If your project is missing plugins, how to isolate those events?

lachlan145 wrote on 1/24/2019, 9:13 PM

If a Vegas project is missing effects/plugins that you no longer have access to, it will tell you which effects are missing upon opening the project. Beyond that though, I'd like to isolate which events or media actually used the missing plugins - because without them perhaps they won't look the way they're meant to. For a large project it's a massive effort going through everything again. Is there a way to see what plugins/effects are missing within a project?

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Musicvid wrote on 1/24/2019, 10:45 PM

Why are there effects and plugins missing? Which ones? This is pretty rare.

It seems like a good suggestion that would help very few people.

lachlan145 wrote on 1/24/2019, 11:06 PM

Rare for you maybe. All you need is to be stuck in the situation once and it becomes a useful feature.

Vegas seems to package different external plugins into every new version and, seemingly, unless you upgrade and pay for that provider's subscription/software it becomes unlicensed in the next version of Vegas. I've had this with I think RedGiant, NewBlueFX, possibly others I'm not sure off the top of my head. So if you choose to use one of their plugins, for example a white balance effect throughout your project, you are stuck without it when you open the project up in another version of Vegas down the track - maybe years later.

Obviously now that I'm aware of the nuisance factor, I'll stick to native Vegas effects as much as possible. And yes I could and probably will subscribe to a consistent effects provider moving forward.

3POINT wrote on 1/24/2019, 11:56 PM

Vegas gives you an error message and list the plugins your missing. Your VegasPro is still editable but ofcourse without the effect of the missed plugins.

Dexcon wrote on 1/25/2019, 1:03 AM

I completely agree with @lachlan145 and the reasoning behind the request.

Over the years, I have opened old projects and been faced with the dialogue box listing missing FX, but I have had no idea as to which specific events the missing FX were originally applied to. The missing FX are usually FX from an FX package that has since been uninstalled (e.g. the original free version of RedGiant Universe which, as far as I am aware, has not been available as a free version for many years and so couldn't be reinstalled after getting a new computer, or after an HDD failure); or an older release of an FX that was originally used but that FX isn't recognised by the current version (e.g. RedGiant's Magic Bullet Looks doesn't recognise Looks FX added by an earlier Looks version; also, iZotope's Ozone 6 did not recognise audio FX created by Ozone 5).

I've even had cases (some years ago to be fair) where the only info given in the missing FX dialogue box is a lengthy code, but the name of the FX itself was not given.

It would be a huge advantage for the specific events missing an FX to be identified along with the missing FX themselves so that the missing FX can be replaced with an alternative currently available FX.

As per @Musicvid, the situation isn't going to be all that common, but to those it does happen to, trying to get it fixed can be a time-consuming and frustrating experience.

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Musicvid wrote on 1/25/2019, 3:27 AM

Bundled effects are a premium, or promotional software. They give them to us to try out, and if we like them enough, maybe buy one next time we upgrade.

These guys write plugins with the idea of making money, not in lavishing us with gifts.

Yes I will lose my Boris promo when I upgrade or move the installation to a new machine (probably). I expected that going in, I paid a fair price for the software, and so I don't hold a grudge.

There's one sure way not to lose third-party effects, bundled or not.

TANSTAAFL

Grazie wrote on 1/25/2019, 3:32 AM

@Musicvid - Wahggg! TANSTAAFL I had to Google that. Never ever knew that.

Musicvid wrote on 1/25/2019, 3:56 AM

Understandable. Sayings with the crudism "ain't" probably aren't very popular in more literate cultures. Bloody well right, eh?

lachlan145 wrote on 1/25/2019, 3:56 AM

Bundled effects are a premium, or promotional software. They give them to us to try out, and if we like them enough, maybe buy one next time we upgrade.

These guys write plugins with the idea of making money, not in lavishing us with gifts.

Yes I will lose my Boris promo when I upgrade or move the installation to a new machine (probably). I expected that going in, I paid a fair price for the software, and so I don't hold a grudge.

There's one sure way not to lose third-party effects, bundled or not.

TANSTAAFL

Yeah, I agree, I pay for bucket loads of software, but that's beside the point. People change providers for effects, products become discontinued. I'm just asking if there's a way to help with the obvious issue.

vkmast wrote on 1/25/2019, 4:36 AM

@Grazie re the acronym, you mean you missed this thread with IanG's comments in 2006? I thought you joined in 2002 or thereabouts 😎. (I admit I missed pebcak, which also came up again today, by 2 months myself...)

Musicvid wrote on 1/25/2019, 4:49 AM

And in writing about Perl scripting with another user just now, I recalled an ancient one from CGI days. Anyone remember

TIMTOWTDI

?

Grazie wrote on 1/25/2019, 9:12 AM

@vkmast - And now for something..... longer...

ROTFLSHTIHMHOTWVHTTWGCATHSSAMMRIMRTIWDBIWSL

vkmast wrote on 1/25/2019, 9:34 AM

Thanks for all the pe(a)rls so far, now BTT, OK ? 😎

Former user wrote on 1/25/2019, 12:12 PM

It would be interesting to have a resource that would create a log with this information when saving the project.

@altarvic

Vegasaur Archive Project so far is what is closest to that.

https://vegasaur.com/archive-project