Burned DVD won't play on older DVD player

kimberly-e wrote on 4/20/2022, 9:57 AM

Hi, I burned a DVD with DVD architect and it plays just fine on my newer DVD/Blueray player and my external DVD burner. It won't play on my mother's older DVD player, I'd say her player is maybe 15 years old. Is there different format I should be using to get it to play on an older DVD player? I'm using DVD+R DL disks.

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DMT3 wrote on 4/20/2022, 9:59 AM

not all dvd players can played burned dvds. you can look up the model of the player and see what formats are compatible.

vkmast wrote on 4/20/2022, 10:37 AM

Based on my own experience I would agree with this ancient comment from @Musicvid

Note also the age of "her player".

Musicvid wrote on 4/20/2022, 12:10 PM

Of course I don't remember writing that, but I'll add that burning your DL-DVD-R in DVDShrink with the layer break point exactly at a chapter mark seems to improve the chances of playability.

Of course the stock advice to use Verbatim DL DVD-R and burn at slower than max write speed always applies.

john_dennis wrote on 4/23/2022, 9:38 PM

@vkmast @Musicvid @kimberly-e

Kimberly-e,

Buy the woman who carried you for nine months a new Blu-ray player. Throw in a 65" TV, also.

I burned some +R media many years ago, but also used single layer -R. In spite of the brand preference that I had for Verbatim, I vaguely remember a news report a long time ago that stated there is only one plant left that manufactures DVDs. The plant was owned by CMC which was not high on my list of favorites. I just checked a spindle of Verbatim -R single layer DVDs that I've had for quite a while and here is what I found:

HL-DT-ST BD-RE  GGW-H20L YL07 (SATA)
Current Profile: DVD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 2,297,888
Free Space: 4,706,074,624 bytes
Free Time: 510:40:38 (MM:SS:FF)
Next Writable Address: 0
MID: CMC MAG. AM3
Supported Write Speeds: 8x, 12x, 16x

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG. AM3

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: 0@P-!-00
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,495,103
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 6,876 KB/s (5x) - WS: 11,080 KB/s (8x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 6,876 KB/s (5x) - WS: 16,620 KB/s (12x)
Descriptor 3...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 6,876 KB/s (5x) - WS: 22,160 KB/s (16x)

A Verbatim Dual Layer +R from 2007 (appears to actually be made by Mitsubishi Chemical)

HL-DT-ST BD-RE  GGW-H20L YL07 (SATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 4,138,720
Size: 8,476,098,560 bytes
Time: 919:44:70 (MM:SS:FF)
MID: MKM-001-00
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x

DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,069,360
Changeable: No

TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 4138719)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 4138720)

Disc Control Blocks Information:
PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,265,967

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,265,967

Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 2,069,360 (50%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 2,069,360 (50%)

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4138719 (0x003F26DF)
-> RS: 4,568 KB/s (3.3x) - WS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)

Memorex Dual Layer +R from 2007

HL-DT-ST BD-RE  GGW-H20L YL07 (SATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 1,693,696
Size: 3,468,689,408 bytes
Time: 376:24:46 (MM:SS:FF)
MID: CMC MAG-E01-00
Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x

TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 1693695)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 1693696)

Disc Control Blocks Information:
PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: CMC MAG-E01-00
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1,890,303
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 1693695 (0x0019D7FF)
-> RS: 6,876 KB/s (5x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 1693695 (0x0019D7FF)
-> RS: 6,876 KB/s (5x) - WS: 11,080 KB/s (8x)

Here's a blast from the past:

CompUSA DVD-R Single Layer (2004)

HL-DT-ST BD-RE  GGW-H20L YL07 (SATA)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
State of Last Session: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 1,188,896
Size: 2,434,859,008 bytes
Time: 264:13:71 (MM:SS:FF)
MID: PRINCO
Supported Write Speeds: 2x

TOC Information:
Session 1... (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01  (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 1188895)
-> LeadOut  (LBA: 1188896)

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: PRINCO

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1,385,503
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x02, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 1188895 (0x0012241F)
-> RS: 5,730 KB/s (4.1x) - WS: 2,770 KB/s (2x)

 

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EricLNZ wrote on 4/24/2022, 3:11 AM

Yes, CMC purchased Verbatim from MCC in 2019. Even before then some Verbatim were actually CMC. I have some Verbatim BD-RE (rewritables), made by CMC, which are giving problems after around 30 burns. Yet BR rewritables are supposed to last longer than DVD -RW. But I've Verbatim and Imation DVD-RWs which are 15 plus years old and are still burning after hundreds of burns.