Vegas Pro 8 odd behavior in Windows 7 64-bit

craftech wrote on 9/15/2017, 8:10 PM

Sorry I haven't been around in so long. Miss the community.

Been using Vegas Pro 8.0c in XP Po for a long time. Recently installed it on a Windows 7 Professional computer 64-bit. It installed fine, but I am getting odd lines between events on the timeline. If I take the same files in my Windows XP Pro installation they appear normal. It doesn't matter whether I enable automatic crossfades or not. These little "hooks" still appear between events. Here is a screenshot.

 

Anyone seen this?

 

Thanks,

 

John

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set wrote on 9/16/2017, 3:11 AM

 

And do these 'hooks' affecting any content ? (or try small render region area between these events)

 

(*btw, rather than posting the link to screenshot or image hosting service site, you can post the image directly in this site.)

JJKizak wrote on 9/16/2017, 5:24 AM

Those are the blue snaps that tell you you have overlapped the cut. (Speculation)

JJK

craftech wrote on 9/16/2017, 8:58 AM

Those are the blue snaps that tell you you have overlapped the cut. (Speculation)

JJK


If I put a single event on the timeline all by itself, the little blue hooks STILL appear at the end of it.

craftech wrote on 9/16/2017, 9:04 AM

 

And do these 'hooks' affecting any content ? (or try small render region area between these events)

 

(*btw, rather than posting the link to screenshot or image hosting service site, you can post the image directly in this site.)


Thanks. Posted image direct. There is a slight delay at the end of each clip.

Same clips in Windows XP installation do not have the problem. No hooks. Normal transition from one to the other. No delay.

craftech wrote on 9/16/2017, 8:15 PM

So I did a little research (some old posts are missing) and it seems that there were a few problems with Vegas Pro 8 and Windows 7 (64-bit).

1. Some 32-bit plugins didn't work

2. There were some (unspecified) problems with the audio.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Furthermore, I just checked and the software is installed in the Program Files (x86) folder. So since it is a 32-bit version it is in the correct folder.

craftech wrote on 9/16/2017, 9:31 PM

Just tried something else. I chose both the Automatic Crossfades and Quickfade Audio Edits options and NEITHER of them showed up between the clips on the timeline when I dragged four clips to the timeline from the media bin.

Also, I stretched out the timeline and the video seems to be off by one frame. Look at this screenshot. The cursor is on the previous event's last frame yet the preview window shows the next event's first frame.

 

OldSmoke wrote on 9/16/2017, 10:05 PM

Is snapping enabled.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

craftech wrote on 9/17/2017, 9:47 AM

Snapping is enabled. Thanks. As I said, even if I put a single clip on the timeline, the end of the clip looks abnormal (little hooks).

OldSmoke wrote on 9/17/2017, 11:01 AM

How about "Quantize to Frames"?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

craftech wrote on 9/17/2017, 11:45 AM

How about "Quantize to Frames"?


Yes, that is enabled. I went back to my Windows XP Pro installation of Vegas 8.0c which I have been using flawlessly for years and copied all the settings and preferences (except internal settings) onto a piece of paper. Then I matched them all up in the Windows 7 installation and the problem still persists. The ends of each clip do not look right. That is with every type of video file including mxf files. I even tried disabling "enable windows xp theme support" and it made no difference.

Do you know anything about "issues with audio", and "issues with plugins" that came up when I searched for Vegas Pro 8 on Windows 7 64-bit? The results weren't very specific.

craftech wrote on 10/9/2017, 3:21 PM

I had to give up. Even if I ignore the odd looking events on the timeline a render crashes before completion with an "Unknown error" message. I moved the entire edited project and Veg. file over to my Windows XP installation and it looked correct and rendered perfectly. I guess I'll not use my Windows 7 computer for Vegas until I "upgrade" to a newer version that works on W7 64-bit.

Musicvid wrote on 10/9/2017, 4:10 PM

Running Pro 8 on Windows 7 64 for several years, no unexplained issues here.

 

craftech wrote on 10/9/2017, 10:38 PM

Running Pro 8 on Windows 7 64 for several years, no unexplained issues here.

I appreciate that, but I cannot figure out what is wrong. Do the events on your timeline look like the ones I posted an image of above with little chopped off lines at the end?? I tried loading other types of video /audio files and they all look like that. Even .mxf

 

John

 

 

Musicvid wrote on 10/10/2017, 4:34 AM

With QTF and Snapping On before importing media, I don't have dangling frames on the timeline. Maybe something is amiss in internal prefs?

Richard Jones wrote on 10/10/2017, 4:56 AM

I vaguely recall that there was a 32/64bit conflict about this time. were you given the option of a 32 or 64bit installation on Pro8 and can you check which one you have? It needs to be the same as the OS (apparently 64 bit in your case).

Richard

Musicvid wrote on 10/10/2017, 5:02 AM

There was a 64 bit version called 8.1 that was a minor dud. 32 bit Vegas 8.0 works better on either OS.

craftech wrote on 10/11/2017, 10:26 AM

With QTF and Snapping On before importing media, I don't have dangling frames on the timeline. Maybe something is amiss in internal prefs?


I had tried that both ways with same result. Internal prefs I A-B compared to my XP installation and they matched, but I could look again and write every single one of them down.

Can I buy Vegas Pro 12 still? I know the download is still available.

 

Update: Just tried uninstalling and reinstalling Vegas Pro 8.0c and now the program crashes when it tries to open. Unable to open the program at all anymore. Maybe I had to uninstall Noise Reduction as well? Or used initial CD version and then update to version c? Guess work at this point.

Musicvid wrote on 10/11/2017, 8:07 PM

Try reinstalling the old .NET first.

Same Vegas version and same OS here, so there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Just use the download version of 8.0c, if it is still available.

craftech wrote on 10/11/2017, 8:17 PM

Thanks. Will try that ASAP. Appreciate the interest.

 

FOLLOW-UP: I used the .Net Framewwork Setup Verification Tool and it verified the .Net framework installations from versions 1.1 all the way up to 4.7 Which "old .NET were you referring to?

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/astebner/2008/10/13/net-framework-setup-verification-tool-users-guide/

 

John

NickHope wrote on 10/11/2017, 9:33 PM
Update: Just tried uninstalling and reinstalling Vegas Pro 8.0c and now the program crashes when it tries to open. Unable to open the program at all anymore. Maybe I had to uninstall Noise Reduction as well? Or used initial CD version and then update to version c? Guess work at this point.

John, if Vegas won't start there are troubleshooting tips here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-vegas-pro-won-t-start-what-can-i-do--104784/ I'm not sure if there's anything in it that does not apply to XP and VP8. I think most of it would apply.

Take particular note of these clean uninstall and reinstall instructions that are linked from that post. The latest version around applies to Windows 7 but probably you could work out how to do this process on XP: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/scs-help-clean-uninstall-and-reinstall-instructions-for-windows-7--105493/

Just use the download version of 8.0c, if it is still available.

http://dl03.magix.net/vegaspro80c.exe

craftech wrote on 10/11/2017, 9:47 PM

Thanks Nick. To be clear, I am trying to get it to work properly on Windows 7 64-bit not XP. I have been successfully using Vegas 8 on my XP Pro computer since 2008 and wanted to start using it on a newer computer I built a year ago.

I completely uninstalled Vegas using your awesome tips. I may wait until tomorrow to reinstall it again. .Net Framework 1.0 doesn't appear to be installed according to the .NET Framework Setup Verification Tool I referenced above. If it is necessary for .Net framework 1.0 to be on my Windows 7 64-bit computer, there is a workaround for W7 64-bit posted here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Install-NET-Framework-10-on-64-bit-Windows/ (seems a little iffy though).

I used the download link for 8.0c you provided and will try that file (although it appears to be the same as the one I tried)

 

John

Musicvid wrote on 10/12/2017, 1:46 PM

Somewhere on this forum it tells which .NET version belongs wit VP8.

vkmast wrote on 10/12/2017, 2:12 PM

https://web.archive.org/web/20160622111020/http://dspcdn.sonycreativesoftware.com:80/releasenotes/vegaspro80c_readme_enu.htm 4.0 System Requirements --- Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0

craftech wrote on 10/12/2017, 3:16 PM

https://web.archive.org/web/20160622111020/http://dspcdn.sonycreativesoftware.com:80/releasenotes/vegaspro80c_readme_enu.htm 4.0 System Requirements --- Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0


Ok Thanks. It says Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 is included on the disc. I think I will reinstall it from the installation disc.

 

John