VEGAS Pro 21 Build 187 General Thread

VEGAS_CommunityManager wrote on 11/8/2023, 5:50 AM

Hello everyone,

The VEGAS Team is excited to announce the release of VEGAS Pro 21, build 187. Please use this thread to post general comments on this update. For details on VEGAS Pro 21, please read this post in the News forum.

If you are having any issues using the update or have specific questions, please create a new thread.

Thank you,

The VEGAS Creative Software Team

Comments

Reyfox wrote on 11/8/2023, 7:38 AM

Installation went fine. So far, doing a fairly simple UHD 4K 50P 4:2:0 video with using the color panel, Boris plugins, and Vegas titles, stability for me on my computer has been pretty rock solid. Edited 6 hours without a crash.

Kudos to the developers and beta testers! What an extensive list of fixes! Now... get that AMD/Vegas/Vegas Effects color swap fixed!

AV1 export went well with a quick test.

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Vegas Post 365 (Currently VP21)

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Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Phil_P wrote on 11/8/2023, 7:40 AM

Installed and running using the direct downloads, thank you.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, does the Mocha Vegas (for users that have it), also need updating? If so, how? (I have tried registering MV from within the Mocha environment and the registration fails).

Thank you. P.

Petersson wrote on 11/8/2023, 8:24 AM

Improved performance and responsiveness of VST plugins when editing envelopes 

Well I hope this is finally nailed.

I am still using Vegas 20 / build 370 because two way communication for the VST was unworkable.

In version 21 one way (host2VST) was fixed, but "the other way" (VST2host) still was slugish.

I will try it out this weekend and report back here.

Thanks for the massive bug fix list, anyhow!

vkmast wrote on 11/8/2023, 8:39 AM

@Petersson wrote

I will try it out this weekend and report back here.

As you are testing a specific issue, please "create a new thread" as advised in the OP. Thank you.

jacknsb wrote on 11/8/2023, 8:46 AM

I am normally one to advocate for new features as I've done so on this forum in the past, but I don't think anyone can argue that the amount of things fixed in this update is anything but impressive. Thanks MAGIX for the QoL improvements!

Petersson wrote on 11/8/2023, 8:55 AM

@Petersson wrote

I will try it out this weekend and report back here.

As you are testing a specific issue, please "create a new thread" as advised in the OP. Thank you.

I will, but I just use this thread to say "thank you for the update" as part of the "general thread".

Sorry if I do things wrong.

I created tons of topic reports for almost all the VST-issues, but every time other users says "I was making things up".

Just to clarify : I don't make things up, 100% of all my reported bugs are valid and reproducible.

Petersson wrote on 11/8/2023, 8:57 AM

I am normally one to advocate for new features as I've done so on this forum in the past, but I don't think anyone can argue that the amount of things fixed in this update is anything but impressive. Thanks MAGIX for the QoL improvements!

Fixes are more important then new features.

I rather have a stable, solid and trustable workflow than one that crashes several times a day "because of the new features".

RogerS wrote on 11/8/2023, 9:12 AM

I noticed a few of the VSTs that crashed or displayed improperly with build 108 (cut off and unusable) are now working acceptably. There's still a lag toggling between them as they are redrawn but it's going in a very good direction.

The adjustment event fix when used with Fx that move pixels around makes it much more useful for me!

@Phil_P I didn't need to do anything with Mocha VEGAS to continue using it.

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VEGAS Pro 20.411
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Try the
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VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Phil_P wrote on 11/8/2023, 9:16 AM

@Phil_P I didn't need to do anything with Mocha VEGAS to continue using it.

Thanks Roger, yes, Mocha is working fine, apart from the registration part crashing, (I have written to Boris about it). I was only wondering if there was an update for it.

I thought I had read somewhere that the Vegas update was being held off until some update of Mocha was released. I was probably imagining it. :-) Not to worry.

Richard-Chisum wrote on 11/8/2023, 9:54 AM

Vegas Hub still doesn't work for me. Every other window works except for Vegas Content, and it closes immediately and doesn't come back. I have to use Vegas 20 to download footage.No idea what's causing the difference.

BiswasArt wrote on 11/8/2023, 9:58 AM

It seems they finally replaced the legacy mkv reader and now it supports hevc in mkv format... this is a big update for me. I hope the whole app is stable now. Vegas 20 was the most reliable for me but upgrading to 21 got me into a lot of crashes. Also the vegas effects started to crash regularly but it finally looks stable now after the update.

gabgilson wrote on 11/8/2023, 10:07 AM

Installation all smooth. Wasn't prompted to update the DLM but downloaded and did it anyway. Do my eyes deceive me, or is this a huge step forward with playback of HEVC (h.265) files? I work with 4k Sony A7siii 60fps 10 bit files. Previously timeline would wait a second before playing with stutters, so proxies were essential. But now, timeline playback is OK. Will likely still use proxies, but even for grading this is a joyous step forward.
Something odd going on with Happy Otter generated proxies, but I'll post that in the approriate place.
Thank you!

VEGASDerek wrote on 11/8/2023, 10:56 AM

@gabgilson said:

 Do my eyes deceive me, or is this a huge step forward with playback of HEVC (h.265) files?

This includes some very early stages of the new video engine and GPU support. Much more to come in the future.

Robert Johnston wrote on 11/8/2023, 10:58 AM

I have problems transferring bezier motion tracking data to another event. Just crashes. But the Smart Mask seems to work better. Went back to prior version since I need bezier to work. I'm not going to try to figure out what is going wrong, especially after my awful experience with Topaz.

Intel Core i7 10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz (to 4.65GHz), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GBytes. Memory 32 GBytes DDR4. Also Intel UHD Graphics 630. Mainboard: Dell Inc. PCI-Express 3.0 (8.0 GT/s) Comet Lake. Bench CPU Multi Thread: 5500.5 per CPU-Z.

Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro

pierre-k wrote on 11/8/2023, 11:21 AM

This is what?

It used to be Legacy. Now experimental. Please explain.

bitman wrote on 11/8/2023, 11:50 AM

@pierre-k Good question, I presume this is part of the rewrite/improve/overhaul process of the video engine the developers are working on, but not quite finished, nor confident (say beta). But you do not have to take my word on that - I know nothing, I am from Barcelona - as spoken in a legendary British's comedy series (although I am from Belgium). Best one of the team answers your question.

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APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (21 - build 314), VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 16 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2024, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 17, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 23H2 (November 2023)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K), Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:11 PM

Posting to a new thread shortly.

fr0sty wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:19 PM

We're also noticing during testing that the audio pop issue at the end of clips has been resolved, please report back and let us know if you notice the same.

Good question, I presume this is part of the rewrite/improve/overhaul process of the video engine the developers are working on

You presume correctly. Step one of the new video engine...

This includes some very early stages of the new video engine and GPU support. Much more to come in the future.

VEGAS Pro is maturing into a fast, modern, reliable, rock solid video editing platform. It's an exciting time to be a VEGAS owner, and I'm hyped for the future.

 

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Illusion wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:22 PM

We're also noticing during testing that the audio pop issue at the end of clips has been resolved, please report back and let us know if you notice the same.

I opened older projects where I know I had this issue systematically and the problem seems to be gone with the latest load!

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pierre-k wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:26 PM

These two issues with Waves plugins are still not resolved.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/bug-three-problems-with-waves-plugins-only-in-vp20--140944/

bitman wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:36 PM

The positive impact of the solving of the occasional audio pop issue at the end of clips is not to be underestimated, this is really a very helpful bug fix, one of my favorite fixes! Kudos to the team!

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (21 - build 314), VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 16 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2024, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 17, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 23H2 (November 2023)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K), Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

VEGASDerek wrote on 11/8/2023, 12:38 PM

The positive impact of the solving of the occasional audio pop issue at the end of clips is not to be underestimated, this is really a very helpful bug fix, one of my favorite fixes! Kudos to the team!

@bitman We still have a this issue with some formats. We are working on getting this solved entirely in the next patch.

pierre-k wrote on 11/8/2023, 1:06 PM

This bug has been bugging me since VP12, where it first appeared. Not fixed yet.

A delay of tens of seconds if you mark all the files in the folder with the shortcut CTRL+A

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vp11-vs-vp12-19-select-all-files-in-a-folder-please-fix--122912/

NickHope wrote on 11/8/2023, 1:21 PM

Installed and running using the direct downloads, thank you.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, does the Mocha Vegas (for users that have it), also need updating? If so, how? (I have tried registering MV from within the Mocha environment and the registration fails).

Thank you. P.

@Phil_P The "dlm" download managers are still offering Mocha VEGAS 9.5.8.20, which is the same version as when VP21 build 108 was released, which implies that there is no update available yet.