I do think VPX's development effort should be spent helping team VEGAS develop new features, I don't think there's a need for a pro-sumer level editor... beginner or pro should be all we need. Offer the ability to augment both with new features to target the in-betweens and beyond.

@fr0sty I'm on the fence about this. There are those that might be willing to spend a little more for an editor because they need a little more, but not willing to spend the entry price into Video Pro X @ $300, or Vegas Pro Edit at the same price. There is a $200 price gap between MS18/MEP2021 and VPX and VP. That's a huge gap where no software (to my knowledge) is represented in that price range.

 

That's what I meant by enabling users to augment the cheap option with more pro-like features as a paid upgrade.

I do think VPX's development effort should be spent helping team VEGAS develop new features, I don't think there's a need for a pro-sumer level editor... beginner or pro should be all we need. Offer the ability to augment both with new features to target the in-betweens and beyond.

Coming from an audio focus perspective of the Magix products, that isn't likely to happen. I feel Magix has acquired a portfolio of A/V apps and plugins which were great at one time but just didn't have the enthusiasm/support behind them to ensure a long-term success. They therefore get a larger total userbase by a collection of smaller userbases.

For example, on the audio creation side they own Acid Pro, Sound Forge, Samplitude, Sequia, and Music maker. All those apps aside from Music Maker were considered "Pro" level apps at one time and they all do similar tasks. The one that seems to get the most attention currently for feature additions is Sequia while everything else is the same ole story of tweaks to existing features and bundled plugin offerings. Most of those users that don't use Sequia currently aren't likely to jump ship to Sequia if Magix decided to discontinue development on Acid Pro, Samplitude, and Music Maker if Magix decided to focus all those development resources on Sequia instead. They stick to using those apps due to the comfort level of familiarity while tolerating the lack luster robustness and feature additions in newer version releases. If they're going to be forced to learn another application there's too many other more robust competitive offerings that draw a much bigger attraction than Sequia and that holds true for Vegas as well on the NLE side.

Additionally, if Magix abandons a particular userbase by placing a priority on another product userbase they own, do you really think those users that were using the apps that they abandoned are going to be enthusiastic to jump to another similar product supported by the same company? I know I wouldn't, just like I'm not enthusiastic to jump to Sequia or Samplitude after being a long time Acid Pro user. In the back of my mind I'ld be thinking, would I really take on the additional efforts of learning this other program from the same company and take the risk that same scenario of being abandoned wouldn't play out again? I'ld move to Cubase, Reaper, Albeton Live or FL Studio instead and be done with that decision mess.

If the shoe was on the other foot and they decided to abandon Vegas and focus all their efforts on VPX, would you be excited to jump to using VPX?

With that said, would I think it would be great if Magix combined all those features in these different audio apps and put out an uber app instead? Absolutely, but that aint happening. They aren't even synergizing Acid Pro and Vegas developments any longer which seems ridiculous since they share many common development elements and there isn't even a way to move projects from working in Acid to Vegas or vise-versa or be able to sync them together easily. Heck you can't even open a VP18 project in VP17 if you wanted to send your VP18 project to another studio which was using VP17. This all just demonstrates Magix is really not focused on synergizing development efforts between their own product portfolio. The only likely synergy development I expect between any of these apps is to see their new online storefront placed inside of each app which will likely assist in generating additional revenue for them but is a feature no one really asked for.

If the shoe was on the other foot and they decided to abandon Vegas and focus all their efforts on VPX, would you be excited to jump to using VPX?

If they incorporated the features I love about VEGAS into VPX, then... definitely moreso than jumping to Resolve or Premiere. This trying to cater to everyone thing isn't working. Some choices will have to be made at some point, you can't have a bunch of competing products under the same umbrella holding back development of them all.

Samplitude and Sequia are the two professional level audio tools. Over the last two versions Samplitude has become a very stable and powerful DAW with great MIDI tools. Samplitude is for smaller operations and Sequia is for very large houses. Given the state of the single person shop / advanced amateur markets for still and hybrid cameras I believe a consolidation has to be the survival strategy. For Hollywood it's still Avid for the main studios with Premier and Resolve seemingly doing well in medium/small studios and independents (from what I've seen on DVXusers and CreativeCow. I love the easy work flow in Vegas and how good it has become (I started with V13 from movie studio) but as the market contracts for amateurs and smaller shops/indy makers I think any firm would be well advised to put all of their money on one product and make sure the offering of versions fit the market niches best suited for their product.

the vegas pro page has still not been changed.  when is the VP19 really released? Thanks

@Former user the exact release date has not been announced yet. The current VP 18 offers are now valid until August 9, 2021. Thank you for your patience.

the vegas pro page has still not been changed.  when is the VP19 really released? Thanks

@Former user From the web site "scheduled to release in August 2021.".

Sorry but nobody is allowed to give you the release date.

the vegas pro page has still not been changed.  when is the VP19 really released? Thanks

@Former user From the web site "scheduled to release in August 2021.".

Sorry but nobody is allowed to give you the release date.

Why you can't give us the release date ? it's strange

Why you can't give us the release date ? it's strange

Strange - no, not at all. Many companies in many product markets do not release their forward product release dates other than in vague terms. To release such information is often considered to give an edge to the competition as well as raising customer 'concerns' if the actual publicised release date gets delayed. VEGAS have said that Vegas Pro will be released in August - there's still 27 days to go in the month. Be patient!

@Former user wrote

Why you can't give us the release date ? it's strange

Why would it be important to you to you to know the exact release date now?

Why would I want to see the software released?
Well, simply to see if the VP team has put any new features in the video codecs for exporting, to see if they have removed the limitation to export above 4k ...
But I already know the answer, I know that there is nothing changed on that side, so I admit that I wait for nothing this version finally to say frankly.

Looks like the 2-for-1 deal on the product page has been extended to August 9... would be surprised if Vegas 19 became available before that. Ordered mine already but happy to give the developers the time needed to make it the best new release ever.

The best new release ? I'm laugh sorry, don't dream for that, really. Since VP14 this software is never, for the moment, the very best software. Adobe is the first for the vidéo, next Adobe is Resolve, Vegas Pro is last.

The best new release ? I'm laugh sorry, don't dream for that, really. Since VP14 this software is never, for the moment, the very best software. Adobe is the first for the vidéo, next Adobe is Resolve, Vegas Pro is last.

I'm very sorry you feel this way, but it makes me wonder why you are spending so much time here when you feel there are so many better options available to you.

IVAN-TIRFUTI, What is wrong with you? You continuously asked about the release date, and you are informed exactly when in August..... Why are you persisting with the rude tone. You have the option of using Adobe or Resolve since they are better!

The best new release ? I'm laugh sorry, don't dream for that, really. Since VP14 this software is never, for the moment, the very best software. Adobe is the first for the vidéo, next Adobe is Resolve, Vegas Pro is last.

Which brings up this question.... what are you even doing here then? You know where the "best" is, so why not go there? Nothing is stopping you from moving on.,..

You remind me of my children.... "are we there yet...." every 2 minutes.....

Well, simply to see if the VP team has put any new features in the video codecs for exporting, to see if they have removed the limitation to export above 4k ...

That's hilarious, as 18 supports above 4k export already, and introduced new codec support as well (ProRes).

I think @Former user is just a troll.....

walter-i, Yes, (after some investigation), he is indeed a troll.... He is doing the very same over on the Facebook page.

We have already seen the first view of Vegas. How about the second and third?

Dear Derek and Pascal

It is strange that you devote more time to the Trolls in answering than to people with constructive questions. To this day, I don't know the answer to why the bugs from version 12 appear in versions 17 and 18, which cause Vegas to freeze. Why DRAM settings and the number of threads when rendering are still problematic. Why is Vegas so slow in preview and Premiere so fast? When can we look forward to marking events with the right mouse button. Why is deflicker such a bad plugin. Why is the protype titler obsolete and when will you finally present us an adequate replacement. Etc.

These are certainly more interesting topics for us than answering someone over and over again, why the new Vegas will not be released yesterday and tomorrow.

Dear Derek and Pascal

It is strange that you devote more time to the Trolls in answering than to people with constructive questions. To this day, I don't know the answer to why the bugs from version 12 appear in versions 17 and 18, which cause Vegas to freeze.

@pierre-k Hi Pierre. The VEGAS team works silently in the official forum because this is a forum between users and the moderators or power users (they make an awesome job). The word "silently" means that we are reading and we will ask for more details via PM... and the team continuously eliminates the bugs every user reports in the VEGAS error reporting system.

What do you mean by "constructive question"?

• We are reading the feature requests for the next update or release without a post from us.
• Power users or other users are able to answer workflow questions
• We answer direct to the user if we find the error in our reporting system. So please use the description in the error report dialog with the last steps before the crash happens and your user name.

In the beta program we discuss directly to each error report in a specific forum for the next update or release.

Why DRAM settings and the number of threads when rendering are still problematic. Why is Vegas so slow in preview and Premiere so fast?

There are different reasons in the architecture. Premiere starts with each change a prerender. In VEGAS the user have to start this manually. Something to discuss for the future. The DRAM is a hot topic with focus.

When can we look forward to marking events with the right mouse button.

Is this a feature request or a missing feature?

Why is deflicker such a bad plugin.

Deflicker is not a "bad plugin" but maybe not running in real-time on the timeline. Why? The plugin has to compare each pixel in one frame with a lot of pixel in previous frames. In combination with motion tracking the algorithm has to decide which is the corresponding pixel. This is no easy task for your PC.

Why is the protype titler obsolete and when will you finally present us an adequate replacement. Etc.

ProType titler is depricated but still working. At the moment there is no official replacement.

These are certainly more interesting topics for us than answering someone over and over again, why the new Vegas will not be released yesterday and tomorrow.

I am the starter of this thread so I am the troll hunter. 😂

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