When I drag a 4K clip to the video track, it becomes way longer (why?)

fr0sty wrote on 8/21/2019, 8:38 AM

You need to upgrade your Vegas version to something more modern, that's an old bug that has been affecting 4k media, I used to have the same issue, having to manually trim away a bunch of extra video that wasn't even really there.

Being that 13 is 4 versions behind the current one, and it was made by a completely different company, there's no hope of that bug being patched out. You'll need to upgrade to fix it.

j-v wrote on 8/21/2019, 8:38 AM

Here no problem with the latest build 545, you first have to install maybe.
What does the file properties in Project Media say about the lenght and framerate?

AtOnYcK wrote on 8/21/2019, 8:51 AM

Thank you for the fast answers! Much appreciated. If it really is just an old bug then there's nothing I can do about it except upgrade or accept it. Bummer, but at least I know the cause.

The project media also has the 59.94 fps, but it shows the longer duration, of 43:48.

j-v wrote on 8/21/2019, 9:06 AM

but it shows the longer duration, of 43:48.

That's how Vegas is seeing your sourcefile.
I think, if the real time was shorter, that it is a fault in the info of that file when it was made.

Can you here show the MediaInfo of such a file?
Maybe it is possible to upload a small sourcefile to Dropbox or another site to share original files, so we can test it and maybe find a solution?

fr0sty wrote on 8/21/2019, 9:14 AM

Before I upgraded to V14, 4K files would always do that in 13 when I would drop 4k files from my gh4 into the project.

j-v wrote on 8/21/2019, 9:26 AM

Before I upgraded to V14, 4K files would always do that in 13 when I would drop 4k files from my gh4 into the project.

Than you must have a clue why my V13 has no problem with that file with the folowing MediaInfo.

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/21/2019, 9:34 AM

Yes I remember this bug which affected some MP4 footage from certain cameras. My Sony AX100 XAVC was OK but Panasonic were not. I think someone wrote a script to chop off the excess. It was eventually corrected with an update.

AtOnYcK wrote on 8/21/2019, 9:42 AM

Somewhere, Vegas messes it up. Here are the properties of the file when I look at it from a folder:

And Vegas turns it into something else:

But I see it's not a unknown issue. I could maybe find a script that chops off the excess as suggested. Would the data from MediaInfo be of extra help?

j-v wrote on 8/21/2019, 10:27 AM

Som Would the data from MediaInfo be of extra help?

Yess, that shows not how the different programs see it, but exactly what has been written in the file info that is needed to play it and work with it.

AtOnYcK wrote on 8/21/2019, 11:11 AM

Here you go. It says 9.something seconds. I don't know how we can fix it in Vegas.

j-v wrote on 8/21/2019, 11:44 AM

I think that it will be the best if you want to use those drone files without a workarond to upgrade the program like @fr0sty said before, because it must be a kind of bug that Vegas sees that file much longer as it is. Lucky me to have ( in the past) other type of 4K AVC files.

AtOnYcK wrote on 8/21/2019, 12:08 PM

So be it. Several years ago I was a poor student and acquired my Vegas version through... other means. I guess the time has come to finally upgrade it properly. I will.

I'd like to thank you all for your input! 🙂

fr0sty wrote on 8/21/2019, 1:13 PM

You'll need to buy a full version license, not an upgrade, but you'll get the upgrade pricing from there, and you'll be supporting the development of a program that has changed the NLE editing world for the better. The difference in performance between 13 and 17 is reason alone to buy it, the added features like motion flow slow motion, motion tracking, color grading, HDR, more format support, etc. are icing on the cake. It's well worth the price these days. Vegas Post also includes After Effects-like capabilities as well as a photoshop/lightroom style raw image editor.

vkmast wrote on 8/21/2019, 1:15 PM

Are the versions acquired by "...other means" eligible for the upgrade pricing? My understanding is that a full version license entitles you to the upgrade pricing for the next version you want. The above comment seems to agree on that.

See e.g. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/ and scroll down to "Ready for the next level". (from an inexpensive Movie Studio Platinum version to be on the safe side.)

AtOnYcK wrote on 8/22/2019, 3:02 AM

My apologies, I didn't word it properly. It's a personal upgrade, not of the program. I fully intent to buy a newer version now.

Musicvid wrote on 8/22/2019, 8:18 AM

If you compare the MediaInfo and Vegas readings for the source file, do they say the same thing?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

fr0sty wrote on 8/22/2019, 9:37 AM

It's admirable that, now that you have the money to do so, that you're willing to go legit. I came from a background of acquiring Vegas by "other means" when I was much younger as well, so welcome to dry land, matey! You'll find things work much better when you can reach out to support for help without being stranded on yer' ship out in the middle of the ocean, with nothing but fellow scallywags to ask for help. You'll also find the dev team is quite helpful, they listen to our requests and implement them as fast as possible, they're a small team doing big things, and they deserve our support.

Plus Vegas 17 really is a night and day difference from 13. Once you've picked up a copy, swing by here and we'll give some advice on how best to set it up so your hardware is utilizing it to its fullest potential (there's new settings you may have to enable for GPU accelerated decode, rendering, etc).