Choppy and laggy preview window

D_Esteban wrote on 7/31/2020, 6:12 PM

Hey everyone! I'm having some trouble on Sony Vegas Pro 17

It's difficult for me to edit because the preview is constantly stuttering, sometimes even on simple clips with no layering besides audio. It's really hard to edit transitions and FX if I can't even play a simple clip without anything done to it. I'm not particularly tech savvy, and I know that this issue has been brought up hundreds of times by now, but I cannot find any solutions that have worked for me.

It might be worth noting that most of these clips came from capturing footage on OBS Studio, but footage from my camcorder only seems to stutter once I start layering over it.

 

What I've tried based on scouring the internet:

-Reducing the preview setting. I've gone to even the lowest setting (draft auto), still stuttering really badly

-reducing dynamic RAM preview max to 0. Also tried halving it and other values, as per others' suggestions that I found

-turned GPU acceleration of video processing off

-unchecking "optimize GPU display performance"

-unchecking "recompress edited frames"

-set "enable openCL/GL Interop" to FALSE

-set "enable multi stream render" to TRUE

-reduced project frame rate from 59 NTSC to 29 NTSC

-setting Sony Vegas priority to "High" from the task manager

 

Here's my computer specs:

Intel i5 6500 3.20GHz

16 GB of RAM

NVIDIA Gefore GTX 1070

Windows 10 Home 64 bit

 

Here's mediainfo from an OBS capture, I'll list the info from a camera video after. I use a Canon Vixia HF R800 HD.

General
Complete name                            : E:\video projects\AVATAR last airbender project\Episodes\S1 ep 1 the boy in the iceberg.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 8.11 GiB
Duration                                 : 23 min 0 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 50.5 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf57.66.102

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 23 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 50.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.402
Stream size                              : 8.04 GiB (99%)
Color range                              : Limited
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.470 System B/G
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 23 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 163 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 26.9 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Track1
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 23 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 163 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 26.9 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Track2
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 23 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 96.0 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 160 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 16.0 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Track3
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1

 

Onto the camera info


 

General
Complete name                            : E:\2020-02\MVI_0268.MP4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/avc1/CAEP)
File size                                : 35.9 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 35.4 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-03 23:20:50
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-03 23:20:50

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=30
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Bit rate                                 : 35.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.282
Stream size                              : 35.5 MiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-03 23:20:50
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-03 23:20:50
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 s 491 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 264 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-03 23:20:50
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-03 23:20:50

Here's some file properties from an OBS capture. Again, camera info after.

General
  Name: S1 ep 1 the boy in the iceberg.mp4
  Folder: E:\video projects\AVATAR last airbender project\Episodes
  Type: AVC
  Size: 8.50 GB (8,708,044,963 bytes)
  Created: Thursday, July 30, 2020, 8:22:40 PM
  Modified: Thursday, July 30, 2020, 8:45:42 PM
  Accessed: Friday, July 31, 2020, 10:51:26 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:23:00.833, 60.000 fps progressive, 1920x1080x32, AVC
  Audio 1: 00:23:00.773, 44,100 Hz, Stereo, AAC
  Audio 2: 00:23:00.773, 44,100 Hz, Stereo, AAC
  Audio 3: 00:23:00.773, 44,100 Hz, Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 7

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

File properties from camera video

General
  Name: MVI_0289 da udda 1.MP4
  Folder: E:\video projects\AVATAR last airbender project\2020-07
  Type: AVC
  Size: 102.45 MB (104,911,364 bytes)
  Created: Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 4:16:02 PM
  Modified: Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 4:16:02 PM
  Accessed: Friday, July 31, 2020, 11:07:33 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:24.024, 59.940 fps progressive, 1920x1080x32, AVC
  Audio: 00:00:23.977, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 6

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

Thanks to anyone who can offer any advice! I used to have this issue on Vegas 14 also. I'd really like to figure this out so i can edit smoothly. I'm still searching around for solutions on other posts and on Youtube, it's just that so far nobody's solutions have worked for me personally. I like Sony Vegas overall, but I find it harder to edit without being able to preview my work properly.

 

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 7/31/2020, 8:19 PM

And you haven't told us anything about your source, either camera or OBS.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

D_Esteban wrote on 8/1/2020, 1:22 AM

Thanks for the link! Sorry about that, I wasn't aware that I should post that! I edited all that info into the original post. Hope I did it correctly.

vkmast wrote on 8/1/2020, 2:08 AM

FYI a side note, not Sony Vegas any more.

Musicvid wrote on 8/1/2020, 2:52 AM

Thank you for the file properties. This may give you an improvement:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/avc-xavc-s-issues-in-vp15-try-disabling-so4compoundplug-dll--108345/

That said, your system is a bit on the light side, but should work with those file properties. You can make proxies if not.

 

D_Esteban wrote on 8/2/2020, 1:20 PM

FYI a side note, not Sony Vegas any more.

Thanks! I'll keep this in mind for the future.

D_Esteban wrote on 8/2/2020, 1:21 PM

Thank you for the file properties. This may give you an improvement:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/avc-xavc-s-issues-in-vp15-try-disabling-so4compoundplug-dll--108345/

That said, your system is a bit on the light side, but should work with those file properties. You can make proxies if not.

 

That actually helped! Thanks a lot!

Musicvid wrote on 8/2/2020, 1:54 PM

You're welcome.