VEGAS Pro 18 Coming In August!

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Reyfox wrote on 8/2/2020, 10:54 AM

I am looking forward to hearing what will be new in Vegas 18.

I am more a "lurker" in the forums, reading what people write, both pros and cons, along with "how to do". And when I comes to reading about crashes every few minutes, I wonder why. Because I do not suffer from crashes every few minutes. I've worked for several hours compositing, key framing, animating multiple tracks with some nested projects tossed in, I honestly, thinks work ok for me. When I first installed VP17, I did experience constant crashes. Constant and it didn't take long for it to happen. I was reminded to see if so4compound was enabled. It was. Disabled, no more crashes. But my understanding is that if you want to work with 10bit (I mostly do not) you do have to have it enabled. So for me, this is a problem. And I am not the only one.

I've been overall, extremely happy with VP17. Yes, there can be some improvements. But I can say, yeah, VP is a great editor for me. The elephant in the room seems to be Resolve. I've tried it. More than one time. But not my cup of tea.

adimatis wrote on 8/2/2020, 1:09 PM

@RogerS Yes, indeed, thanks - I should have done that, and maybe it could have been beneficial... But I tell you, I am tired of this. As much as I love Vegas and Resolve was not cup of tea neither - and it still feels very alien to me other than the basic editing routine, I came to be rational about it. :) Meaning, I will use what works with my system - what choice do I have anyway?

Now, come to try v18, I will see immediately, I guess, if it works or not. I plan on installing it on fresh Windows, so there is NOTHING to interfere with it other than the OS and drivers. And I'll see from there.

Reyfox wrote on 8/2/2020, 1:48 PM

I've noticed "brand loyalty" and "fanboism" to a fault on the internet. While I might not agree with people's choices, it's there money to spend as they want. I've always bought the tool that was right for me. Sometimes I have several different 'brands'.

I've been editing since 1990 when I started with a/b roll and Amiga/Toaster with a bunch of Panasonic AG line equipment and several other Amiga workstations. I've had quite a few different editors along the way, but finally decided to try Vegas a little over 3 years ago. I've been quite happy with the software. Not so happy with installing the Boris plugins and trashing "last years" Boris, but I solved that by buying Continuum 2020 perpetual at a great Black Friday sale. I've worked in the computer field doing networking, building custom workstations, computer installations and trouble shooting for companies. So my computer is well maintained.

Now, retired, I edit for myself, church and do corporate video for a company based in Italy. I have done weddings and event work as special requests, but I keep editing because it challenges the mind and keeps the gray matter busy. Tomorrow we will all know what VP18 will bring. I can't wait.

KaraUSA wrote on 8/2/2020, 3:33 PM

I hope that there will no longer be this limitation to customize your own resolution for video export. Since version 14 to 17 we cannot increase above 4096 for some codecs, I hope that this problem will be solved and that we can export with our customization of video resolution.

fr0sty wrote on 8/2/2020, 4:03 PM

There's only so much I can legally say about it until tomorrow, but I'll try to summarize it like this. VEGAS 18 is a great app that was developed by a great team who is very dedicated to addressing the many issues that have been brought up. Many areas got the attention you request, despite it is being developed by a small team and that team had to work through the restrictions imposed by the worst pandemic any of us have lived through. This certainly slowed them down a bit, but what I've seen produced despite that has me very satisfied. We've been begging them for years to stick to the basics, make sure VEGAS works better first, then throw in some new stuff... and from what I can tell, they've done that. The testing/quality control process also underwent a major overhaul that have enabled more people to report any bugs found far easier, and enabled the developers to get to those pre-release bugs easier, and keep better track of them as well. That should result in this being one of the most stable release builds yet (again, don't expect perfection, but improvement), and features being cranked out faster because the developers are wasting less time with an inefficient system.

Does this mean you won't ever get unexpected behavior out of this initial build? No. That isn't true for any software, especially release builds of software, but hopefully it resolves what ever issues you may have been having. There's also some really exciting stuff planned for the post-release updates. So, if you don't see what you're looking for in this release build, keep an eye on subsequent builds.

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lan-mLMC wrote on 8/2/2020, 4:42 PM

There's only so much I can legally say about it until tomorrow, but I'll try to summarize it like this. VEGAS 18 is a great app that was developed by a great team who is very dedicated to addressing the many issues that have been brought up. Many areas got the attention you request, despite it is being developed by a small team and that team had to work through the restrictions imposed by the worst pandemic any of us have lived through. This certainly slowed them down a bit, but what I've seen produced despite that has me very satisfied. We've been begging them for years to stick to the basics, make sure VEGAS works better first, then throw in some new stuff... and from what I can tell, they've done that. The testing/quality control process also underwent a major overhaul that have enabled more people to report any bugs found far easier, and enabled the developers to get to those pre-release bugs easier, and keep better track of them as well. That should result in this being one of the most stable release builds yet (again, don't expect perfection, but improvement), and features being cranked out faster because the developers are wasting less time with an inefficient system.

Does this mean you won't ever get unexpected behavior out of this initial build? No. That isn't true for any software, especially release builds of software, but hopefully it resolves what ever issues you may have been having. There's also some really exciting stuff planned for the post-release updates. So, if you don't see what you're looking for in this release build, keep an eye on subsequent builds.


@fr0sty Hello, what's the exact releasing hour and minute?

fr0sty wrote on 8/2/2020, 4:47 PM

I don't know.

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Marty74 wrote on 8/3/2020, 2:37 AM

There's only so much I can legally say about it until tomorrow, but I'll try to summarize it like this. VEGAS 18 is a great app that was developed by a great team who is very dedicated to addressing the many issues that have been brought up.

Thank you for your comment. It bring some smiles (and a much more impatience since i read it).
I think most of us were waiting a release where

- bug fixes and stability are a priority
- new features will be added later, or at least not a priority vs stability of the core software.

Anyway, waiting like everybody the V18 release. I'll be on board on the ship in the day with impatience as i had to skip V17, so I'll get the v18 as soon as it's available, but will continue to finish my current project with my V16 until i'm sure that V18 is "ok", to move one definitively.

Marco. wrote on 8/3/2020, 3:11 AM

"Hello, what's the exact releasing hour and minute?"

Now.

aboammar wrote on 8/3/2020, 5:38 PM

Magix doesn't make cameras, video switchers, and other hardware that it needs software to help sell. BlackMagic can afford to sell Resolve for next to nothing because its development is funded from the sale of their hardware.

Yet despite that, it still lacks compared to VEGAS, it can do many of the same things, and even a few things VEGAS can't (though the reverse is also true), but still no NLE has the usability or customization ability that VEGAS has, which is why we're all here.

That considered, and the fact that the other heavy hitter in the industry Adobe, requires a forced $600/year subscription model to use their software, I'd say that $200 to upgrade to 18 isn't a bad deal, nor is buying VEGAS 17 (with 2 licenses for 2 PCs) and getting VEGAS 18 free (with 2 more licenses for 2 more PCs) at $400 isn't a bad deal either. VEGAS always does that promotion before the new version launches, as well.

Magix doesn't make cameras, video switchers, and other hardware that it needs software to help sell. BlackMagic can afford to sell Resolve for next to nothing because its development is funded from the sale of their hardware

Well, maybe that is true but it is not a valid point from a consumer point of view! In short, customers don't care about that and all they care about is to get excellent products at competitive prices.

Yet despite that, it still lacks compared to VEGAS, it can do many of the same things, and even a few things VEGAS can't (though the reverse is also true), but still no NLE has the usability or customization ability that VEGAS has, which is why we're all here.

I totally disagree because DaVinci Resolve is a very capable and competitive NLE. Yes, it is not perfect and has its pros and cons just like any other NLE, but nonetheless it is indeed a very powerful package with amazing color grading features that are second to none! And for Zero dollars, NOTHING comes close, and for a "one time payment" of only $299 for the Studio version, it's a huge bargain and no one ever can complain, especially when you compare that to Vegas Pro which cost $599. I own Vegas Pro from its first version until version 17 and I also own DaVinci Resolve Studio 16, so I know what I am talking about!

That considered, and the fact that the other heavy hitter in the industry Adobe, requires a forced $600/year subscription model to use their software, I'd say that $200 to upgrade to 18 isn't a bad deal, nor is buying VEGAS 17 (with 2 licenses for 2 PCs) and getting VEGAS 18 free (with 2 more licenses for 2 more PCs) at $400 isn't a bad deal either. VEGAS always does that promotion before the new version launches, as well.

Adobe's subscription pricing is a joke and rip-off in my opinion, but for your information, Premiere Pro costs $239.88/year ... not $600/year! $599.88/year is for a very big suite which includes over 20 applications (like Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Lightroom, Acrobat Pro, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Dimension, Audition, etc.​​​​​​​) + 100GB of cloud storage, Adobe Portfolio, Adobe Fonts, and Adobe Spark! My friend, you need to be accurate when comparing other packages to Vegas Pro and make sure that you are comparing apple to apple. As for Vegas Pro upgrade prices, $199 is only for the editor, but the upgrade price for Vegas Pro is $249, and in my case it will cost me a whopping $349 to upgrade since I own VEGAS Pro 17 Suite! Those V18 upgrade prices are extremely high and not worth it in my opinion, considering that the new features and enhancements did not really convince me! And lets not forget that DaVinci Resolve costs ZERO including all upcoming versions, and DaVinci Resolve Studio costs $299 to buy which includes free upgrades to all upcoming versions!

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vkmast wrote on 8/3/2020, 6:19 PM

As it's August now and VEGAS Pro 18 has been released, this thread might as well be closed with those MASSIVE endorsements of other NLEs.