VEGAS Pro 20 Build 214 General Thread

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fr0sty wrote on 12/20/2022, 11:14 AM

Will this build make me regret buying VP20 ?😳 I'll check it out though. Thanks.

I doubt it... Those same bug fixes either already have been or will soon be added to 20, and 20 has more features.

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Vincent-Brice wrote on 12/28/2022, 5:41 AM

I went for it and upgraded from v19, and for the last hour and a half have thoroughly enjoyed using it. But like v19, it's such a shame that when you open the Color Grading panel it overrides your custom layout. For example, I have my Waveform Video Scope (and other tabs) large on a second monitor but everything is crammed onto my main monitor when I open Color Grading. You can undock the Color Grading panel and move it, which is great, so I can see my timeline again, but I can't seem to undock the Video Scope? If I could, I think I'd tweak Levels, if I also needed to tweak WB, from within the Color Grading panel.

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RogerS wrote on 12/28/2022, 6:31 AM

I think I created my own windows layout with the grading panel and just toggle between that one and a standard layout.

Sging2 wrote on 12/31/2022, 5:35 AM

I have to say I'm very disappointed in this new update, just went from Vegas 19 to 20 with today's update but the timeline is incredibly laggy in Vegas 20, to the point where I'm sitting banging my fist on my table in frustration. I can't figure out why this new version is so much worse and I tried copying over my preferences but that didn't help either. What is going on with this new update?

I'm the same and have raised a call in with Magix for a few weeks with no luck yet. I have a laggy timeline, a second or two before anything happens after a click of the mouse on anything and constant crashing. I have given up on 20 until its fixed and have gone back to 19 which is perfect, same media used on both as they are all weddings filmed the same way, the last wedding I edited with 20 took twice as long to finish as normal and that was a HD one.

The one I am editing in 19 now is 4K one and no issues at all in 19 and flying through it, even though I have now gone with the subscription I am sticking with 19 for this season's weddings. Just something I noticed and to note, I accidently opened a 4K edit up in 20 which I had started in 19 and it was perfect and all normal as like when in 19, no lagging, no crashing and ran just like 19, UNTIL I clicked save and it said do you want to save to a newer file type, so after backing up the file I tried it and as soon as it converted to 20 all the bad issues started again making me think its something to do with the new file type, not sure but there's a strong clue there.

Not sure if you have seen it, but others are having the same issue, there's a post called "Not Responding" you may want to check out.

 

Kind Regards

Stephen

Dexcon wrote on 12/31/2022, 6:02 AM

In Vegas Pro 20, there is a new feature in the Hub Explorer that records VEGAS Projects in some way or another. And all goes well until saving a project and then VP20 bogs right down on the timeline. A suggestion on the forum a few months ago that worked for me is to go into the Hub Explorer and turn off 'Create Project Collection' via the slider switch in the top task bar of the Hub Explorer:

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fr0sty wrote on 12/31/2022, 7:56 AM

The hub explorer archives your projects and their media for you, to make them easier to access, but some users (I'm assuming with slower hard drives) report that it slows their systems down when left on auto.

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Reyfox wrote on 12/31/2022, 8:15 AM

@fr0sty, I'm on NVME's and SSD's, with mechanical storage. But I do have a question Will it only save the media used or everything tossed into Vegas?

Vincent-Brice wrote on 12/31/2022, 9:08 AM

On a positive note, and as general feedback, whereas I had a stability issue with v19, (and I share others frustrations) so far, after a fair few hours of use, v20 is rock solid, all defaults, straight out the box, not a glitch. Timeline super smooth and responsive. But, mine's non subscription v20 edit with no extra plugins. Even the screen capture that refused to work for me in 19 is working perfect on my dual screen setup. Thanks Magix 😃

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fr0sty wrote on 12/31/2022, 1:20 PM

You should see the new update... feature PACKED. LOOONG list of fixes. Not kidding when I say it could pass for a new numbered version release. It shouldn't be too far off, either.

fr0sty wrote on 12/31/2022, 1:23 PM

@fr0sty, I'm on NVME's and SSD's, with mechanical storage. But I do have a question Will it only save the media used or everything tossed into Vegas?

I don't remember specifically, I'd have to check again. Just like we use bins to organize media within a project, this is used to organize entire projects as well as the media within them, so you can easily access a clip in another project and drop it into your current one.

pierre-k wrote on 1/5/2023, 6:25 PM

You should see the new update... feature PACKED. LOOONG list of fixes. Not kidding when I say it could pass for a new numbered version release. It shouldn't be too far off, either.

Before the new update comes out, can you reveal any interesting fixes for old bugs? Please.

RogerS wrote on 1/5/2023, 6:47 PM

The updates all come with release notes.

DasFragezeichen wrote on 1/6/2023, 4:45 PM

Yes. The Changelogs from the Vegas-Team are exemplary. I love it. Not some shity and useless things like "Routine bug fixes and user experience improvements." like some others. Thanks for that.

bitman wrote on 1/8/2023, 1:48 AM

@DasFragezeichen Yes, the release notes are indeed exemplary, but where is the manual?

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bitman wrote on 1/8/2023, 2:14 AM

@fr0sty I hope they added Flemish in text-to-speech (as promised) in the upcoming release. I just whished the team would bring out more frequent updates - and if they have cold feet about not giving it enough test time as features, changes and fixes can impact quality; what is preventing the team to release beta versions to the public? These beta versions would be just that - beta, let the public decide themselves if they want to take the risk of installing less tested and potentially buggy software. If you want stability, choose the official version. Resolve does this, I see no complaints on that way of working.

But that it seems, is not going to happen, even worse, as I read somewhere in this forum, the team is planning to reduce the update frequency to allow for better testing/quality deliverance. Very noble, but if you have an issue that needs fixing, I would hate to wait half a year for a big bang release with lots of new contend that feels like a numbered release. What's the harm in dual track delivery: releasing beta versions and stable versions?

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DasFragezeichen wrote on 1/8/2023, 2:25 AM

For now, there is none.

But I think a written manual is out of time.

I think better would be some video tutorials for beginners with standard functions often used and some advanced tutorial for features often used by professionals and / or new features.

I think that should be one of the next steps Magix should do, to be more user friendly. It also could help to switch users away from Premiere (Pro) to Vegas. I often find tutorials videos (mostly made from users) for this overpriced piece of software.

For example: I love this video () from Prodad. When I used it the first time, it helps me to understand how the plugin is to use.On their YouTube Channel there are some more tutorials (But for now, it seems to be dead) Magix should to this, too.

walter-i. wrote on 1/8/2023, 3:56 AM

For now, there is none.

But I think a written manual is out of time.

I think better would be some video tutorials for beginners with standard functions often used and some advanced tutorial for features often used by professionals and / or new features.

@DasFragezeichen

Is that what you imagine? https://www.youtube.com/@VEGASCreativeSoftware/videos

DasFragezeichen wrote on 1/8/2023, 4:12 AM

Yes, thanks for that. Didn't know that channel.

vkmast wrote on 1/8/2023, 4:20 AM

Check also what's under https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/ > Discover (Learn, Tutorials, Artists)

You may need to take some time to go through e.g. the Video Academy (and "Show more"s there).

fr0sty wrote on 1/8/2023, 7:45 AM

@fr0sty I hope they added Flemish in text-to-speech (as promised) in the upcoming release. I just whished the team would bring out more frequent updates - and if they have cold feet about not giving it enough test time as features, changes and fixes can impact quality; what is preventing the team to release beta versions to the public? These beta versions would be just that - beta, let the public decide themselves if they want to take the risk of installing less tested and potentially buggy software. If you want stability, choose the official version. Resolve does this, I see no complaints on that way of working.

But that it seems, is not going to happen, even worse, as I read somewhere in this forum, the team is planning to reduce the update frequency to allow for better testing/quality deliverance. Very noble, but if you have an issue that needs fixing, I would hate to wait half a year for a big bang release with lots of new contend that feels like a numbered release. What's the harm in dual track delivery: releasing beta versions and stable versions.

This particular update is taking a while because it is loaded to the teeth with new features, some that are really awesome, and once they are finished will be complete game changers to the way we do coloring and visual effects in Vegas.

As far as releasing public betas goes, it is something that has been talked about, but currently the team is too small to manage that, having a smaller focused beta team is much easier for a small team to work with, all the feedback doesn't get lost under mountains of posts. It's currently working great, if you could only see the pace of development right now versus what it was 2 years ago...

 

As for text to speech, I can't comment on that, I wouldn't be allowed to even if I knew, I imagine that it's in there if they mentioned that they were adding it in the past. If I'm not mistaken it is a third party service, which is why it requires a subscription, and if that is the case then it would be on that third party to add any new language support, but that does not mean Flemish support did not make it into the update.

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RogerS wrote on 1/8/2023, 9:50 PM

The third party (not a secret- Microsoft Azure) already has Flemish and many other languages- it's just that a subset are enabled with Vegas. There are also other features not incorporated- would be funny to have "shouting" as an option as in the demo.

VEGASDerek wrote on 1/9/2023, 8:41 AM

I will confirm that Flemish will be in available in the next update.

bitman wrote on 1/11/2023, 1:34 AM

@VEGASDerek Thanks! Looking forward to the new release!

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  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
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fr0sty wrote on 1/16/2023, 2:27 PM

What's the harm in dual track delivery: releasing beta versions and stable versions.

 

One more comment regarding a public beta... that actually will be done for certain features, which will be released in beta form (the new VST engine started this way, RAW support as well), and I wouldn't be surprised to see that continue into the future, where a new feature is launched in a beta state and they get feedback from everyone as it finishes development. So while there is not a full public beta of all features planned, it will be done with select features.

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