AVI files from new camera are blacked out

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/5/2018, 12:41 AM

Hello, I video camera that is cheap knock off of a gopro:

it is Naxa HD camera NDC-405

it makes AVI files. for some reason my Vegas Movie Studio can't import the files properly. The audio is imported fine but the video is blacked out.

VLC video player can show them fine.

I have Vegas Movie Studio 13 Build 943.

Please help! how can I import these AVI files?

thanks

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EricLNZ wrote on 5/5/2018, 2:17 AM

You need to find a TP codec that VMS can use to handle them.

Have a look at the Naxa website to see if they provide a codec for download.

Post the media info for one of your files so we can see what codec was used or upload a short file somewhere so others can download it and try it.

vkmast wrote on 5/5/2018, 2:35 AM

MediaInfo FAQ and the last 64-bit build (#955) of Sony Movie Studio Platinum 13.

Musicvid wrote on 5/5/2018, 9:45 AM

It's MJPEG.

You could convert with ffmpeg, or download Mainconcept M-Jpeg trial if it can be found.

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/5/2018, 4:16 PM

MediaInfo FAQ and the last 64-bit build (#955) of Sony Movie Studio Platinum 13.

I tried the 955 build and still no video.

I got this from the file properties:
Streams
  Video: 00:30:01.967, 30.000 fps, 1280x720x24, Sony Motion JPEG
  Audio: 00:30:01.776, 11,025 Hz, 16 Bit, Mono, Uncompressed
 

vkmast wrote on 5/5/2018, 6:37 PM

You may find MC M-Jpeg referred to above here.

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/5/2018, 6:53 PM

You may find MC M-Jpeg referred to above here.

thank you. for now, I found that Windows Movie Maker is able to import the AVI and render as mp4. i am guessing that Movie Studio will then be able to import the mp4. it is processing now.... we'll see how it goes.

one thing i'm wondering, i see that codec is an exe file. do i just run the exe and then Movie Studio will work with these files? or is there a process to getting Movie Studio to recognize the codec?

thanks again

Musicvid wrote on 5/5/2018, 7:32 PM

Yes, the codec installer is an executable. After installing, it shows up as an available codec. What is the question?

Looks like MC 2.3.4 is on a few download sites now.

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/5/2018, 10:35 PM

i found the MC 2.3.4 file elsewhere and ran the exe and i still can't see the video inside Movie Studio.... :(

EricLNZ wrote on 5/6/2018, 12:03 AM

i found the MC 2.3.4 file elsewhere and ran the exe and i still can't see the video inside Movie Studio.... :(


Try rebooting your pc if you haven't.

vkmast wrote on 5/6/2018, 2:35 AM

A sample file? See C-3 here.

EricLNZ wrote on 5/6/2018, 6:47 PM

Thanks Gary. Same problem with MS15 Platinum. The file shows a thumbnail in the Explorer window but in the media pane it doesn't and there's no video when dragged to the timeline. Audio is okay. I converted to mp4 with Handbrake and that worked okay.

I find VMS is "fussy" about files. Your file, like a m2ts file I had problems with recently, played perfectly in my usual MPCHC player and opened in another older video editor I have. Possibly VMS should be using another codec (it's using aviplug.dll) but I don't know of a way to tell it to do so.

vkmast wrote on 5/7/2018, 9:14 AM

The same experience as EricLNZ here with the codec installed in any of my MSP and VP versions 10 and later and HB which worked.

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/7/2018, 10:47 AM

so my experiment with converting these AVI to mp4 using Windows Movie Maker didn't work well. the resulting output had a large black frame as part of the video on all 4 sides even though the output dimension specs matched the input.

I am attempting to do it with a free program now called Any Video Converter:

http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/

the first file output seems pretty good. no black frame. I will see how it imports into my Movie Studio 13 and report back.

in the meantime if anyone can find a codec or dll file that will enable Movie Studio to import these files directly, or if you have any other ideas, please let me know.

thanks!

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/7/2018, 11:27 AM

I sent in a help request to Magix and this is their response:

"AVI is basically a file shell that may contain one video stream and one audio stream.  In order to be able to open an AVI, the software needs to support the AVI format (which it does) -AND- the format of the video and audio streams within the AVI shell also need to be supported formats of the software.  If a user attempts to open an AVI that contains an unsupported video stream, they may only see the audio import to the timeline without the video.  There are a few reasons why this might occur.  If there are licensing issues with a certain format of video or audio stream, then we are not able to support that format. DIVIX is an example of this.   It is also possible that the format of one of the streams is something the software can support, but the codec was not included in the original software installation.  If you download a codec that is able to process the file, you will likely be able to open and edit the media on the Vegas timeline.  "

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/7/2018, 4:51 PM

so my experiment with converting these AVI to mp4 using Windows Movie Maker didn't work well. the resulting output had a large black frame as part of the video on all 4 sides even though the output dimension specs matched the input.

I am attempting to do it with a free program now called Any Video Converter:

http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/

the first file output seems pretty good. no black frame. I will see how it imports into my Movie Studio 13 and report back.

in the meantime if anyone can find a codec or dll file that will enable Movie Studio to import these files directly, or if you have any other ideas, please let me know.

thanks!

UGH. turns out the output form Any Video Converter is messed up -- the audio and video are out of sync. so I am back to square 1 an with no solution.

Vliegvisser wrote on 5/7/2018, 5:32 PM

Stop messing around with all kind of solutions.
Download the right to use codec of your sourcefile to use that file in Vegas MS or put that file through the high standard and free converter Handbrake to make it a .mp4 that plays fine and will be rendered to all available formats with VMS 15 as you can see here:

 

gary-beckwith wrote on 5/7/2018, 6:26 PM

Stop messing around with all kind of solutions.
Download the right to use codec of your sourcefile to use that file in Vegas MS or put that file through the high standard and free converter Handbrake to make it a .mp4 that plays fine and will be rendered to all available formats with VMS 15 as you can see here:

 

if i knew where to obtain the codec I need, I would gladly download it.

i guess i will try handbrake. thanks

Musicvid wrote on 5/7/2018, 8:51 PM

Yes, if Mainconcept is not the solution, the next best user-friendly, but lossy choice is Handbrake.

Former user wrote on 5/7/2018, 9:21 PM

I have not tried these and there is a cost associated.

http://www.morgan-multimedia.com/morgan/php/products.php?sProductId=4&sProductSub=downloads

EricLNZ wrote on 5/7/2018, 9:47 PM

I have not tried these and there is a cost associated.

http://www.morgan-multimedia.com/morgan/php/products.php?sProductId=4&sProductSub=downloads

It does provide a trial so Gary could give it a go to see if it works before committing to a purchase.

It's a pity VMS cannot handle these files when it seems other consumer editors can. Perhaps it's because other editors are designed ground up with consumers in mind whereas VMS is a cut down version of a pro editor and it's not expected pros would be using such files. At least that's my theory but I'm always open to correction.

Musicvid wrote on 5/8/2018, 10:41 AM

Eric, it's not that way at all. Earlier intraframe vfw codecs are simply going the way of the dodo, same as quartz/mci did years back.

FayFen wrote on 5/9/2018, 11:42 PM

I will recommend this https://www.xmedia-recode.de/en/index.html freeware for all video conversions needs.

I use the portable version.