Well, first thought, Mine naturally, would be you should "Undo" the overclock on your system, as video editing is one of the more "extreme" processes a computer needs to undertake, and as a previous IT guy (hardware related issues), sounds like you got something over-heating or incorrectly set on your system.

Second, as was mentioned by @Musicvid is to install the Studio Drivers, foregoing those "gamer" drivers; current Studio is 442.19, which I am running for my Founder's Edition RTX 2070, and also my GTX 1080.

Oh, and exactly which system are you having the issue(s) with? The post noted above concerning this had you using a i7-8700K and Vega 64. Now, you have an i7-6950x with a 1080Ti. Or, is it both systems? I actually have an i7-6800K cooled by a beQuiet Dark Rock 4 Air Cooler with the aforementioned GTX 1080, only running MAGIX Vegas Movie Studio 16, and have had no issues from either of my 2 GoPro Hero Black 7's & Hero 6 Black (with 4K 60p HEVC), Hero 5 Black , Sony FDR AX-53 & AX-33 (XAVC-S 4K 29.970p @100 Mbps) and either prior Transcoding to Cineform or Grass Valley (either using Movie Studio or DaVinci Resolve 16), or using the included proxies within Movie Studio or MAGIX Vegas Pro 17 (421) or versions 14/15 Suites prior. And even on either of my two ThreadRipper systems (1950x & 2920x), I still transcode any of the aforementioned cameras' footage, as since my eyes are a bit old these days, Proxies are tough to view. My main rig is the one listed in signature. And all three of my systems are running Windows 10 Pro (1909), with the OS and Applications on a PCI-e drive, with source footage on separate PCI-e SSD's (except the i7-6800K - Samsung 850 EVO SATA III), including a separate drive for any Pre-Renders/Scratch as set in the Preferences or Project Properties. Oh, lets not forget a drive dedicated for Renders as well. The only camera footage I don't have to mess with now is from my Canon 80D, and that I pretty much shoot using the ALL-I .mov container, which would be either 1080p24 or 1080p30, with the bit rate around 90Mbps.

Proxies or Transcoding is your friend!

First, download and install the latest Studio drivers for your graphics.

If that doesn't work entirely, run this diagnostic:

• Disable "Gpu acceleration of video processing" in preferences.

Another approach is to start here:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

But you already know that, per your previous post:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/very-choppy-video-preview-terrible-performance-on-beast-of-a-pc--118507/

Are you still trying to load GoPro 4k 60p HEVC on your timeline without benefit of proxies? If so, best of luck, you are pretty much on your own.

Good morning.

Yes GPU acceleration is disabled in the preferences.

It even crashes when I import a screen capture from OBS which isnt 4K HEVC. But yes the larger recorded files I've recorded from the gopro are 4K60 HEVC files, usually just under 4gb per file as the footage I record is usually around 20 minutes so the gopro breaks up into several 4gb files.

What is different with the studio driver compared to the gaming driver? Is the studio driver good enough to game on as I'm using the same rig to do both as it's the more powerful.

Thanks again

Well, first thought, Mine naturally, would be you should "Undo" the overclock on your system, as video editing is one of the more "extreme" processes a computer needs to undertake, and as a previous IT guy (hardware related issues), sounds like you got something over-heating or incorrectly set on your system.

Second, as was mentioned by @Musicvid is to install the Studio Drivers, foregoing those "gamer" drivers; current Studio is 442.19, which I am running for my Founder's Edition RTX 2070, and also my GTX 1080.

Oh, and exactly which system are you having the issue(s) with? The post noted above concerning this had you using a i7-8700K and Vega 64. Now, you have an i7-6950x with a 1080Ti. Or, is it both systems? I actually have an i7-6800K cooled by a beQuiet Dark Rock 4 Air Cooler with the aforementioned GTX 1080, only running MAGIX Vegas Movie Studio 16, and have had no issues from either of my 2 GoPro Hero Black 7's & Hero 6 Black (with 4K 60p HEVC), Hero 5 Black , Sony FDR AX-53 & AX-33 (XAVC-S 4K 29.970p @100 Mbps) and either prior Transcoding to Cineform or Grass Valley (either using Movie Studio or DaVinci Resolve 16), or using the included proxies within Movie Studio or MAGIX Vegas Pro 17 (421) or versions 14/15 Suites prior. And even on either of my two ThreadRipper systems (1950x & 2920x), I still transcode any of the aforementioned cameras' footage, as since my eyes are a bit old these days, Proxies are tough to view. My main rig is the one listed in signature. And all three of my systems are running Windows 10 Pro (1909), with the OS and Applications on a PCI-e drive, with source footage on separate PCI-e SSD's (except the i7-6800K - Samsung 850 EVO SATA III), including a separate drive for any Pre-Renders/Scratch as set in the Preferences or Project Properties. Oh, lets not forget a drive dedicated for Renders as well. The only camera footage I don't have to mess with now is from my Canon 80D, and that I pretty much shoot using the ALL-I .mov container, which would be either 1080p24 or 1080p30, with the bit rate around 90Mbps.

Proxies or Transcoding is your friend!

Hi there, thanks for taking the time to reply.

I have 2 systems. Because I was getting issues on the 8700k, Vega64 system I decided disable my Sony Vegas from that system and move to my other system to see if things improve (6950x, 1070ti). I can assure you its not a heat problem, everything is cooled by water, I've got the system in a custom water loop, temps on GPU never higher than 40c and on CPU never higher than 65 all under extreme load. The system has been benchmarked to the extreme, prime95 for 24h, its 100% stable in every area apart from running Sony Vegas. The CPU will do 4.5ghz but I dial that back to a reasonable 24/7 speed and the same for the GPU.

I've several m.2 drives and other SSDs in the system that I use as recording drives, storage drives, games drives etc but thought I should only mention what the main C: drive was.

Everyone talks about proxies, but like i was saying to the guy above, my Sony Vegas even crashes when i import a screen capture from OBS of desktop, even a small 30second clip which isnt 4k60 HEVC obviously, and that being the only clip I've tried importing in the project window.

So proxies, what exactly is that? And are the studio drivers ok to game with?

Do you really have "Sony" Vegas Pro 17. If so, where did you get it from?

Ive been posting this for literally 4 months now; dont know why it hasent been added to the "known issues" thread because everyone else just blames something else...

Vegas 17 has a CONFIRMED BUG with HEVC media that the team is still working on. (they are able to reproduce the crash with a project file I sent to the team)

I to get all the system crashes and blank monitor issues you describe if I use anything GPU related and have tried all the studio drivers for the past 6 months.

I use Vegas 16 with all GPU features OFF and render proxies with 0 issues. The codebase of 17 is a MESS.

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Do you really have "Sony" Vegas Pro 17. If so, where did you get it from?

Yes I do, I'm subscribed to Vegas Pro 365 since August 2019.

Ive been posting this for literally 4 months now; dont know why it hasent been added to the "known issues" thread because everyone else just blames something else...

Vegas 17 has a CONFIRMED BUG with HEVC media that the team is still working on. (they are able to reproduce the crash with a project file I sent to the team)

I to get all the system crashes and blank monitor issues you describe if I use anything GPU related and have tried all the studio drivers for the past 6 months.

I use Vegas 16 with all GPU features OFF and render proxies with 0 issues. The codebase of 17 is a MESS.

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Hey there. Thank you very much, that is excellent information. I'll be monitoring this post and your post so closely now. Can we keep in touch on this?

If there is anyway for you to downgrade to 16. I recommend that. 0 issues. For me on 16.

Actually Sony/SCS is not involved since versions 14. They all come from MAGIX where you got your VEGAS Pro 365 subscription from as well.

If there is anyway for you to downgrade to 16. I recommend that. 0 issues. For me on 16.

I'm not sure, I'm on the Sony Vegas 365 program. So you use Vegas 16 and have "GPU acceleration of video processing" enabled in V16? This is what seems to cause most of my issues. When it's off on my system I get a few crashes an hour, but when I turn it to optimal - nvidia corporation geforce gtx 1080ti then the whole system goes berserk.

1. Is settings you need to render color perfect (no contrast changes) if you render out in XAVC-S Like me.

2. My settings in Vegas 16 that I have absolutely 0 crashes on. Same card as you. 16GB ram.

If you CANT downgrade change you File-IO setting on vegas 17 to use INTEL QSV. That will stop your monitors from blacking out. As for GPU acceleration of video processing you can leave that checked! That just helps preview fps. But not vegas from crashing when using. large amounts of hevc files.

Anxiously awaiting the patch fix for vegas 17.

1. Is settings you need to render color perfect (no contrast changes) if you render out in XAVC-S Like me.

2. My settings in Vegas 16 that I have absolutely 0 crashes on.

 

OK thanks for that. I'll try these settings in my Vegas17. In my preferences, Dynamic RAM preview is set to 200 (default) and max number of rendering threads to 32 (default). Is it better to mirror yours?

Also, I'm already using the Intel QSV decoder.

Amd thank you, you have been a wonderful help.

Change your file-io to Intel QSV that will stop your monitors/display drivers from crashing.

Change your file-io to Intel QSV that will stop your monitors/display drivers from crashing.

It's already set to Intel QSV, still causes screens to go black, nvidia driver and NVCP stops working when Vegas17 crashes. Absolute nightmare this.

Im trying to figure out how I can trial Vegas 16 from on the Magix website for 30 days. I just want to see If I still get this issue before purchasing another version. Vegas 17 already cost me just over £100 for the year back in August.

Unlikely as usually only the current version is available for trial.

Maybe open a support ticket, and ask them for V16 as a "stop gap" until 17 improves?

 

What is different with the studio driver compared to the gaming driver? Is the studio driver good enough to game on as I'm using the same rig to do both as it's the more powerful

Gaming is fine with the studio driver. I game myself with a studio driver. As there is not much info about differences, I assume new studio drivers are code based on the latest gamedrivers, but tested longer, and tested extra on NLE's. In practice they lag the game drivers timewise a bit, but they do contain game bug fixes if you care to read the release notes. Of course sometimes games require a hot fix, due to DLC's or windows updates, in those case it is best to use the latest game ready drivers (or the even a pre-official hot fix driver release).

It would not be beyond the possibility in some rare cases that a game hot fix is will also solve a NLE issue. So experiment with both the latest game ready drivers, hot fixes and studio drivers if experience an issue with NLE.

Thank you guys. I'll raise a support ticket and see what can be done. Maybe they can change my key to a Vegas16 key for the rest of the year until August when my year is up. Or just try and get a refund for the time I wont be using Vegas17 and put it towards Vegas16 from Amazon or something.

I really need to trial Vegas16 for 30 days ideally.

See if you can get the trial working by downloading here, section 6.