Magix, will there be an upgrade offer?

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Eagle Six wrote on 10/15/2016, 10:10 AM

I really don't like the word "upgrade" here... Just saying. 


I agree, both upgrade offers were/are available to anyone, that is not an upgrade offer.  I would consider the first offer to have been a 'fire sale'.  I consider the second offer to be, at worst a ripoff, at least, an insult to the user base.  Upgrade offers are made to keep loyal customer and get them into the new version thereby helping to build expasion of the user base.  It appears the new owners of Vegas Pro have a lack of loyality towards their loyal user customer base. 

Best Regards.......George

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Flexinoodle wrote on 10/15/2016, 10:40 AM

Another interesting thing, my version of Acid is one version back, and the upgrade page is saying invalid serial haha, so no way that can be upgraded.

This is all atypical Magix crap and i hope they suffer sales badly for it !!

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/15/2016, 10:41 AM

Quitter is right to state that this thread is drifting in the wrong direction. So lets go back to the original topic please.

vkmast wrote on 10/15/2016, 11:01 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/magix-will-there-be-an-upgrade-offer--103617/

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/magix-will-there-be-an-upgrade-offer--103617/?page=10#ca643035

Another point is if you or somebody else feel not satisfied with the actual offers. Fair enough for you others to say so.

I agree with Nick, who is "staying positive, I like to think that soon we'll have a patch that fixes the new bugs, we'll all be properly in the Magix database and mailing list, a more palatable November upgrade offer will come along, and that the future will bring real improvements to the software."

Note that the "ongoing standard" price still equals the "special" offer.

 

Eagle Six wrote on 10/15/2016, 11:10 AM

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/15/2016, 08:41 AM

Quitter is right to state that this thread is drifting in the wrong direction. So lets go back to the original topic please.


Fair enough, so I'm asking, as has Martin, will there be an upgrade offer from Sony Vegas Pro 13 to Magix Vegas Pro 14?

Best Regards......George

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OldSmoke wrote on 10/15/2016, 1:01 PM

It was not me to state that revenues would have been higher with lower prices. And the guy who beliefes that do not know if that is true.

Very simple calculation in my case: VP14 for $249: Magix sales = 0, VP14 for anything below $199: Magix sales= what ever the price below $199 would be.

And that is a fact.

Last changed by OldSmoke on 10/15/2016, 1:02 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/15/2016, 1:09 PM

We said back to topic. 

OldSmoke wrote on 10/15/2016, 1:21 PM

We said back in topic.

Why? Because you are the God here and want to have the last word on the mess Magix created? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

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PSU: Corsair 1200W
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Tom Pauncz wrote on 10/15/2016, 1:35 PM

We said back to topic. 


I really don't see how this is "off topic" ... No-one with any real knowledge from Magix has chimed in.

risce1 wrote on 10/15/2016, 1:53 PM

is on topic, but this may not be, I would not load the current Magix version of Vegas if they paid me 249.00. Hoping they sort things out for the future, including a decent upgrade package

VidMus wrote on 10/15/2016, 2:13 PM

We said back to topic. 

Is it back on topic OR what you would like the replies and posts to be?

I have been keeping quiet on this for a while but one thing that annoys me a lot is that certain people on here are extremely on the side of Magix and not enough on the side of us loyal Vegas Pro users.

My trial period will end soon and so will Vegas 14. At that time, I will go back to my other boot drive and it will be as if Vegas 14 was never there. I will still check in to see posts concerning Sony Vegas Pro 13.

 

 

Eagle Six wrote on 10/15/2016, 2:16 PM

VidMus wrote on 10/15/2016, 12:13 PM

My trial period will end soon and so will Vegas 14. At that time, I will go back to my other boot drive and it will be as if Vegas 14 was never there. I will still check in to see posts concerning Sony Vegas Pro 13.

+1

Best Regards......George

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Quitter wrote on 10/15/2016, 2:29 PM

Eagle Six wrote on 10/15/2016, 06:10 PM

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/15/2016, 08:41 AM

Quitter is right to state that this thread is drifting in the wrong direction. So lets go back to the original topic please.


Fair enough, so I'm asking, as has Martin, will there be an upgrade offer from Sony Vegas Pro 13 to Magix Vegas Pro 14?

The simple answer is yes.
For $249
Upgrade offer valid until October 30, 2016

And you can moan as long as you want.
I guess it will not change.

Eagle Six wrote on 10/15/2016, 2:36 PM

Quitter wrote on 10/15/2016, 12:29 PM

The simple answer is yes.
For $249
Upgrade offer valid until October 30, 2016

And you can moan as long as you want.
I guess it will not change.

Well that was rather rude, but inaccurate, $249 until 10-30-2016 is an extension and the same offer expired 10-16-2016.....neither is an upgrade, although you can say that as long as you want.  It's not an answer to my question or the thread topic.

Best Regards.....George

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Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

Quitter wrote on 10/15/2016, 3:01 PM

Rude or not.
This is all you get, no matter what way. (inaccurate??)

It is slowly embarrassing.

vkmast wrote on 10/15/2016, 3:20 PM

 (inaccurate??)

"the thing is, as others have said, this isn't an upgrade. It's just an offer for all. An upgrade would normally be tied to validated ownership of a previous product and reward the user's previous investment in the product."

From this comment: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/magix-will-there-be-an-upgrade-offer--103617/?page=6#ca639425

"At the moment you needn't any S/N at all to get that price."

From this comment: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/magix-will-there-be-an-upgrade-offer--103617/?page=8#ca641171

Tom Pauncz wrote on 10/15/2016, 3:25 PM

Be that as it may, very early I opened a ticket with Magix on this subject. A few days ago, I received this link from support - https://support2.magix.com/customer/de/vegas/upgrade - and it does actually ask for a serial number. Bad news is that it directs to the same $249 "upgrade" price. Oh well... please turn out the lights when leaving.

Quitter wrote on 10/15/2016, 3:39 PM

Do not misunderstand
I agree with you
But it does not change, the price is $ 249 (upgrade or not)

And I think 300 posts further on, it is still $ 249

Eagle Six wrote on 10/15/2016, 3:59 PM

Well I'm happy we don't have any misunderstanding now.

I agree, the price was $199.00, and it's now $249.00 (at least for a few more days, who knows after that).

Magix can print online and in email the word 'upgrade', but that doesn't make it an upgrade offer for loyal customers, when anyone can buy the offer.......it's as simple as that.  So my question still stands, will magix announce an upgrade offer?  Most likely not, at least it doesn't appear so.

Best Regards......George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

Quitter wrote on 10/15/2016, 4:20 PM
Magix can print online and in email the word 'upgrade', but that doesn't make it an upgrade offer for loyal customers, when anyone can buy the offer.......it's as simple as that. 

Yes, you are 100% right

will magix announce an upgrade offer? Most likely not, at least it doesn't appear so.

And I'm afraid here, too

Tom Pauncz wrote on 10/15/2016, 4:39 PM

+1

ushere wrote on 10/16/2016, 12:08 AM

+2

think i'm already bored and over with this whole shebang. have the distinct feeling magix isn't going anywhere i want to go, looking at anything that i think needs looking at, and finally, continuing to insult me with their 'upgrade' price which, apparently, seems more of a downgrade since i can't use any of my existing plugins...

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/16/2016, 2:16 AM

We said back in topic.

Why? Because you are the God here and want to have the last word on the mess Magix created? Sorry, doesn't work that way.

No I am not God. But I am  moderator who is in charge for the community rules. And you harm again and again the community rules, posting the same points again and again what makes no sense. And the answer to all the topic  has been posted anyway: there is an offer but you do not like it. That is ok that you do not like it. But ir is not ok that you ignore here both the community rules including orders by moderators. 

Spectralis wrote on 10/16/2016, 9:41 AM

The $199 offer specified an "upgrade to Vegas Pro 14" so technically it did include an upgrade for new customers. The latest $249 offer, as other posters have pointed out, is where the "upgrade" link directs VP13 owners. But it's all semantics anyway. $249 is the only offer available to those of us with VP13 so it's a rose by any other name.

As for the poster who claimed that we all had the chance to take the $199 offer - yes, that's true but that ignores the fact that a Magix employee told us to wait for the upgrade deal on the Sony forum. If I had known then how Magix operate then of course I would have ignored his advice and possibly taken the deal. I'm sure the captain of the Titanic would have avoided the iceberg in hindsight.