@Eagle Six With all due respect, given the significant elaborating that @Musicvid has done since his initial post, its now a little easier to assume that thats what he initially meant.
@Former user with all due respect, and risking dragging this off topic over what may very well be our indivisual use of semantics my opinion remains the same. I read @Musicvid reply when he posted it before reading the rest of this thread. It made sense to me then and still does. Before we build something it is often best to visualize the end results before starting with the framework, nonetheless, looking ahead at the finish does not mean we build the roof before we have completed the framing, rather it means anticipating how the framing will effect the roof we desire.
@Eagle Six With all due respect, making analogies of maybe a construction site, buildings, roofs is way off topic. I’m sure it must make sense to you though.
From the get go I have been on topic. The order as queried by the OP was and is important.
For my own part, although I didn’t initially expect to have anything to contribute to this thread, rather maybe learn something. This ... “Are there any PROPER sequence/order when you make a chain of effects in the Vegas OFX window?” piqued my interest.
When, through intentional? ambiguity on @Musicvid 's part (“All ambiquity intended”) it was possible to interpret his meaning as right to left I was curious and researched accordingly. After all if it was right to left it would be significant, since I had always assumed it was left to right.
As ive already posted, it appeared to me that two other posters were also surprised, so I clarified it for myself and any others that might have read it as I did.
@Former user OK, one last post to this, you are the first to have mentioned 'right-to-left' in this thread, everyone was happy with their assumption it was left-to-right, as that is how the chain is built by default. The developers allow users to change the position in the chain because they didn't want to add a huge AI to the program trying to outsmart the end user and offer the flexibility we would expect, nonetheless a default is a clue. BTW @musicvid didn't mention anything about left-to-right, or right-to-left. He doesn't need defending, I was simply pointing out in my opinion there was nothing in his post that was, or is, misleading about the chain. Quite the contrary he added valuable insight. now I'm done. With all due respect you can have the last word.
Well for someone who doesn’t need defending, you and his other “friends” are doing a fullsome job.
Thing is, I have never suggested that @Musicvid was misleading, rather the inherent intentional ambiguity, which he used could lead to believing that it was right to left. After his extensive clarification I see he was always of the opinion that its left to right.
At the end of the day, of course it’s nice to have “friends” that will stay with you through thick and thin whether right or wrong?
Personally, I can stand on my own two feet, and would never encourage my real friends (as against 1's and 0's like here) to support me if I was off side, thats not being a friend.
You do not have permission to attack me, whether or not you understand or agree with my statements. You do not have permission to condemn or dismiss my tests while providing none of your own. You will not deliver personal attacks in any form on this public forum. You parrot the word "friends" four times, yet you forget that I was the one who reached out to you and supported you unquestionably until you bit my hand there, too.
Now I too, am done.
Note to moderators: Having been chosen as a volunteer campaign writer for a national US candidate, my time here is done for now. More than one moderator has mentioned Videohelp. Perhaps if a little more of that mentality were injected into what is going on here, we would benefit at some future point. Until then...
@Musicvid - If you’re still around, and reading this, you’ve helped me on countless occasions. Your experience, as listed in your signature, which I highly recommend should be read by all, indicates your deep understanding of our Craft and longevity in your experiences, has to be a force for good here on this Forum. And your interaction with those searching for solutions has always been straight and on the level will be sorely missed by me and many others.
@Former user ✌️ and 💗 . If I could reach out and give you a hug, I would.
You do not have permission to attack me ... I didn’t, I questioned your (as I saw your statement as right to left assertion)
You do not have permission to condemn or dismiss my tests while providing none of your own ... Wrong, I went to a bit of trouble to find in the Magix pdf manual the correct order.
You will not deliver personal attacks in any form on this public forum ... I made no personal attacks, if I had the moderators would have already stepped in.
You parrot the word "friends" four times, yet you forget that I was the one who reached out to you and supported you unquestionably until you bit my hand there, too.
I have always appreciated your help and input to this forum, however, if you get it wrong as I thought you had then I am entitled to set the record straight. Unfortunately you take this as a personal attack!
Indeed I have even queried moderators, Nick and others if and when appropriate, to the best of my knowlodge they didn't take it as a personal attack, if they did it wasn't.
Now I too, am done ... Funny that, I was half thinking the same until Grazie stepped in with that big hug.
Note to moderators: Having been chosen as a volunteer campaign writer for a national US candidate, my time here is done for now. More than one moderator has mentioned Videohelp. Perhaps if a little more of that mentality were injected into what is going on here, we would benefit at some future point. Until then...
You’re obviously a very important person, we should be indeed grateful for the time and effort you have given us.
FWIW … I’ll explain my own thinking and why and how I came to the conclusions that I did here.
MusicVid ... There is a logical order, starting with what goes last.
I wrestled with this a bit, and came to the conclusion that it might mean that the fx order was right to left.
Then this statement by Dimitrios ... Well I just assumed they take effect from left to right.
And this by Grazie ... Me too
When I saw the statements by Dimitrios and Grazie I read them as querying MusicVid's right to left assertion.
I now changed my opinion from “might mean” to “meaning” because of what I saw as two other users having doubts about MusicVids assertion.
I then set about finding out what it was, I checked the pdf manual first, no search results at all for “order”, then used google to search inet. no definitive result, back to the manual, discovered I had been searching the “keyboard shortcuts” one instead! I found the answer in the main manual.
The above is my take and understanding of what was said, if MusicVid, Grazie or Dimitrios completely disagree with it that's fine, this is simply stating how I came to the conclusions that I did,
This topic is now closed. In future, the users are advised to take #1. "This is a community, not a competition" in the Community rules more into consideration.
While I have the greatest respect for Musicvid and other contributors to this topic, surely the relevant issue is what looks best for you as an editor. Yes, there have been times when I have moved FX left or right to see if there is a difference - sometimes there was an appreciable difference, but mostly there wasn't. The most obvious FX effect that affects the image in its placement on the FX line, IMO, is Levels. As been suggested by an earlier reply, Scopes is very important to setting color levels etc.
I hope that people keep in mind that editing is a craft intended to create emotion in the audience. In general, the audience is unlikely to criticize a production because an FX was placed before another when it academically would have been 5% better the other way round. L-R or R-L - what looks better to you as an editor.