I found Vegas very hard to use, what kind of developers are they?

formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 5:43 AM

Imagine, so-called professional video editing software and i cant make an arrow blinking - there is no transparency effects so i can add keyframes - we cant add keyframes to the video line if we do not use some effects and that effects missing. Honestly, i am working with Filmora, VideoPAD even Premiere and Elements but vegas is the most non-professional editor ever for use. With any other video editor, i say any even you can be beginner you will make arrow blink for less than a 1 min.

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alifftudm95 wrote on 11/9/2021, 6:52 AM

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VEGAS control the opacity directly on the event, which is much more faster than traditional keyframe which required 4 sets of keyframe for every blinking interval?

You can also automate the track composite to achieve the blinking FX.

Watch this video:

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3POINT wrote on 11/9/2021, 7:31 AM

Imagine, so-called professional video editing software and i cant make an arrow blinking -

 

That you can't doesn't mean that Vegas can't. It shows only your ignorance of using Vegas.

jetdv wrote on 11/9/2021, 7:48 AM

At the track level, add a composite envelope. Then change the opacity by lowering the envelope. Here's an example of a flashing arrow.

Where the blue composite envelope is at the top, you can see the arrow. Where the blue composite envelop is at the bottom, the arrow will not be visible. plus you can make a selection area and just drag downwards in that selection area and it will automatically create all four keyframe points needed. Open the help file and search for "Composite Envelope".

formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 8:08 AM

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VEGAS control the opacity directly on the event, which is much more faster than traditional keyframe which required 4 sets of keyframe for every blinking interval?

You can also automate the track composite to achieve the blinking FX.

Watch this video:

Yes but i can't add keyframes on that control - i found a way with split then fade in and out .. But i think why should be so complicated ! Thanks for video , will check it for other tips. Regards

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formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 8:12 AM

Imagine, so-called professional video editing software and i cant make an arrow blinking -

 

That you can't doesn't mean that Vegas can't. It shows only your ignorance of using Vegas.

It shows my ignorance of using Vegas and your comment shows your Ignorance as a person.

1. I dint say Vegas cant - i say it's hard for beginners compared to some other editors

2. Read before you post stupid comments

3. No one forced you to replay if you want to help welcome but if you want to post useless comments like this one, just stay away from my thread!!!

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formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 8:20 AM

At the track level, add a composite envelope. Then change the opacity by lowering the envelope. Here's an example of a flashing arrow.

Where the blue composite envelope is at the top, you can see the arrow. Where the blue composite envelop is at the bottom, the arrow will not be visible. plus you can make a selection area and just drag downwards in that selection area and it will automatically create all four keyframe points needed. Open the help file and search for "Composite Envelope".

Thank you, this was gr8 explanation. Really appreciated

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Reyfox wrote on 11/9/2021, 8:22 AM

Being "ignorant" can be condescending or not. I don't think it was meant to be in the comment. There is more than one definition for that word, but it comes down to basically saying "the lack of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject". You might know the other software better than Vegas. Heck, I have a consumer editor that will do some things way faster (Multicam editing for one) than Vegas. That doesn't mean that Vegas is not "professional".

You start of your post with "Imagine, so-called professional video editing software and i cant make an arrow blinking". Vegas is a professional video editor and you can make a blinking arrow, you just do not know how with Vegas. I would have asked "how" instead of starting off with your initial words. You are offending people that do use the software professionally.

@alifftudm95 a highly skilled PROFESSIONAL that uses Vegas said how it can be done, and added his beginners tutorial, which is excellent. I've watched it and learned new ways of working with Vegas. @jetdv also suggested "how". It might be more complex, but there is more to life than just a "blinking arrow". For timeline editing, I've not found any software as fast as Vegas, and I have several on my computer ranging from consumer to "professional".

In the end, I use the right tool for the right job to get it done as efficiently as possible.

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3POINT wrote on 11/9/2021, 8:35 AM

@formingus who started stupid comments?

@Reyfox +1

RogerS wrote on 11/9/2021, 9:15 AM

@formingus I know that can be hard to do when you're feeling frustrated but you'll get better answers on this forum if you don't insult the software or the other users. Just say you don't know how to do something and ask for help, and people will give you multiple ways to accomplish the task.

Former user wrote on 11/9/2021, 9:26 AM

@formingus 😂👍 I understand your frustration, i often come here with a post that i word in a frustrated way, but these people are good, they do it off their own back & will help you, I do like Vegas & it is good, it will do the majority of things you want.

I do think 3POINT meant it in the literal way, ignorance as in your lack of knowledge reg Vegas, some words like that can be easily misread, esp if you're already in a frustrated mood but he could've maybe embellished his comment to clarify that a little so's as not to make it appear so blunt & patronising, & as Reyfox & RogerS says you're better off asking rather than stating then you wouldn't get such replies, (I'm still learning that 😂😂)

 

formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 9:41 AM

Being "ignorant" can be condescending or not. I don't think it was meant to be in the comment. There is more than one definition for that word, but it comes down to basically saying "the lack of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject". You might know the other software better than Vegas. Heck, I have a consumer editor that will do some things way faster (Multicam editing for one) than Vegas. That doesn't mean that Vegas is not "professional".

You start of your post with "Imagine, so-called professional video editing software and i cant make an arrow blinking". Vegas is a professional video editor and you can make a blinking arrow, you just do not know how with Vegas. I would have asked "how" instead of starting off with your initial words. You are offending people that do use the software professionally.

@alifftudm95 a highly skilled PROFESSIONAL that uses Vegas said how it can be done, and added his beginners tutorial, which is excellent. I've watched it and learned new ways of working with Vegas. @jetdv also suggested "how". It might be more complex, but there is more to life than just a "blinking arrow". For timeline editing, I've not found any software as fast as Vegas, and I have several on my computer ranging from consumer to "professional".

In the end, I use the right tool for the right job to get it done as efficiently as possible.

Word ignorant is offending word, leak of knowledge is something different.

English is not mine main language and with word so-called I mean a professional video editor not like others editors with some main functions, that is reason why I want to learn it, bcz it has more way futures the Videopad , filmora that I use currently.

Not knowing to work with Vegas will not make anyone ignorant bcz all of us work with different software's. I am pretty shure that, that clever person that call other ignorant dont know to work with alot of other software's that we do, but this not make him ignorant.

 

Ignorant is way of his act not to not know to work with vegas or any other software's. Any way thanks for your suggestions

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formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 9:43 AM

@formingus 😂👍 I understand your frustration, i often come here with a post that i word in a frustrated way, but these people are good, they do it off their own back & will help you, I do like Vegas & it is good, it will do the majority of things you want.

I do think 3POINT meant it in the literal way, ignorance as in your lack of knowledge reg Vegas, some words like that can be easily misread, esp if you're already in a frustrated mood but he could've maybe embellished his comment to clarify that a little so's as not to make it appear so blunt & patronising, & as Reyfox & RogerS says you're better off asking rather than stating then you wouldn't get such replies, (I'm still learning that 😂😂)

 

Friend, I ma pretty shure that vegas can do more than any other software, thats why I want to learn it. Yes you do have right I was a bit frustated bcz I cant make a simple blinking for 1 hour but realy a blink with some.other sw can be done in 30 sec. ANY WAY thanks. Appreciated 😊

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formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 9:47 AM

@formingus who started stupid comments?

@Reyfox +1

Mine was opinion and not comment, you should start learn primary life stuff and dont offend others. Next time yll get very rude replay. So simply, this is mine thread as I say for help, welcome to offend go find another thread

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adis-a3097 wrote on 11/9/2021, 10:04 AM

Mhhh...don't you dare read the Manual first! 😂

Reyfox wrote on 11/9/2021, 10:10 AM

@formingus to "you" it's offending depending on the context used. But it basically means you do not know something that is be talked about. English is my primary language so I speak from experience, posted a definition in quotes, and it's not based upon feelings of the wrong interpretation of the word usage in the text.

Someone not knowing how a particular software works IS ignorant on how to use the software. Look up the English definition of ignorant. Being ignorant of facts doesn't mean you are stupid or dumb. It means you do not know the facts.

The more "professional" the editor, the less automation they have. Professional editors do not want to rely on "canned" fixed effects that are common in consumer editors. They usually want to control every aspect of the editing process and the effects that are used. This does require more time in editing, whereas consumer editors will do all the work for you with "wizards", "templates", pre-made effects.

Maybe now, we can move on past our feelings and have a productive, informative "conversation".

 

 

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3POINT wrote on 11/9/2021, 11:09 AM

Someone not knowing how a particular software works IS ignorant on how to use the software. Look up the English definition of ignorant. Being ignorant of facts doesn't mean you are stupid or dumb. It means you do not know the facts.

That's exactly how my comment was meant when using the word "ignorance".

@formingus When you read my signature, you maybe can imagine how many Vegasusers I helped before, but I don't help users requesting help at your way. Good luck and happy editing.

Musicvid wrote on 11/9/2021, 11:12 AM

"Tis a poor workman who blames his tools."

formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 12:02 PM

@formingus to "you" it's offending depending on the context used. But it basically means you do not know something that is be talked about. English is my primary language so I speak from experience, posted a definition in quotes, and it's not based upon feelings of the wrong interpretation of the word usage in the text.

Someone not knowing how a particular software works IS ignorant on how to use the software. Look up the English definition of ignorant. Being ignorant of facts doesn't mean you are stupid or dumb. It means you do not know the facts.

The more "professional" the editor, the less automation they have. Professional editors do not want to rely on "canned" fixed effects that are common in consumer editors. They usually want to control every aspect of the editing process and the effects that are used. This does require more time in editing, whereas consumer editors will do all the work for you with "wizards", "templates", pre-made effects.

Maybe now, we can move on past our feelings and have a productive, informative "conversation".

 

 

Agree with what you say, there are very kind members, one of them is @jetdv , he helps me a lot, others help me too. I just recheck the meaning of the word ignorant and according to the dictionary its

lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated." he was told constantly that he was ignorant and stupid"

There was no reason to be offended by anyone who is a beginner with Vegas. Any of us at begin has our own difficulty. The reason why I m trying to learn Vegas is that software worth to be learned. Anyway as you say, let close this and talk about something more constructive about Vegas. Good thing is that each time when I learn something from members hear I like Vegas mire and more. Thanks and Regards

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formingus wrote on 11/9/2021, 12:07 PM

Someone not knowing how a particular software works IS ignorant on how to use the software. Look up the English definition of ignorant. Being ignorant of facts doesn't mean you are stupid or dumb. It means you do not know the facts.

That's exactly how my comment was meant when using the word "ignorance".

@formingus When you read my signature, you maybe can imagine how many Vegasusers I helped before, but I don't help users requesting help at your way. Good luck and happy editing.

I didn't judge at all, if you do help them they should be glad, and thankfully. No one has been born learned, me too. So, there was not necessary to offend me because I know very well that Vegas can do that and way more of that, but it was my leak of knowledge with Vegas, that's why I ask for help on the forum as everyone does. I think

Simply you can explain me instead of insulting me. Anyway, I don't want to argue anymore it's useless.

All the best 👍

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vkmast wrote on 11/9/2021, 12:59 PM

Recommended reading.

walter-i. wrote on 11/9/2021, 3:10 PM

We have an instructive proverb concerning communication:
"What you shout into the forest, that's how it echoes back".

EricLNZ wrote on 11/9/2021, 4:48 PM

I found Vegas very hard to use, what kind of developers are they?

@formingus Above is the title of this thread you created and as a native English speaker I found it rude and insulting to the hard working Vegas developers.

Anyway you have answers to enable you to solve your problem so this thread can now be closed.

To emphasise comments made please bear in mind that this is an international forum and many contributors, like you, do not have English as their native language. Even among native English speakers the use of words and phrases can differ with local usage.

Happy editing.