Hello. I noticed that the upscale went from smart upscale to AI upscale. I am wondering what are the full steps to successfully apply this new upscale? Is it simply move the bar or do I have to set up things in the pan/crop. Please let me know. Thanks.
Its purpose is to enlarge the image, so you can try minifying the image using Pan/Crop before applying upscale FX.
So to be clear with the whole steps, I add the upscale fx before the pan/crop fx in the plug chain. I will then adjust the video's dimensions to the target output. The original dimensions of the video is 1536 x 960. Thus, I will change the dimensions to 1728 x 1080 in pan/crop fx in the width and height sections under the Position tab. And then, I render to 1728 x 1080?
Is this how it works? For the upscale fx, what does the vertical slider do and how come I cannot use the horizontal slider?
The Vegas Help is about all we have for now. Yes, it must be applied before Pan/Crop; therefore, it is used only as a Media Fx.
Thank you all for the help.
The Vegas Help is about all we have for now.
What about https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-19-new-feature-descriptions--132372/
The manual 3Point links to has documentation for AI Upscale.
You don't use pan/crop when upscaling. If you need to zoom in on the image, there is a slider in the upscaler that lets you do that. I'm going from memory, which is a bit fuzzy, but if I remember right, adding it as a media effect will upscale it automatically according to whatever your project settings are.... so if you add a 1080p video clip to a 4K project, it will upscale the 1080p clip to 4k. Adding it as a video event effect will let you specify the amount you want to upscale it manually. I may have the order of those backwards, so experiment. The proper way to do it will be in that manual (I wrote with the help of Gary Rebholz, lol, sorry, I have bad memory) that is linked to above. You can select between smooth or sharp upscaling modes, sharp gives the best results but takes longer to process. AI is used to reconstruct the image and fill in the missing pixels, making it superior to the old smart upscale effect, which used much simpler methods to interpolate the missing pixels.
Are there before-after samples which prove the usefulness of this AI upscale?
My own tests are (very) disappointing, because I don't see a difference.
I did some tests with Topaz Video Enhancer which can also clean up footage instead of up scaling. Those cleaned up footage looks much crisper than an upscale with Vegas.
They're still improving upon it, it works better with some footage than with others, but when it does work, the difference is quite good.
They're still improving upon it, it works better with some footage than with others, but when it does work, the difference is quite good.
What kind of footage should I use to see the difference? Can you show some samples where the difference is quite good?
There is an example of DVD->720p with Vegas smart deinterlace and upscale in my signature.
A quite impressive signature, but I can't find the mentioned example in it.
Here: It is labeled thusly:
Highlight Reel 2000 - 2010 (Smart Deinterlace and Upscale from SD 480i to 720p in Vegas Pro 19)
@Musicvid Sorry to say, but that doesn't look impressive at all to me. Ofcourse I don't know how the original interlaced footage looks and it's hard to compare but the deinterlaced and upscaled footage looks like... here a screenshot of what I see:
I would say try Topaz Video Enhance with the original interlaced footage and do a deinterlace video enhance without upscale (clean up old interlaced footage template) and compare.
here a screenshot of what I see:
Those are interlacing artifacts, magnified by, but not caused by Vegas Smart Upscale, which can be used independently of Smart Deinterlace. Here are the results of those tests, since that's what you are interested in comparing. Feel free to draw your own conclusions:
Vegas Smart Adaptive Deinterlace (understandably slow with my Intel graphics)
VideoRedo Smart Deinterlace (which I believe is software only)
Handbrake Decomb, (one of the best in previous tests)
And for the sake of completeness, the venerable EEDI2, which is equally slow, but not better than Vegas Smart Adaptive.
Note: you have to set project properties to Progressive for Vegas' Smart Deinterlace to be active).
I do not advertise Topaz and I also do not want to spend the extra money and the time needed for enhancing old SD/HD videos, despite the good results of Topaz.
Yes I appreciate and are familiar with the good working of the smart deinterlacer of Vegas.
It's only disappointing that I see no difference at all between original and an upscale with Vegas, at least not with my footage. So I was hoping that someone could convince me of the usefulness of this new upscale FX with before and after samples.
Well, you won't get that endorsement from me, for either Topaz (which I trialed), Vegas, or any other software or AI solution at this time.
Unless I'm upscaling last century's showtunes for Youtube, I've always been about hardware solutions, which still look better to me.
That's VEGAS AI Upscale's biggest weakness currently, it doesn't work well with interlaced footage.
The Vegas Help is about all we have for now. Yes, it must be applied before Pan/Crop; therefore, it is used only as a Media Fx.
@Musicvid That screenshot you sent is for the "smart upscale", not the new "upscale" in V20 :(
I'm having a tough time getting my 4:3 interlaced SD video to scale up to 720p and look good... grrrr
@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns ... re
That screenshot you sent is for the "smart upscale", not the new "upscale" in V20
The screenshot was uploaded in early January 2022 when Vegas Pro 19 was the then current VP release. It would be circa 7 months before Vegas Pro 20 was released.