Computer Beeping during Vegas Pro 18 Render

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 1:58 PM

Okay Vegas Gurus. THIS is a new one for me with all the versions i have used of Vegas over the years.

I have a family video captured on a Canon Vixia HF10. I have attached screen captures of the media settings as well as the Vegas Render setting i chose. When i render this and get past the intro title within seconds i get a VERY long beep from my new computer. This system is a beast of a system. Using the latest technology (NVME hard drives, Mega fast CPU with a cooler that takes up much of the case and the latest generation of MB)

I know this beeping sound cant be good. So i shut down the render each time. I can and have rendered over 20 VHS movies in the past two weeks without issue or beeping.

Video link here:

Thoughts?

 

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Musicvid wrote on 1/22/2022, 2:32 PM

Remove and reseat your RAM. This is the most common reason in my experience. Make sure there is a stick inserted in the first slot (0 or 1), and don't mix RAM with other brands; iow, don't add to your stock RAM, replace it instead.

Former user wrote on 1/22/2022, 2:34 PM

@Denicio Hi, just curious, when you say 'This system is a beast of a system', can you describe it better, CPU, GPU etc.. thanks.

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 2:39 PM

Remove and reseat your RAM. This is the most common reason in my experience. Make sure there is a stick inserted in the first slot (0 or 1), and don't mix RAM with other brands; iow, don't add to your stock RAM, replace it instead.

Hmmm...... interesting thoughts. It is a newly built powerhouse PC.. Doing DAW stuff with it all the time with stupidly low latency recordings and mixing with no issues. The video in question was started in Vegas 12 and have not touched it in years. For Grins and Giggles i have reopened the project in V12 and its rendering fine now. So far i am 5 minutes into this and ZERO beeping. Its got 20 minutes to go.

Not sure if its V18 not liking my system or what. I must admit, my time with V18 has been a rocky one.

I am rendering right now with the V12 "Internet HD 1080p" render setting and no beeps. In V18 it took less than a minute of rendering for it to start beeping.

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 2:40 PM

@Denicio Hi, just curious, when you say 'This system is a beast of a system', can you describe it better, CPU, GPU etc.. thanks.

I knew someone would ask :-) I am the type of guy who gets a system spec'd. I build it and then forget all about what i got.

I'll have to log into the office to get a list of what i bought. Stay tuned.

Former user wrote on 1/22/2022, 2:44 PM

@Denicio 😂😂👍👍 Is it not as simple as looking at Device Manager 🤔😂

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 2:54 PM

@Denicio Hi, just curious, when you say 'This system is a beast of a system', can you describe it better, CPU, GPU etc.. thanks.

 

Here is my system at a glance:

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 video card (card from previous system that still works fine)

ASUS Prime X570-Pro Ryzen 3 AM4 with PCIe Gen4, Dual M.2, HDMI, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 ATX Motherboard

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - Ryzen 9 5000 Series Vermeer (Zen 3) 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4 105W Desktop Processor - 100-100000061WOF

be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler with Silent Wings, 200W TDP, High Performance - Silent Wings 135mm PWM LGA 1700 Compatible

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Memory Kit Model CMK32GX4M2A2400C14

(1 Ea) Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe Gen 4 Gaming M.2 Internal Solid State Hard Drive Memory Card, Maximum Speed, Thermal Control, MZ-V8P1T0B **For my main Audio Drive

(1 ea) Samsung 980 PRO 500GB PCIe NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD M.2 (MZ-V8P500B) **For my OS

And 3 or so SSD hard drives for Video, VSTI and backup.

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 3:00 PM

**UPDATE**

Render of exact same video in Vegas 12 took 27 minutes and resulted in no beeps or farts from my computer.

What is up with V18??

Musicvid wrote on 1/22/2022, 3:02 PM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 video card (card from previous system that still works fine)

That's the weakest link. 1650 or 1660 is suggested by many.

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 3:05 PM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 video card (card from previous system that still works fine)

That's the weakest link. 1650 or 1660 is suggested by many.

Its rendered Vegas videos for me for several years now. Why would it not get along with V18 when i just successfully rendered the same video in V12?

I am so confused.

I am not gonna spend money on a new card just so V18 will play nice with it. My computer's main goal in life (besides world domination via Skynet) is for my DAW and Audio recording. The video card has worked flawless in this application on two different builds.

So you are saying that V18 and my Video card are just incompatible?

vkmast wrote on 1/22/2022, 3:12 PM

From VEGAS Pro 18 Release Notes, System Requirements: "NVIDIA, NVIDIA® GeForce GTX or RTX 9XX series or higher with 4GB".

Denicio wrote on 1/22/2022, 3:55 PM

From VEGAS Pro 18 Release Notes, System Requirements: "NVIDIA, NVIDIA® GeForce GTX or RTX 9XX series or higher with 4GB".

 

Welp, then it looks like i will be sticking with V12 then for my video needs. I'm not doing any real video production. Just capturing, editing and rendering out home video from VHS, Hi 8 to Digital captures. So far, V12 does a fine job.

Former user wrote on 1/22/2022, 4:35 PM

@Denicio Unless i'm missing something in my search, your graphics card is 1GB 😮 but your CPU is 12core, sorry but that is def the lowest card i've seen for a long long time, a lot of software is now focusing on using the graphics card for doing the work.

Changing that graphics card might not fix the squeak but as Musicvid says that's a weak link, you've got a good CPU it deserves a good GPU so is really needing an upgrade

Former user wrote on 1/22/2022, 7:44 PM

@Denicio Hi, just thought i'd share this, Ram Memory - I have 5 tabs in Google open which takes a bit, but when rendering, playing or at idle it doesn't change much, so your Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) should be fine.

this is my pc at idle, a few windows open, nothing playing the memory is 13%

While playing - the CPU at the top is doing very little, the GPU is doing the work, the memory has only gone up to 14%

& when rendering the CPU is doing some work but the majority is done by the GPU, the memory has again only gone up to 15%

I hope this gives a very rough idea how important a half decent GPU is. 👍

PS I don't know if this is relatable to VP12 🤷‍♂️

Denicio wrote on 1/24/2022, 8:55 AM

@Denicio Hi, just thought i'd share this, Ram Memory - I have 5 tabs in Google open which takes a bit, but when rendering, playing or at idle it doesn't change much, so your Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) should be fine.

this is my pc at idle, a few windows open, nothing playing the memory is 13%

While playing - the CPU at the top is doing very little, the GPU is doing the work, the memory has only gone up to 14%

& when rendering the CPU is doing some work but the majority is done by the GPU, the memory has again only gone up to 15%

I hope this gives a very rough idea how important a half decent GPU is. 👍

PS I don't know if this is relatable to VP12 🤷‍♂️

Wow, thanks for this detailed and thoughtful reply. It does give me a LOT to think about. Here is my dilemma. I am doing no real video stuff anymore. All i need is a working editor that will help me archive my 100+ family videos. If i were looking to do more serious video stuff i would not bat an eye at buying a new video card. I cant see spending 200-300 bux on a video card JUST so i can get Vegas 18 working. Right now i pretty much have a working solution by using V12. Its stable, its got a work flow i am familiar with. Am i wrong?

Former user wrote on 1/24/2022, 9:56 AM

@Denicio 👍 Hi, I'm really not up with the details but you've got M.2 drives, you've a 12 core CPU & 32GB RAM, a more modern GPU would be like buying a decent new computer, a GTX 1650 here (England) can be bought for £250, i think that's a small price to pay for what you get, that will bring your pc up to the 21 century, you'll be able to use V18 or V19, it'll improve your pc a lot, from working at 10% up to 80-90%, i don't know how different V12 is to V18 but of course, like you say it works as it now, why fix what ain't broke,

I don't understand why whoever put it together put that card in? GTX 650? have you got that right, can you share a pic of Preferences showing the GPU or a pic of Taskmanager - GPU like i showed above, that pc you've got is close to the 'beast of a system', only prob is your beast has a gammy leg 😂 ?

 

Denicio wrote on 1/24/2022, 10:17 AM

@Denicio 👍 Hi, I'm really not up with the details but you've got M.2 drives, you've a 12 core CPU & 32GB RAM, a more modern GPU would be like buying a decent new computer, a GTX 1650 here (England) can be bought for £250, i think that's a small price to pay for what you get, that will bring your pc up to the 21 century, you'll be able to use V18 or V19, it'll improve your pc a lot, from working at 10% up to 80-90%, i don't know how different V12 is to V18 but of course, like you say it works as it now, why fix what ain't broke,

I don't understand why whoever put it together put that card in? GTX 650? have you got that right, can you share a pic of Preferences showing the GPU or a pic of Taskmanager - GPU like i showed above, that pc you've got is close to the 'beast of a system', only prob is your beast has a gammy leg 😂 ?

 

 

I have a good pal who lives in Liverpool (England) that helps me spec out my workstations mainly for Audio production. He never once saw the video card as an issue as it relates to audio recording. So, i've just kept this 650 as its just worked and been reliable (and its paid for). It seems to only have reared its head during these Vegas renders in V18. Yeah, its not super expensive to fix this. And i am not totally against doing it. Just want to make sure i dont add something that brings MORE heat to my system and requires more fans. Remember, this system is built for Audio and it sets next to me, quietly, in my recording studio. I do realize i do have a cutting edge system with an older video card.

misohoza wrote on 1/24/2022, 10:26 AM

@Former user

When troubleshooting audio PC problems graphics cards and WiFi adapters are always the main culprits.

For low latency audio work nvidia drivers can often cause problems. I understand why @Denicio is a bit reluctant to experiment with his system if it works right now.

Former user wrote on 1/24/2022, 10:37 AM

@Denicio Fair enough, I'm from the right side of the Pennines Leeds so not far away, I built a studio for a musician & understand the noise issue, the desk that housed his pc had to be lined with sound insulation but still allow ventilation, my pc sits next to me on the desk, it has 3 fans in the CPU cooler at the top of the case & another 3 in the case, the GPU has 2 or 3 fans & the pcie raid card has a little 1 too, i can hear it, it's pretty quiet, but my microphone pics up the hum if it's too close, Maybe one day & maybe the prices will drop or you'll find a good deal 👍👍

 

Denicio wrote on 1/24/2022, 10:44 AM

@Denicio Fair enough, I'm from the right side of the Pennines Leeds so not far away, I built a studio for a musician & understand the noise issue, the desk that housed his pc had to be lined with sound insulation but still allow ventilation, my pc sits next to me on the desk, it has 3 fans in the CPU cooler at the top of the case & another 3 in the case, the GPU has 2 or 3 fans & the pcie raid card has a little 1 too, i can hear it, it's pretty quiet, but my microphone pics up the hum if it's too close, Maybe one day & maybe the prices will drop or you'll find a good deal 👍👍

 

 

Well, i'd consider buying now if i knew the new card was as quiet as what i have now, if not more quiet. It would also have to play nice with my high end audio converters (RME).

Considering that V12 works and does what i need it to do i may just hang tight till i am FORCED to upgrade. Make sense?

Denicio wrote on 1/24/2022, 10:53 AM

@Denicio Fair enough, I'm from the right side of the Pennines Leeds so not far away, I built a studio for a musician & understand the noise issue, the desk that housed his pc had to be lined with sound insulation but still allow ventilation, my pc sits next to me on the desk, it has 3 fans in the CPU cooler at the top of the case & another 3 in the case, the GPU has 2 or 3 fans & the pcie raid card has a little 1 too, i can hear it, it's pretty quiet, but my microphone pics up the hum if it's too close, Maybe one day & maybe the prices will drop or you'll find a good deal 👍👍

 

 

Oh, two of my best pals live in the Liverpool 'area'. One in Frodsham and the other in Runcorn. Visited twice and absolutely fell in love with the area. One of my trips i was treated to a Bed & Breakfast in the Lake District (heaven on earth). There i got to live out my 'Supertramp' bucket list item. I had kippers for breakfast.

 

"Could we have kippers for breakfast, mummy dear, mummy dear
They got to have 'em in Texas, 'cause everyone's a millionaire
I'm a winner, I'm a sinner, do you want my autograph
I'm a loser, what a joker, I'm playing my jokes upon you
But there's nothin' better to do"

 

 

Tim L wrote on 1/24/2022, 7:52 PM

One fundamental, nagging question is what process is generating the beeps?  It seems to be coming from the motherboard piezo speaker, not the desktop speakers, so it feels like a BIOS or system issue.  Maybe an overheating alarm?  Some other system alarm? Memory faults?

Is this a motherboard that has a small two or three digit display to signal faults?  (Maybe only old ones did that.)

Even if running on a below-spec video card, what process or driver or system monitor would signal a problem via the motherboard beeper?  (And I pose all of these as questions because I don't have any idea myself...)

RogerS wrote on 1/24/2022, 8:04 PM

That is a good question. Maybe keep an eye on temps and faults with HWINFO64 or similar tool.

Is it hitting power or other limits?

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Denicio wrote on 1/25/2022, 8:57 AM

That is a good question. Maybe keep an eye on temps and faults with HWINFO64 or similar tool.

Is it hitting power or other limits?

Indeed all great questions. BUT...once i ran the exact same render on V12 with Zero issues i knew the problem was related to V18 for what ever reason. As others have pointed out here, my video card is not compatible with V18.

I've decided V12 'aint broke' for my needs so its where i will stay. Its solid, it works, it does not send my computer screaming and it gets the job done.

Thanks all for contributing to this post.

Former user wrote on 1/25/2022, 9:07 AM

@Denicio 

Oh, two of my best pals live in the Liverpool 'area'. One in Frodsham and the other in Runcorn. Visited twice and absolutely fell in love with the area. One of my trips i was treated to a Bed & Breakfast in the Lake District (heaven on earth). There i got to live out my 'Supertramp' bucket list item. I had kippers for breakfast.

Hi, got to ask, where in the world do you live?