple ProRes format, which is unable to customize resolution like quicktime. Is there any other way to render customized files as quicktime do？ I need to do animaiton sometimes in my editing work. Thanks a lot.
In the Render box, in the upper right-hand corner there's two drop-down option lists. Did you turn on the option to "Show all formats"?
They still have the same problem even V23 keep on crashing I have tried to reinstall it removed all leftover Vegas installation patches and files and folder cleaned anything. Reinstalled pristine Vegas V23 tried to use smart mask took ages to mask simple 10s video them I got message Vegas 23 not responsive. That problem with Vegas has been drugging forever since I remember. Vegas is very unpredictable and unreliable . I am trying to stick with App but I am loosing patience especially that AI video creation tools just getting better and faster and there is no much support from Vegas.
It appears that the new filter package management doesn't apply saved packages properly in this version of VEGAS. If there is more than one instance of a single effect in the packages effect chain, every instance will copy the values from the last instance of that effect rather than their own, regardless of the effects in-between.
A simple example to demonstrate this is to create a filter package with 2 or more Black and White effects, all set to 1 except for the last one, set it to 0. Once the package is saved and applied elsewhere, all of the Black and White effects will be set to 0.
The package appears to be saved properly based on the new .xml files, but are then read improperly.
They still have the same problem even V23 keep on crashing I have tried to reinstall it removed all leftover Vegas installation patches and files and folder cleaned anything. Reinstalled pristine Vegas V23 tried to use smart mask took ages to mask simple 10s video them I got message Vegas 23 not responsive. That problem with Vegas has been drugging forever since I remember. Vegas is very unpredictable and unreliable . I am trying to stick with App but I am loosing patience especially that AI video creation tools just getting better and faster and there is no much support from Vegas.
Smart Mask 2.0 is far from stable indeed. For me that tool can't be used in production. I hope that the team can review that plugin so it can be used reliable.
Je viens d'acheter la mise à niveau de Vegas 23, mais quand je vais dans effet vidéo je ne vois pas Fx Home, Pro Dad, Boris Fx, iZotope, SmartSound et New Blue,pourtant dans mon courriel il me disent la procédure pour les add on, mais où sont ils ???
Greetings, I am currently disappointed by the neglect of this great program, Vegas 23. The numerous errors in this new release have been discussed here for so long, and it is taking forever for the corrections to be made.
How can I buy this new version if it has so many bugs and you don't fix them, if it takes so long to make updates, it takes up to 3 months to update, and you release this with so many problems, and users who love this program are still waiting to see if you will respond.
DaVinci Resolve is knocking on my door every day, and is that really what you want? Do you want us to give up on this? If so, you'd better shut down the program and we'll use others that do update and care about their users.
Really, what a disappointment.
Saludos, siento ahora mismo una pena por el abandono de este gran programa Vegas 23, hace tanto que se ha escrito aquí los múltiples errores que tiene este nuevo lanzamiento y tardan un mundo para hacer las correcciones.
Como puedo comprar esta nueva versión si tiene tantos errores y no lo corriges, si tardas tanto en hacer las actualizaciones, se pasan hasta 3 meses para actualizar y lanzan esto con tantos problemas y el usuario que ama este programa, sigue esperando a ver si ya responden.
¿A mí me está tocando la puerta cada día (DaVinci Resolve) y es lo que realmente desean? quieren que dejemos esto y ya? si es así mejor cierren el programa y usamos otros que si actualizan y estos otros si les dan importancia al usuario.
Realmente, que decepción.
@Serge-Tonietto-Giguere AFAIK those add-ons are not included in the current VP 23 offers.
(Pro left, Suite right in the screenshot below:)
Greetings, I am currently disappointed by the neglect of this great program, Vegas 23. The numerous errors in this new release have been discussed here for so long, and it is taking forever for the corrections to be made.
How can I buy this new version if it has so many bugs and you don't fix them, if it takes so long to make updates, it takes up to 3 months to update, and you release this with so many problems, and users who love this program are still waiting to see if you will respond.
DaVinci Resolve is knocking on my door every day, and is that really what you want? Do you want us to give up on this? If so, you'd better shut down the program and we'll use others that do update and care about their users.
Really, what a disappointment.
Saludos, siento ahora mismo una pena por el abandono de este gran programa Vegas 23, hace tanto que se ha escrito aquí los múltiples errores que tiene este nuevo lanzamiento y tardan un mundo para hacer las correcciones.
Como puedo comprar esta nueva versión si tiene tantos errores y no lo corriges, si tardas tanto en hacer las actualizaciones, se pasan hasta 3 meses para actualizar y lanzan esto con tantos problemas y el usuario que ama este programa, sigue esperando a ver si ya responden.
¿A mí me está tocando la puerta cada día (DaVinci Resolve) y es lo que realmente desean? quieren que dejemos esto y ya? si es así mejor cierren el programa y usamos otros que si actualizan y estos otros si les dan importancia al usuario.
Realmente, que decepción.
I understand. All another editor software are launching weekly updates, effects, ai video generation, something every weeks, But vegas not have updates for fix critical bugs in months... Davinci, Capcut and all another free software fix the bugs in less than 2 days and vegas nothing in 2 ~ 3 months for 200 dollars. Is really frustrating
Davinci, Capcut and all another free software fix the bugs in less than 2 days and vegas nothing in 2 ~ 3 months for 200 dollars. Is really frustrating
That seems like a bit of a wild generalization.
I own both Davinci Resolve Studio 20.3 and Vegas Pro 23, so let's compare apples with apples.
Studio is more expensive. Sure, there's a free version, but obviously it has plenty of limitations. And their update cycle is not less than two days, but rather a few weeks to months. For what, BM Raw? Perhaps another key difference is their development is supported by a multi-million dollar hardware juggernaut.
Bug free? Maybe spend some time browsing through the Black Magic forums.
Frustrating? Yeah, sure, there is nothing quite like working in Fusion for several hours, only to lose it all because the UI freezes and then quits.
Personally I have had far more crashes with DR than with Vegas. But at the end of the day they are just editing tools. And I'm not using them to land planes.😁
I can't speak to Capcut. Considering their ownership and EULA, that's a hard no for me.
@ChrisD I can only compare DR20 (free version) and VP23.
DR Studio is more expensive, for a lifetime free upgrades it's rather very cheap.
About limitations of the free version, I can only say that VP23 has more limitations/less features than this DR free version. I cannot compare AI features (because that's indeed a limitation of the free version) but the AI features of VP23 are not working or are just unworkable, at least on my PC.
DR Bug free, surely not, but till now I didn't found one or did it hamper my editing.
DR Crashes till now, not one. VP23 maybe 2 or 3 times.
Frustrating is just that DR20 is very complicated and it takes/took a long time to edit with the same ease as I edit with VP23.
Indeed, both are just editing tools and I like to use both.